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Post by tjb21 on Jan 3, 2024 17:23:34 GMT -5
You can offer a QO to a player that declines a player option. Carlos Rodon last year was one example This is my thinking too. I don’t see how his contract could be structured in a way where he couldn’t be offered a QO.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 3, 2024 17:40:31 GMT -5
I think it's as simple as number of years.
My bet is we're giving the terminology more thought than anyone involved did.
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Post by bluechip on Jan 3, 2024 18:16:36 GMT -5
Is there a difference between a 1 year contract with player option and a 2 year contract with opt out? Unless there are luxury tax implications, from the team prospective there is no difference.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 4, 2024 0:37:11 GMT -5
The term "opt-out" was coined by the NY press when A-Rod's first player option came up. It was much more dramatic to emphasize that he could OPT OUT of his deal if he thought he could do better on the open market, leaving the team in the lurch, rather than "exercising his player option" to accept the remaining terms. Player options were relatively uncommon to that point and the next big one was CC Sabathia, also with MFY, so of course the NY media continued to refer to it the same way and it became entrenched in the baseball vocabulary. A club option could just as easily use the same terminology -- the Red Sox opted out of their remaining obligation to Joely Rodriguez in November -- but it's not as dramatic with Joely Rodriguez (and the dozens of fringy pitchers whose club options are declined) as it is with Alex Rodriguez.
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Post by taiwansox on Jan 5, 2024 1:31:41 GMT -5
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Post by okin15 on Jan 5, 2024 14:21:54 GMT -5
The term "opt-out" was coined by the NY press when A-Rod's first player option came up. It was much more dramatic to emphasize that he could OPT OUT of his deal if he thought he could do better on the open market, leaving the team in the lurch, rather than "exercising his player option" to accept the remaining terms. Player options were relatively uncommon to that point and the next big one was CC Sabathia, also with MFY, so of course the NY media continued to refer to it the same way and it became entrenched in the baseball vocabulary. A club option could just as easily use the same terminology -- the Red Sox opted out of their remaining obligation to Joely Rodriguez in November -- but it's not as dramatic with Joely Rodriguez (and the dozens of fringy pitchers whose club options are declined) as it is with Alex Rodriguez. In my mind, the differentiation should be whether the option is for one or more years at a time. If it's for one year at a time, it should be called an option, but if it's an option for a multi-year chunk, then it's more like an opt-out... I understand that in the end, they're still kinda the same thing, and also that my beef is with the media who call it whatever they want to in order to stir up drama.
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