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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 12, 2013 23:24:48 GMT -5
6/13 Red Sox (LHP Felix Doubront 4-3 4.84) @ Orioles (RHP Kevin Gausman 0-3 8.84) 7:05 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI6/14 Red Sox (RHP Ryan Dempster 4-6 4.40) @ Orioles (RHP Chris Tillman 6-2 3.89) 7:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI6/15 Red Sox (RHP John Lackey 3-5 3.14) @ Orioles (RHP Freddy Garcia 3-3 4.47) 4:05 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI6/16 Red Sox (RHP Clay Buchholz 9-0 1.71) @ Orioles (RHP Miguel Gonzalez 4-2 3.71) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 12, 2013 23:39:02 GMT -5
Lackey's starting Saturday's game with Buchholz going on Sunday.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 12, 2013 23:54:24 GMT -5
Big matchups... Wait, Freddy Garcia is STILL pitching in the MLB? Sweet Jesus...
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 13, 2013 7:17:55 GMT -5
Lackey's starting Saturday's game with Buchholz going on Sunday. That gives Lester 6 days before his next start. Can use the rest. I believe he's thrown the most pitches in MLB this year. Bringing Alex Wilson up for the weekend? Sending Aceves down?? I'd take a split down there.
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Post by sammo420 on Jun 13, 2013 7:29:41 GMT -5
Big matchups... Wait, Freddy Garcia is STILL pitching in the MLB? Sweet Jesus... The Yankees should be picking up Aaron Sele one of these days for a nice one hitter out of nowhere against us.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 7:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 13, 2013 10:48:27 GMT -5
How about a spot start for a kid from the minors? RDLR? Anyone? Even in AA I would take ANthony or Drake. Just one start throw the kid something.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 13, 2013 11:14:35 GMT -5
How about a spot start for a kid from the minors? RDLR? Anyone? Even in AA I would take ANthony or Drake. Just one start throw the kid something. Aceves has been great in his last 2 spot starts. Why change something that's working? Didn't think we would at the start of the year. But, this division is up for grabs. Want to grind every game out against, NYY, Balt and TB.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 13, 2013 11:18:53 GMT -5
If you run the numbers the Redsox are probably the 2nd best team in baseball. Certainly one of the top 3-4. Statistically the Cardinals are looking extremely strong.
I say go for it!
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 13, 2013 11:21:14 GMT -5
It is particularly impressive that they are still winning series against top competition. The Rays were hot coming into this series. They are playing solid baseball overall.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jun 13, 2013 11:29:07 GMT -5
I'm all for RDLR making a spot start this season but we can't really rely on him. At some point he's going to get shut down, so it's not as if we can rely on him to be there come september. It's a shame too because he really seems like he starting to put it together....oh well hopefully he stays healthy, keeps it up, and carry's it into next year.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 13, 2013 13:14:55 GMT -5
They would be well advised to minimize RDLR's innings this year, as they have been doing. I wonder what exactly they expect. It would be hard to imagine they are just warming him up for the minors this year. We should expect him at least to be available as a reliever I would think.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 13, 2013 14:39:21 GMT -5
Iggy sits again tonight. I'd rather see the AL pitchers end the roll instead of the manager.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 13, 2013 14:44:39 GMT -5
CF Ellsbury RF Victorino 2B Pedroia DH Ortiz 1B Napoli LF Nava C Saltalamacchia 3B Middlebrooks SS Drew
LHP Doubront
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LF McLouth 3B Machado RF Markakis CF Jones 1B Davis C Wieters SS Hardy DH Valencia 2B Flaherty
RHP Gausman
Guess some will find it a little surprising to see Drew starting so many consecutive games when considering the Iglesias situation. We know the competition is mostly centered between Iggy and WMB, and you can argue that it's only really appropriate to sit Drew vs LHP's. Unfortunately, we've been facing only righties lately, and looks like that's going to continue for a few days. Drew is going to have to sit at least one of these out.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 13, 2013 14:48:15 GMT -5
Wilson up, Aceves down.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 14:56:50 GMT -5
Very expected. They then can call Aceves up as the 26th man Tuesday.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 13, 2013 15:03:52 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if they don't even have Aceves report to Pawtucket, since he can be recalled to pitch in the doubleheader on Tuesday despite the 10-day rule. If he doesn't report (he's got a certain number of days after being optioned in which to do so), they don't need to clear a spot for him. Thus, they can add Bogaerts without a countermove, at least for a few days.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 13, 2013 15:10:36 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if they don't even have Aceves report to Pawtucket, since he can be recalled to pitch in the doubleheader on Tuesday despite the 10-day rule . If he doesn't report (he's got a certain number of days after being optioned in which to do so), they don't need to clear a spot for him. Thus, they can add Bogaerts without a countermove, at least for a few days.Hadn't even thought of that.Good thinking.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 13, 2013 15:33:27 GMT -5
RT @britt_ghiroli: I don't have any weather updates. But the radar doesn't look friendly.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 13, 2013 15:39:11 GMT -5
Guess some will find it a little surprising to see Drew starting so many consecutive games when considering the Iglesias situation. We know the competition is mostly centered between Iggy and WMB, and you can argue that it's only really appropriate to sit Drew vs LHP's. Unfortunately, we've been facing only righties lately, and looks like that's going to continue for a few days. Drew is going to have to sit at least one of these out. I still don't understand why they hand the keys to being an everyday player over to WMB. What has he done this year that warrants him being anywhere but AAA? I honestly feel for Iglesias, the organization has not given him the chance to prove himself for an extended period of time at the MLB level, and he might never get one with Xander slowly creeping into the picture. I know that his minor-league numbers don't look great, but when I look at him he strikes me as the type of player who would perform better in Boston than he would in AA/AAA.
