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Post by nomar on Jun 7, 2013 17:24:57 GMT -5
#PrayForTellez
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Post by awokennightmare on Jun 7, 2013 17:25:43 GMT -5
I was really hoping for some position players to watch when Lowell plays in Vermont this summer. I'm hoping to see some on day 2.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 17:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 7, 2013 17:26:26 GMT -5
Grover is in the coffer.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jun 7, 2013 17:28:27 GMT -5
If they really want to make the MLB draft exciting and marketable they need to change the system. It's boring as hell knowing that they stop drafting exciting player in round 5.
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Post by awokennightmare on Jun 7, 2013 17:30:24 GMT -5
Wow. Blue Jays had drafted all pitchers before the 10th round! Thats crazy!
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 17:30:24 GMT -5
Last year from Rounds 11-16 the Red Sox took some legitimate prospects:
Jamal Martin Dylan Chavez Carson Fullmer Stephen Williams
I expect them to do the same thing and try to get 1-2 of them to time. I think Yastrzemski will be one of the guys.
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 7, 2013 17:34:51 GMT -5
I know this system theoretically is designed to even things out between the rich teams and the rest, but, really, are there any poor teams anymore? I think it is designed more to protect the owners from themselves, to do some price-fixing so the players who really would command a lot more money can't get it. In any case, in execution it just seems a little ridiculous. The didn't implement this system for competitive balance. By 2010, most teams had wizened up and realized it was much more cost effective to spend money in the draft than in free agency and had started grabbing the tough signs. They did this because Bud Selig wanted to cut costs league wide at the expense of draftees who are not protected by the players union.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 17:36:53 GMT -5
Absolutely can't complain about today. Ended up drafting the best available player heading into today and legit 1st round talent. I am also really intrigued by Myles Smith.
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Post by awokennightmare on Jun 7, 2013 17:39:56 GMT -5
I do miss the old days when every pick mattered. I guess this is just the way the draft is now.
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Post by danr on Jun 7, 2013 17:44:55 GMT -5
I know this system theoretically is designed to even things out between the rich teams and the rest, but, really, are there any poor teams anymore? I think it is designed more to protect the owners from themselves, to do some price-fixing so the players who really would command a lot more money can't get it. In any case, in execution it just seems a little ridiculous. The didn't implement this system for competitive balance. By 2010, most teams had wizened up and realized it was much more cost effective to spend money in the draft than in free agency and had started grabbing the tough signs. They did this because Bud Selig wanted to cut costs league wide at the expense of draftees who are not protected by the players union. Teams just can't control themselves and the free market is so unpredictable it's nice to have things fixed. Just like real business.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 7, 2013 17:50:18 GMT -5
Settle down people, rounds 11-15 should be fun for us. We freed up quite a bit of $ in rounds 5-10.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 17:53:34 GMT -5
I also wouldn't be surprised if the Red Sox take a couple two sport stars like they did last year.. They can pay them and hold their rights if football career doesn't work out.
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Post by azblue on Jun 7, 2013 17:56:30 GMT -5
Wow. Blue Jays had drafted all pitchers before the 10th round! Thats crazy! If a team feels good about depth in, say, position players, but is very concerned about pitching quality in their organization, why not go whole hog regarding drafting pitchers in one draft? You will have a much better group of incoming pitchers than you would if you balanced your selections. It is also possible that, sticking to the "best available player," the Blue Jays had a pitcher at the top of their board each time their pick came around. Maybe that approach was taken and/or Toronto used a strategy similar to that employed by the Red Sox last year (and this year?) regarding rounds 6-10.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jun 7, 2013 17:57:54 GMT -5
Man the Cubbies took 9 college players in 10 picks. Theo, Jed, and co seem to be taking a similar tack that the Sox seemed to early in Theo's tenure. Took college players that were closer to contributing early, then once the system had talent started taking chances on high upside.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 7, 2013 18:01:41 GMT -5
I'm in. What do you think it takes to sign him? Over or under a mill?
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 7, 2013 18:13:46 GMT -5
Im hoping Clarkin hates the yankees enough to go to college and pull a Gerrit Cole.
