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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 14:51:41 GMT -5
Can't wait until Mortensen and Morales (too wild) are off the team.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 14:52:39 GMT -5
Awful situational hitting so far. Through three innings, six left on base, included four in scoring position. Already squandered first and second with no outs (3rd inning), first and second with one out (2nd inning), and second and third with one out (1st inning). Far be it from me to say much of anything negative about Pedroia, but that inning ending GIDP in the 6th was a game changer. He absolutely smoked that ball. Unfortunately, it was right at Aybar. It's not like he pulled a Salty and hit an infield fly on the very first pitch of the AB.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 8, 2013 14:52:50 GMT -5
Doubleheader or not, you don't leave a reliever out there to embarrass himself and give up 3 runs (possibly more) on 2 hits and 4(!) walks. This was a one run game before the inning began. Completely agree. Just poor managing of what was a winnable game. Now presumably you're also going into the next game with a substandard line-up that will likely include Ciriaco and exclude Ellsbury and Carp. And you squander a decent start by Doubront and now will likely offer your own starter this evening statistically less opportunity for run support in his own efforts. Outfuckingstanding.
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Post by jmei on Jun 8, 2013 14:53:31 GMT -5
OK, they left a lot of men on base and should've been up 4-0 in the 2nd but the Manager just lost this game for them. Now guess what, John - you have to use that next pitcher anyway. So why didn't you do it before this guy gave up 3 runs. Sheesh. ADDED: OK, I know it's a tough economy and I hate to see anyone lose their job but Mortensen should've been DFA'd after the Texas series. I mean really, the phrase is "relief pitcher." What really started it was the IBB to Pujols. Yeah, he's probably HoF-bound, but he's hitting poorly this year and the guys hitting after him were all right-handed as well and hitting much better (Pujols: .308 wOBA, Trumbo: .368, Kendrick: .356). Should have taken his chances with Pujols.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 8, 2013 14:53:59 GMT -5
OK, they left a lot of men on base and should've been up 4-0 in the 2nd but the Manager just lost this game for them. Now guess what, John - you have to use that next pitcher anyway. So why didn't you do it before this guy gave up 3 runs. Sheesh. ADDED: OK, I know it's a tough economy and I hate to see anyone lose their job but Mortensen should've been DFA'd after the Texas series. I mean really, the phrase is "relief pitcher." Yup. Gotta think you free a 40-man spot and bring Alex Wilson up. Cause if that's Wilson in that inning, we still have a close game.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 8, 2013 15:24:00 GMT -5
Mismanagement got to be serious, Mr Farrell.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 8, 2013 15:27:48 GMT -5
the BP missmangement this game wont matter one freeking bit, if we squander a village every inning
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 15:32:53 GMT -5
When Mortensen is in the game, you know Farrell is waving the white flag.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 8, 2013 15:39:35 GMT -5
So then why is he bringing Miller in here? WTF!? Help me here - is LAA's closer worse than their starter? Cause that's the only way Sox will pull 5 runs across the plate in the 9th. Hey John! NOW you manage for the second game. Seriously, w-t-f?
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 8, 2013 15:39:57 GMT -5
Why do you put your best lefty on the mound when you give up the game ?
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Post by jmei on Jun 8, 2013 15:41:41 GMT -5
I don't disagree with your point, but it amuses me that Miller is the now the best lefty in the bullpen whereas he was persona non grata just a few weeks ago.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 8, 2013 15:45:04 GMT -5
It amuses me that in April everyone thought this could be the best bullpen in the AL.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 8, 2013 15:46:35 GMT -5
It amuses me that in April everyone thought this could be the best bullpen in the AL. In fairness, Bailey/Koji/Tazawa/Breslow are a terrific top 4. Throw Wilson in there as a solid MRP/LRP, and Miller's occasional flashes of brilliance, and it's still a solid pen. We've seen the 3 most unreliable guys today, so it's certainly not a great day to judge the aptitude of the pen. Napoli showing the type of defense today that many were concerned about coming into the season...
