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2023-2024 National Rankings (offseason)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 25, 2024 9:56:46 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline shortstop top 10: 1. Jackson Holliday, Orioles (2024) 2. Colson Montgomery, White Sox (2024) 3. Jordan Lawlar, D-backs (2024) 4. Jackson Merrill, Padres (2024) 5. Marcelo Mayer, Red Sox (2024)
6. Brooks Lee, Twins (2024) 7. Carson Williams, Rays (2025) 8. Adael Amador, Rockies (2025) 9. Cole Young, Mariners (2025) 10. Marco Luciano, Giants (2024) www.mlb.com/news/top-shortstop-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageMy lord this is an awesome list. Who says baseball's dead ?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 25, 2024 10:02:19 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline outfielder prospects top 10: 1. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024) 2. Evan Carter, Rangers (2024) 3. Wyatt Langford, Rangers (2024) 4. Dylan Crews, Nationals (2024) 5. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026) 6. Max Clark, Tigers (2026) 7. James Wood, Nationals (2024) 8. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024) 9. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2024) 10. Roman Anthony, Red Sox (2025) www.mlb.com/news/top-outfield-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage
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Post by yuchangclan on Jan 25, 2024 10:02:37 GMT -5
I remember being afraid the Red Sox were going to get Lawlar in the Mayer draft. Splitting silly hairs I suppose Lawlar has absolutely torn through the minors and figures to open the season as starting SS for the Dbacks. He’s a potential 30/30 type one day and definitely the better prospect as of now. Holliday is on another planet, though. He could quickly establish himself as the best SS in the AL(after Seager).
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Post by nomar on Jan 25, 2024 10:08:58 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline outfielder prospects top 10: 1. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024) 2. Evan Carter, Rangers (2024) 3. Wyatt Langford, Rangers (2024) 4. Dylan Crews, Nationals (2024) 5. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026) 6. Max Clark, Tigers (2026) 7. James Wood, Nationals (2024) 8. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024) 9. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2024) 10. Roman Anthony, Red Sox (2025) www.mlb.com/news/top-outfield-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageWow Cowser above Anthony is egregious IMO. No way Anthony would be 10th on my list there
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Post by incandenza on Jan 25, 2024 10:14:48 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline outfielder prospects top 10: 1. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024) 2. Evan Carter, Rangers (2024) 3. Wyatt Langford, Rangers (2024) 4. Dylan Crews, Nationals (2024) 5. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026) 6. Max Clark, Tigers (2026) 7. James Wood, Nationals (2024) 8. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024) 9. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2024) 10. Roman Anthony, Red Sox (2025) www.mlb.com/news/top-outfield-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageOn each of the lists where our big three show up - Mayer/Teel/Anthony - the Orioles have a prospect ranked higher.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 25, 2024 10:15:34 GMT -5
That OF list is supremely stacked
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 25, 2024 10:39:42 GMT -5
I would have Anthony ranked higher than Wood IMO, Anthony's #s were better in A+ than Wood in roughly the same amount of games at a year younger. Slightly better in AA too but much smaller sample size, the list is rather stacked though so for Anthony to even make the list is great.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 25, 2024 14:33:00 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline outfielder prospects top 10: 1. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024) 2. Evan Carter, Rangers (2024) 3. Wyatt Langford, Rangers (2024) 4. Dylan Crews, Nationals (2024) 5. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026) 6. Max Clark, Tigers (2026) 7. James Wood, Nationals (2024) 8. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024) 9. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2024) 10. Roman Anthony, Red Sox (2025) www.mlb.com/news/top-outfield-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageWow Cowser above Anthony is egregious IMO. No way Anthony would be 10th on my list there They have been consistently higher with Cowser than other outlets (gave him a 60 FV last year, I believe).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 25, 2024 14:50:16 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline outfielder prospects top 10: 1. Jackson Chourio, Brewers (2024) 2. Evan Carter, Rangers (2024) 3. Wyatt Langford, Rangers (2024) 4. Dylan Crews, Nationals (2024) 5. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026) 6. Max Clark, Tigers (2026) 7. James Wood, Nationals (2024) 8. Pete Crow-Armstrong, Cubs (2024) 9. Colton Cowser, Orioles (2024) 10. Roman Anthony, Red Sox (2025) www.mlb.com/news/top-outfield-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageOn each of the lists where our big three show up - Mayer/Teel/Anthony - the Orioles have a prospect ranked higher. I mean, that's why they're probably the best system in the game and at least top 3. To have consecutive ROYs and the top prospect is impressive.
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Jan 26, 2024 19:35:56 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline announced their Top 100 tonight.