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Post by danr on Jun 7, 2013 18:21:52 GMT -5
Wow. Blue Jays had drafted all pitchers before the 10th round! Thats crazy! If a team feels good about depth in, say, position players, but is very concerned about pitching quality in their organization, why not go whole hog regarding drafting pitchers in one draft? You will have a much better group of incoming pitchers than you would if you balanced your selections. It is also possible that, sticking to the "best available player," the Blue Jays had a pitcher at the top of their board each time their pick came around. Maybe that approach was taken and/or Toronto used a strategy similar to that employed by the Red Sox last year (and this year?) regarding rounds 6-10. You still have to have some decent players around the pitchers. It's got to be pretty discouraging to be a pitcher on the Greenville team, for example. And unless the Sox get some decent position players in the next few rounds, there will be another year or two of that.
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Post by taftreign on Jun 7, 2013 18:31:48 GMT -5
By my calculations, the Red Sox have saved approximately $800,000-850,000 by taking easy signs in picks 6-10. Hopefully a large chunk of that is being saved for a sign-ability guy in round 11. We can only hope. I would like to think that we will have a better draft than last year's apparent debacle. Our lower minor teams are terrible and seem bereft of prospects so far. To me Webster, De la Rosa, Barnes, Owens and Workman are less than sure things. Ranaudo is partially resurrected. Position players Bradley and Bogaerts will play and perhaps to a lesser extent Brentz. Hope our coffers are full. Papi will likely be done after next year and we will need reinforcements. HELP! Depends what you consider lower minors. Salem has some solid talent in High A with Cecchini, Swihart, Marrerro, Coyle, Jacobs, De La Cruz and Henry Ramos. Not that they are all top prospects like Cecchini and Swihart but there is some talent in those other players that can still develop over the next 2 seasons. In Greenville I like Mookie Betts and Cody Koback. Although he's struggled this season there's a little potential in Jose Vinicio. Lowell will have Tzu Wei Lin and Manuel Margot. Williams Jerez is of note but he needs to take a step forward this season offensively and I like Mike Meyers potential. In other leagues there is Wendall Rijo, Alixon Suarez, and Victor Acosta as some of the players who could develop. Many of the DSL guys are 17 years old so there is still projection. Its not like many of us knew who Xander Bogaerts was 4 years ago when he was signed. Not saying by any means these guys are going to be major leaguers but there are a few on this list that will develop. Its not normal to have 4 or 5 potential big league hitters on one squad in the minors. The low level minor league guys are generally just HS or international signs and you only get 4 or 5 at most each year. If you have a 2 potential big league bats at each level you should consider yourself doing alright.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 18:39:28 GMT -5
Just noticed Perfect Game had Taylor Grover the #3 College Prospect in the state of South Carolina.. I bought a subscription to PG earlier this year and don't use it enough.. phenominal databases.
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Post by taftreign on Jun 7, 2013 18:43:43 GMT -5
Whoever Boston takes in the next few picks tomorrow they need to sign. If they had signed Bregmann and Fulmer or at least one of those it could have potentially been the redeeming factor last season.
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Post by arzjake on Jun 7, 2013 18:45:55 GMT -5
Maybe we can get back 1.3 million from KVitek and allocate the money towards a legit prospect?
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Post by mjammz on Jun 7, 2013 18:51:47 GMT -5
Just did some very rough calculations and depending on how much we save on Stankiewicz.. I have the Red Sox projected to have an extra 500,000 - 725,000 dollars to spend on picks tommorrow.
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Post by pistowie on Jun 7, 2013 19:11:33 GMT -5
I also wouldn't be surprised if the Red Sox take a couple two sport stars like they did last year.. They can pay them and hold their rights if football career doesn't work out. How many player's baseball careers have panned out after there football ones didn't?
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Post by soxfn24 on Jun 7, 2013 19:23:34 GMT -5
Don't think this was posted earlier, but former Sox draftees picked so far:
Cody Stubbs, 1B, UNC, 29th round pick, (2009) went at #234 (Rd. 8) to the Royals. Dan Slania, RHP, Notre Dame, 42nd round pick (2010) went at #162 (Rd. 5) to the Giants Hunter Renfroe, C, Mississippi State, 31st round pick (2010) went at #13 (Rd. 1) to the Padres Dillon Overton, LHP, Oklahoma, 26th round pick (2010) went at #63 (Rd. 2) to the A's Samuel Wolff, SS, New Mexico, 47th round pick (2011) went at #190 (Rd. 6) to the Rangers
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