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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 16, 2024 11:23:52 GMT -5
Any sign of Noah Song at camp? Minor league camp hasn't started yet so no.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Feb 16, 2024 11:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Feb 16, 2024 15:23:27 GMT -5
www.mlb.com/redsox/news/brayan-bello-pedro-martinez-pitching-adviceAn Ian Brown article on MLB.com talking about how Pedro helped Bello over the offseason. Apparently the focus was on Bello’s slider. “ The 24-year-old Bello, perhaps the most talented member of Boston’s young starting rotation, felt instant improvement after Martinez’s tutelage.”RDLR was Pedro’s last binky if memory serves. Not a ton of long term success there, but let’s hope for a “wicked slidah” from Brayan Bello this year. I’d like to see him throw the nasty curveball he threw twice in 2022 and then shelved.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 16, 2024 16:34:53 GMT -5
Cora during his press conference pretty much said Pivetta is in the rotation and not part of the competition with Whitlock/Houck/Crawford
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 16, 2024 16:39:10 GMT -5
Cora during his press conference pretty much said Pivetta is in the rotation and not part of the competition with Whitlock/Houck/Crawford Makes sense, Bello/Giolito/Pivetta with Crawford/Whitlock/Houck/Winckowski battling for 4/5 slot. I would personally hope that Crawford has the inside shot at the #4 as he was a solid SP last year and seems like the best bet to be so again but I get keeping it open.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 16, 2024 18:55:54 GMT -5
He's already said earlier this offseason it was Bello, Giolito, Pivetta, Crawford plus a competition, right?
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Post by asm18 on Feb 16, 2024 23:08:14 GMT -5
www.mlb.com/redsox/news/brayan-bello-pedro-martinez-pitching-adviceAn Ian Brown article on MLB.com talking about how Pedro helped Bello over the offseason. Apparently the focus was on Bello’s slider. “ The 24-year-old Bello, perhaps the most talented member of Boston’s young starting rotation, felt instant improvement after Martinez’s tutelage.”RDLR was Pedro’s last binky if memory serves. Not a ton of long term success there, but let’s hope for a “wicked slidah” from Brayan Bello this year. I’d like to see him throw the nasty curveball he threw twice in 2022 and then shelved. My recollection is Bello worked on a curve last off-season… and then he got temporarily shut down last spring due to “forearm tightness” after a bullpen in which he used a lot of breaking balls: www.masslive.com/redsox/2023/02/red-soxs-brayan-bello-provides-up-date-on-his-forearm.html?outputType=ampIt doesn’t appear he’s thrown a curve since 🤷♂️
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Post by 0ap0 on Feb 17, 2024 8:40:14 GMT -5
If it hurts to throw that's a smart move
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Post by wOBA Fett on Feb 17, 2024 11:17:26 GMT -5
Great start so far
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 17, 2024 11:47:31 GMT -5
Thomase is a hack and take anything he says with a grain of salt
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2024 12:40:43 GMT -5
Thomase is a hack and take anything he says with a grain of salt He didn't say anything that was inaccurate. Just because you dont like it when ownership gets criticized doesn't mean that given their situation that they should be immune to criticism. The Red Sox have been bad 3 of the last 4 years and don't look markedly better in 2024 and appear to be holding off on any big impactful moves until the Big 3 are ready which could be another year or two. What do you really expect people to say?
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 17, 2024 12:43:11 GMT -5
Thomase is a hack and take anything he says with a grain of salt He didn't say anything that was inaccurate. Just because you dont like it when ownership gets criticized doesn't mean that given their situation that they should be immune to criticism. The Red Sox have been bad 3 of the last 4 years and don't look markedly better in 2024 and appear to be holding off on any big impactful moves until the Big 3 are ready which could be another year or two. What do you really expect people to say? Its thomas. If he said it was sunny outside i wouldn’t trust him and would go verify myself. He has a long track record of journalism malpractice. So pardon me if i dont trust him.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2024 13:00:37 GMT -5
He didn't say anything that was inaccurate. Just because you dont like it when ownership gets criticized doesn't mean that given their situation that they should be immune to criticism. The Red Sox have been bad 3 of the last 4 years and don't look markedly better in 2024 and appear to be holding off on any big impactful moves until the Big 3 are ready which could be another year or two. What do you really expect people to say? Its thomas. If he said it was sunny outside i wouldn’t trust him and would go verify myself. He has a long track record of journalism malpractice. So pardon me if i dont trust him. He screwed up on the Patriots (badly) many years ago. What other issues are there?