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 8, 2013 15:50:47 GMT -5
I still believe this is a very good bullpen. But mismanagement is very serious. It's the worst I've ever seen with this caliber of good arms.
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Post by pasadenasox on Jun 8, 2013 15:53:08 GMT -5
Just a brutal game, makes me glad that there's a second chance today.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 16:00:22 GMT -5
This is a game we would of won if Farrell wasn't incompetent when it comes to bullpen management.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 8, 2013 16:03:53 GMT -5
Meanwhile, in the last 5 games, Jose Iglesias has become the Cuban God of Walks.
Kevin Youkilis, Michael Lewis - you've both been warned.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 8, 2013 16:04:09 GMT -5
Well, at least this bottom of the 9th has been pretty fun. The Angels have their closer coming into a save situation. Who would've thought? Funny, this game felt like a blowout, yet we're outhitting them 14-12. Ridiculous run-scoring walks will do that.
But, yeah, Farrell's bullpen management was mind boggling today.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 8, 2013 16:04:15 GMT -5
This is a game we would of won if Farrell wasn't incompetent when it comes to bullpen management. NO. This is a game we would have won , if we didn't leave a village on base in every other inning then this one.....
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 8, 2013 16:05:01 GMT -5
Well, at least this bottom of the 9th has been pretty fun. The Angels have their closer coming into a save situation. Who would've thought? Funny, this game felt like a blowout, yet we're outhitting them 14-12. Ridiculous run-scoring walks will do that. But, yeah, Farrell's bullpen management was mind boggling today. and our lack of scoring a run and squandering runners every inning today Im gussing if we didn't go 1-13 with RISP JF manages the BP differently
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 16:07:22 GMT -5
Well, at least this bottom of the 9th has been pretty fun. The Angels have their closer coming into a save situation. Who would've thought? Funny, this game felt like a blowout, yet we're outhitting them 14-12. Ridiculous run-scoring walks will do that. But, yeah, Farrell's bullpen management was mind boggling today. and our lack of scoring a run and squandering runners every inning today Im gussing if we didn't go 1-13 with RISP JF manages the BP differently We did score runs, there's no reason to leave Morales in there walking batter after batter. It was a 1 run game when he came in the game. He mismanaged it and it ended up costing us.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 8, 2013 16:09:17 GMT -5
Well, at least this bottom of the 9th has been pretty fun. The Angels have their closer coming into a save situation. Who would've thought? Funny, this game felt like a blowout, yet we're outhitting them 14-12. Ridiculous run-scoring walks will do that. But, yeah, Farrell's bullpen management was mind boggling today. and our lack of scoring a run and squandering runners every inning today Im gussing if we didn't go 1-13 with RISP JF manages the BP differently You're not wrong, but unlike terrible performances with RISP, bullpen management only consists of simple decisions (not professional baseball players facing other professional baseball players, where there are various potential outcomes).
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 8, 2013 16:09:53 GMT -5
Well, at least this bottom of the 9th has been pretty fun. The Angels have their closer coming into a save situation. Who would've thought? Funny, this game felt like a blowout, yet we're outhitting them 14-12. Ridiculous run-scoring walks will do that. But, yeah, Farrell's bullpen management was mind boggling today. and our lack of scoring a run and squandering runners every inning today Im gussing if we didn't go 1-13 with RISP JF manages the BP differently It was one run game. And if he put Capp on the lineup before Salty we could score more. Salty has been terrible in the RBI situation.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 8, 2013 16:12:21 GMT -5
Agree this was about RISP up to the 7th, but it was also a 1 run game in the 7th when Farrell lost his mind. You manage to win the game in front of you, not to "get through" the two games. In a double header you always try to win the first one and steal the second. The IBB to load the bases - never a good idea - and then leaving Morales in after two walks on 9 pitches, just dumb. Team loss, but the manager insured the outcome in the 7th.
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Post by honkbal on Jun 8, 2013 16:14:11 GMT -5
At the end of the game, one team went 3 for 19 with RISP and the other went 4 for 15. Tough to peg this one too much on situational hitting.
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