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Post by honkbal on Jun 13, 2013 15:55:21 GMT -5
I think I'd prefer to see Morales go Sunday and Lester and Buchholz start the two games of the DH.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 13, 2013 16:06:19 GMT -5
Guess some will find it a little surprising to see Drew starting so many consecutive games when considering the Iglesias situation. We know the competition is mostly centered between Iggy and WMB, and you can argue that it's only really appropriate to sit Drew vs LHP's. Unfortunately, we've been facing only righties lately, and looks like that's going to continue for a few days. Drew is going to have to sit at least one of these out. I still don't understand why they hand the keys to being an everyday player over to WMB. What has he done this year that warrants him being anywhere but AAA? I honestly feel for Iglesias, the organization has not given him the chance to prove himself for an extended period of time at the MLB level, and he might never get one with Xander slowly creeping into the picture. I know that his minor-league numbers don't look great, but when I look at him he strikes me as the type of player who would perform better in Boston than he would in AA/AAA. WMB's time is running out, but they still need to get a gauge on what they have with him going forward. It's easy to dismiss his prospects for being a productive regular with us going forward simply due to his plate discipline, but that's not entirely fair. Don't get me wrong, he was swinging at balls everywhere to a point where you couldn't fathom him ever being a quality regular, and he posted an exact .642 OPS both in April and May. Still, they may want to get one final extended look at him while he's healthy before making a major decision going forward. He's never going to walk much, and his defense at third probably won't ever be much above average, but he could still have some decent trade value. If he has a hot few weeks, does that change anybody's minds about wanting him removed, or does it make us want to capitalize on a trade? Also remember: iglesias is going to be the shortstop as soon as Drew is gone, and Bogaerts may not be up for good until closer to mid-season 2014. So while you may think we have no room at the moment, Drew is certainly going to be gone next season. Who is going to be our third baseman until Bogaerts arrives? Do you want to keep WMB around in a reserve role this season, and have him get a shot at most of the time in early 2014? AAA for a while? There are just a lot of things to consider.
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 13, 2013 16:10:10 GMT -5
Guess some will find it a little surprising to see Drew starting so many consecutive games when considering the Iglesias situation. We know the competition is mostly centered between Iggy and WMB, and you can argue that it's only really appropriate to sit Drew vs LHP's. Unfortunately, we've been facing only righties lately, and looks like that's going to continue for a few days. Drew is going to have to sit at least one of these out. I still don't understand why they hand the keys to being an everyday player over to WMB. What has he done this year that warrants him being anywhere but AAA? I honestly feel for Iglesias, the organization has not given him the chance to prove himself for an extended period of time at the MLB level, and he might never get one with Xander slowly creeping into the picture. I know that his minor-league numbers don't look great, but when I look at him he strikes me as the type of player who would perform better in Boston than he would in AA/AAA. Thats called wishfull thinking. I think people should try not to overreact with the Middlebrooks hatred. We have seen plenty of very good players play badly for a month or two at a time, and we have seen average or worse players go through very good stretches. Last year people thought Ciriaco was a legitimate starter for a couple months. The year before Aceves seamed like a quality starting pitcher. In 2010 poeple were saying Ortiz needed to retire after a shitty April. Middlebrooks is a significantly better hitter than Iglesias
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 13, 2013 16:20:18 GMT -5
Send Middlebrooks to AAA and let him work it out. We are benching a guy who is an incredible fielder plus has an OBP of almost .500. A strong case could be made that freaking Iglesias has been out MVP for the past month. I say play him until his lucky charms get soggy.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 13, 2013 16:21:43 GMT -5
And I think virtually everyone here has nothing but the utmost respect for Will Middlebrooks and wants the best for him. A true 1st class person and teammate.
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