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 17, 2024 13:30:47 GMT -5
Thomase is a hack and take anything he says with a grain of salt Tomase is garabge as a reporter but he's not saying anything that we don't already know. They didn't do much and will be in last again. I liked the trades they made but none of those help this team in 2024. Bloom and Breslow are both victims of JWH's lack of focus on this team.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 17, 2024 13:35:33 GMT -5
Let’s move on from talking about Tomase, please.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2024 13:44:17 GMT -5
He didn't say anything that was inaccurate. Just because you dont like it when ownership gets criticized doesn't mean that given their situation that they should be immune to criticism. The Red Sox have been bad 3 of the last 4 years and don't look markedly better in 2024 and appear to be holding off on any big impactful moves until the Big 3 are ready which could be another year or two. What do you really expect people to say? ‘What do you really expect people to say?’ They really do not need to state the obvious. The Red Sox have been bad, and they have not done much this offseason. News flash! Every Red Sox fans know this already. Thomase has been a complete hack, a$$hole for years! I would ignore everything he says as either obvious or inaccurate….meaning nothing he says has any insight or worth. Reading or watching him is a waste of time. I'd give you a response but the moderator made his position clear so I will respect that.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Feb 17, 2024 15:14:52 GMT -5
Pitching analytics is analyticing
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 18, 2024 11:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by semperfisox on Feb 18, 2024 13:40:06 GMT -5
Since were operating like the Rockies, any extension is going to be too much.
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Post by briam on Feb 18, 2024 16:58:54 GMT -5
”Nothing enticing” is about to become the next “full throttle”, isn’t it? I imagine Casas is the type of confident that he wouldn’t mind playing out to FA.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 18, 2024 17:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 18, 2024 17:09:38 GMT -5
Don't think Casas is going to get a big offer. The prize is his age 29+ free agent seasons. Median outcome for those years is looking like maybe 2 WAR flat. Red Sox need to be getting a good deal on those seasons to make up for turning 5 years of team options into guaranteed money. Guaranteeing a typical arb pay out + getting a bit of a bargain on 2 WAR seasons doesn't add up to much.
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Post by itinerantherb on Feb 18, 2024 17:17:33 GMT -5
”Nothing enticing” is about to become the next “full throttle”, isn’t it? I imagine Casas is the type of confident that he wouldn’t mind playing out to FA. The full article at The Athletic provides a nice glimpse into the kinds of risk assessments that many young professional athletes are making when the weigh extension offers, and just how much personal and family wealth informs those assessments. I found this particularly interesting: “Obviously I’m really curious about it,” [Casas] said of contract negotiations. “I hear about it from other outlets in the league. It seems enticing, but it’s really nothing that I need. Thankfully, my family’s well off. I have money from generations. So yeah, anything that they’d be giving me is something that I wouldn’t be needing anyway. So that’s why it just makes my job so easy, clear-headed to just come out and play the game that I need to, that I have no pressure to try to make money or need any more than I have.” The candor is at once refreshing, revealing, and a bit jarring. In short, "because my family is wealthy, I don't need to jump at the first offer of lifetime security, because even if I flame out or get injured, ultimately my family and I are fine." Needless to say, a player who comes from a less comfortable background and who may even hold in his hands not only his own future financial security but also that of his entire extended family, is likely to look at an extension offer very differently. This isn't at all intended as a knock at Casas. I admire his candor, and I'd probably be thinking in similar terms if I were in his position. But it does remind us that a whole host of contract preferences--whether to sign an extension, whether to take the larger multi-year guarantee versus the one-year pillow contract, whether to trade total contract value for an opt-out--are not simply about a player's self-confidence or willingness to "bet on himself." Here's the link: theathletic.com/5284216/2024/02/18/red-sox-trison-casas-contract-extension/
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 18, 2024 17:23:14 GMT -5
Don't think Casas is going to get a big offer. The prize is his age 29+ free agent seasons. Median outcome for those years is looking like maybe 2 WAR flat. Red Sox need to be getting a good deal on those seasons to make up for turning 5 years of team options into guaranteed money. Guaranteeing a typical arb pay out + getting a bit of a bargain on 2 WAR seasons doesn't add up to much. The thought of letting this guy leave in 5 years is terrifying.
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Post by puzzler on Feb 18, 2024 17:36:12 GMT -5
Don't think Casas is going to get a big offer. The prize is his age 29+ free agent seasons. Median outcome for those years is looking like maybe 2 WAR flat. Red Sox need to be getting a good deal on those seasons to make up for turning 5 years of team options into guaranteed money. Guaranteeing a typical arb pay out + getting a bit of a bargain on 2 WAR seasons doesn't add up to much. I don't know what the deal looks like money wise, but I'd give a really long term deal - one that starts in 2025 that gives him a solid bump on the option years, gives him 2-3 years of market rate for a top 5 first baseman and then includes another 3-4 years on the back end that's fairly team friendly (where he can be a DH and it's no big deal). Minimum 10 year deal, maybe up to 12 years. Throw in some team options at the end if you want, no opt outs. He says he wants to be a Red Sox forever, give him that chance. Don't sweat the financials too much; let this be a goodwill deal for Triston and the fan base.
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