15. Mayer 24. Anthony 40. Teel 76. Rafaela
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Post by bosoxnation on Jan 27, 2024 4:19:05 GMT -5
Am I the only person who think Anthony is Kyle Tucker 2.0?
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Post by adamgregory on Jan 28, 2024 12:44:56 GMT -5
Am I the only person who think Anthony is Kyle Tucker 2.0? Although Tucker would be a pretty great outcome; I think Tucker is a bit taller, and I think Tucker consistently had lower averages throughout the minors (probably too soon to peg Anthony at this stage, but I’m optimistically hoping he’s a slightly better contact hitter).
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Post by pappyman99 on Jan 28, 2024 15:10:52 GMT -5
I think he is more like Springer than Tucker
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Post by orion09 on Jan 29, 2024 7:55:02 GMT -5
Tucker has averaged 4.8 fWAR over the last three seasons… I for one would be beyond thrilled with that outcome.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 29, 2024 19:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jan 29, 2024 20:50:13 GMT -5
Am I the only person who think Anthony is Kyle Tucker 2.0? Cody Bellinger
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Post by cdj on Jan 29, 2024 21:28:19 GMT -5
Stan Musial
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 31, 2024 8:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 31, 2024 8:21:39 GMT -5
It doesn't change my thoughts on the trajectory of the farm and the future of the big 3 prospects in it right now but it is kind of bumming me out to see Anthony & Mayer in the 20s and not the 10s or above on most if not from the prospect rankers.
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Post by nomar on Jan 31, 2024 9:38:40 GMT -5
Found the only person in the world who would take Winn or Luciano over Anthony or Mayer. The write ups are still good for both and he says Mayer’s tools are better than Montgomery who is top 10 on this list. The rankings based on what he’s saying seem too low IMO, but oh well.
Kiley listed almost every first rounder from last years draft. His list feels lazy, or maybe a bit too high on what is unproven vs what is for me.
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Post by 0ap0 on Jan 31, 2024 10:22:08 GMT -5
I don't have the bandwidth to follow other teams' prospects. In the abstract, I like to think of numbers like this as indicating that most other farm systems have a better top prospect than we do, but almost none should have a better #2 and not many are likely to have a better #3.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Jan 31, 2024 11:43:14 GMT -5
So apparently the Sox have been relying too much on Hamiltons when they should have focusing on the Jacksons.
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Post by okin15 on Jan 31, 2024 16:56:24 GMT -5
So apparently the Sox have been relying too much on Hamiltons when they should have focusing on the Jacksons. Numbers ten and twelve as well go to Jacksons... wild. On a more substantive note, it feels a little like Mayer's pedigree is being held against him: "This analysis is a bit critical because his production/position/age combination is still excellent, but expectations are that Mayer would be a top 10 prospect at this point and he hasn't quite put it all together for an extended period."
That said, many of the guys above him have debuted in the bigs or are younger... Mayer could rocket right back up the lists if he produces out of the gate and shows that the injury a) was the issue and b) is behind him
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Jan 31, 2024 21:25:38 GMT -5
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Post by bishop on Feb 1, 2024 13:16:55 GMT -5
So apparently the Sox have been relying too much on Hamiltons when they should have focusing on the Jacksons. Numbers ten and twelve as well go to Jacksons... wild. On a more substantive note, it feels a little like Mayer's pedigree is being held against him: "This analysis is a bit critical because his production/position/age combination is still excellent, but expectations are that Mayer would be a top 10 prospect at this point and he hasn't quite put it all together for an extended period."
That said, many of the guys above him have debuted in the bigs or are younger... Mayer could rocket right back up the lists if he produces out of the gate and shows that the injury a) was the issue and b) is behind him
Mayer had a terrible half season of hitting. I think he's still largely getting the benefit of the doubt that was mostly tied to injury, but it still happened and there are whispers he MAY be struggling some with breaking stuff lower in the zone so I can see why outlets are sliding some guys who performed at an elite level or will debut in the majors ahead of him. Half those guys above him should be off these lists by midseason anyways, that plus like Okin said good performance at AA could (should?) rocket him back into the top 10.
Anthony is still a helium guy, I believe it's real due to the underlying metrics, but we're talking about a guy without an elite amateur pedigree who I don't think was in any top 100 lists before like June when the numbers started popping off the page and catching up to what the metrics had been saying, pretty understandable to me they aren't quite willing to jump him all the way into the top 10 or something like that. I also get the sense the national guys treat him more as a future RF rather than someone who might very well be good enough to play CF solidly, but I doubt they focused on him as much as the elite guys in his HS class and then it's only been a couple months since he broke out so limited chances for those guys to see him live in the field once he became this notable a hitting prospect.
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