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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 30, 2023 14:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Dec 30, 2023 14:11:02 GMT -5
Whooooooaaaaaaaa.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 30, 2023 14:11:29 GMT -5
I don't really like this move to be honest.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Dec 30, 2023 14:12:11 GMT -5
I like this in theory, love it if it is the first step to bringing Montgomery in.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 30, 2023 14:12:58 GMT -5
Guess on the brightside there's the 2nd baseman they needed.
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Post by briam on Dec 30, 2023 14:14:09 GMT -5
Grissom was horrendous in Atlanta last year but has some promise to be the future at 2B/OF. Seems like a utility type. Just think everybody was over Sale in Boston.
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 30, 2023 14:15:44 GMT -5
Vaughn Grissom is a pretty serious hitting prospect. 22 years old for a few more days, career 107 wRC+ in the majors, 107 wRC+ projection.
The way Braves fans talk about his run at SS in 2023 that lost him his job, it was the worst anyone has ever played the position. So I have no idea what position he can actually play.
I'm old enough to remember when Breslow kept talking about the 2B acquisition needing to be a great defender.
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Post by manfred on Dec 30, 2023 14:15:56 GMT -5
Breslow has now erased the biggest mistake of his two predecessors. Interesting.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 30, 2023 14:16:23 GMT -5
I'm curious how much sox are paying. I didn't feel like his contract was a negative value at this point.
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Post by cdj on Dec 30, 2023 14:16:29 GMT -5
Holy wowzers
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Post by nomar on Dec 30, 2023 14:17:07 GMT -5
I think this move makes sense long term. I’d expect a Montgomery signing now too, but it’s good to add talented young players to the org so I’m all for it. Hopefully he can make it work at 2B. Feels like they have to try him out there this year now.
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Post by vokuhila on Dec 30, 2023 14:17:13 GMT -5
I get the move from a value standpoint...but...what about the rotation?!?!?!
This looks like building for the future...
Damn man...Sale gone...
Edit: So are Mayer/York on the block for young starter?!?!
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Post by scottysmalls on Dec 30, 2023 14:18:00 GMT -5
Grissom is an interesting guy for 2B, projects as about average now but controlled for a while and upside especially if they can get his defense to averageish there.
Losing Sale takes a big amount of upside out of the rotation but if they use the money for Montgomery or Snell I’m okay with it. Also leaves room for a third pitcher acquisition if they want to bring in Paxton or even Imanaga also.
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 30, 2023 14:20:59 GMT -5
I'm curious how much sox are paying. I didn't feel like his contract was a negative value at this point. 1/27.5 (less because of deferrals) with a 20 million club option. I think it's in the ballpark of neutral value. Overpaid this year a bit, but the option has the potential to be good value. |
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Post by briam on Dec 30, 2023 14:22:38 GMT -5
I’d assume Yorke is traded in the next week with a controllable outfielder to upgrade the rotation.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Dec 30, 2023 14:22:48 GMT -5
And people doubted me for thinking that a SP could get traded after we signed Giolito smh. I have bad takes every once in a while but that wasn’t one. However I did not expect Sale would be on his way out.
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Post by Addam603 on Dec 30, 2023 14:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by scottysmalls on Dec 30, 2023 14:23:08 GMT -5
Cotillo says Red Sox are paying “a good amount” of the deal. Hoping for $10m+ of salary relief here
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 30, 2023 14:23:46 GMT -5
Honestly I like this. Grissom is a legit hitter. Defensively he's not great. Still an upgrade at 2nd.
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 30, 2023 14:24:11 GMT -5
Sale has $10 million deferred, I bet the Sox are eating all the money owed to him this year. Braves are a Diamond Sports team in financial trouble
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Post by scottysmalls on Dec 30, 2023 14:24:24 GMT -5
Cotillo says Red Sox are paying “a good amount” of the deal. Hoping for $10m+ of salary relief here Edit: Okay 8.6m it is then |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 30, 2023 14:24:39 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Dec 30, 2023 14:24:43 GMT -5
-7 OAA in 168 inning at SS, -6 OAA in 368 innings at 2B.
Decent bat, but doesn’t really have a position - he seems like a fungible 1-1.5 WAR type guy.
Red Sox shouldn’t need to dump salary, and Chris Sale, if healthy (yes, that’s a big if), still has more upside than just about anyone else on the Sox not named Bello.
I don’t really get it.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 30, 2023 14:25:04 GMT -5
After reading they had to send 17M with Sale for Grissom who the braves have seemingly soured on I don't like the deal at all.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Dec 30, 2023 14:25:32 GMT -5
Could Grissom be headed elsewhere? For Luzardo? Gilbert?
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