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Post by jmei on Jun 13, 2013 21:45:21 GMT -5
stopped watching the game awhile ago, just following gameday so I didnt see the play. What does this mean? "Jacoby Ellsbury reaches on catcher interference by Matt Wieters." Wieters' glove was in the swing path and Ellsbury clipped it during his swing.
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Post by marrcus on Jun 13, 2013 22:15:58 GMT -5
O's swinging for the fences which is helping RS RP but they are still a threat to end this with an ab .... soon.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 22:27:45 GMT -5
With all these extra inning games, its shocking that it was only a decade or so ago that teams carried only 10/11 pitchers.
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 13, 2013 22:28:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure there's anything worse to watch than extra inning baseball.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 13, 2013 22:45:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure there's anything worse to watch than extra inning baseball. I'm sure watching extra innings only for your team to lose on a bloop single qualifies as being worse.
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Post by ikonos on Jun 13, 2013 22:46:41 GMT -5
Great Job by wilson. Did farrell gave the game away trying to protect Bailey and Uehara? I think after Adam Jones single the writing is on the wall and he could have taken out Wilson. What gives?
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 22:49:44 GMT -5
Great Job by wilson. Did farrell gave the game away trying to protect Bailey and Uehara? I think after Adam Jones single the writing is on the wall and he could have taken out Wilson. What gives? No, Wilson good a good job even in the last inning. This was not due to bullpen management, IMO. They just got unlucky on the bloop.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 22:51:33 GMT -5
BTW, has Jenny Dell never seen a winning player take shaving cream to the face before? Its a pretty common occurrence in the majors...
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 13, 2013 22:52:04 GMT -5
Game should of never went to extra innings anyways, that Middlebrooks error was costly.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 13, 2013 22:55:23 GMT -5
Farrell's decision not to use Iggy costs a game. Good job.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 13, 2013 22:56:30 GMT -5
Game should of never went to extra innings anyways, that Middlebrooks error was costly. UH... NO! getting no hits for 6+ straight innings (other then the C interference) cost us the game
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 13, 2013 22:57:41 GMT -5
Game should of never went to extra innings anyways, that Middlebrooks error was costly. UH... NO! getting no hits for 6+ straight innings (other then the C interference) cost us the game Red Sox scored 4 runs. If WMB doesn't commit an error, O's only score 3. Games over in 9.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 22:59:41 GMT -5
The Red Sox should be able to score 1 run in 6 innings off relievers. Just like most games, there is always multiple reasons for a win/loss.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 13, 2013 23:01:41 GMT -5
The Red Sox should be able to score 1 run in 6 innings off relievers. Just like most games, there is always multiple reasons for a win/loss. or just a few hits
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 13, 2013 23:03:15 GMT -5
Evan Drellich ? evandrellich 50s Red Sox will bring up an arm for tomorrow, Farrell says
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 23:03:41 GMT -5
Obviously sample size issues, but Carp really does not really have a bad platoon split against lefties. Either this year or in his career. I would like to see him get a chance as a more full-time player. especially if it means that Gomes is not wandering around left field.
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Post by godot on Jun 13, 2013 23:04:32 GMT -5
For obvious reasons it is very hard to say that his decision not to use Iggy cost the game. Regardless, it is becoming increasingly hard to justify having the now light hitting Drew play when Iggy can also hit 220 but play an even better defense. It seems every time Drew start to turn the corner he tails off. Given Drew's past offensive record, can't really fault Farrell though, but it is becoming tougher to justify. However, Drew is not the reason they lost this game.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 13, 2013 23:04:35 GMT -5
Evan Drellich ? evandrellich 50s Red Sox will bring up an arm for tomorrow, Farrell says Stephen Wright would be my guess, so you do not need to make a change on the 40 man roster.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 13, 2013 23:08:56 GMT -5
Game should of never went to extra innings anyways, that Middlebrooks error was costly. Posts like this make me wonder if some of you really know anything about the game. Errors happen, when a guy doesn't make a play, it's a teammates job to "pick him up", Doubront had a chance to pitch around that error and didn't. In baseball, teammates pick each other up all of the time, sure Middlebrooks made an error, but it didn't cost the Sox the game, it merely contributed to the loss. I am not blaming the loss on Doubront either, the Red Sox lost, someone needed to step up and get a big hit, or strike someone out, or make a great defensive play, and in the end, it didn't happen. The team wins or loses games, very rarely individuals, and the great teams understand this. I have played on, and coached many teams that do not have that dynamic, and guys walk around pointing fingers at one another, and those teams very rarely had much success.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 13, 2013 23:09:12 GMT -5
Didn't mean to preach, just hit a nerve is all.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 13, 2013 23:13:50 GMT -5
For obvious reasons it is very hard to say that his decision not to use Iggy cost the game. Regardless, it is becoming increasingly hard to justify having the now light hitting Drew play when Iggy can also hit 220 but play an even better defense. It seems every time Drew start to turn the corner he tails off. Given Drew's past offensive record, can't really fault Farrell though, but it is becoming tougher to justify. However, Drew is not the reason they lost this game. His season, offensively (been much better defensively this year), is really starting to look very similar to last year: 2012: .223/.309/.348, .291 wOBA, 79 wRC+ 2013: .218/.310/.378 (after tonight's performance) As you said, it is starting to get really hard to justify sitting Iglesias when your whole left side of the infield is currently struggling at the plate. At some point, you've got to consider that he is the superior defender by a pretty significant margin and can at the very least match that production.
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Post by bsout2 on Jun 13, 2013 23:42:11 GMT -5
After tonight's loss I feel like the Red Sox need to be proactive and get another starter. I wonder if they could build a package for Cliff Lee around Ranaudo, Brentz, maybe throw in Doubront? Lee would also have to accept coming here.
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Post by ikonos on Jun 13, 2013 23:56:19 GMT -5
Do you believe the team this year is good enough to win a world series if only they have a Cliff Lee? If you do then you can trade for that one guy. I think this team is very good but not good enough to win a world series. History shows it rarely is the case a single player puts a team over the top. It often is role players acquired at trade deadline that end up having more impact than a front line bat or starter. I think they should hold on to their pieces and see what they have next year.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 14, 2013 0:06:23 GMT -5
Do you believe the team this year is good enough to win a world series if only they have a Cliff Lee? If you do then you can trade for that one guy. I think this team is very good but not good enough to win a world series. History shows it rarely is the case a single player puts a team over the top. It often is role players acquired at trade deadline that end up having more impact than a front line bat or starter. I think they should hold on to their pieces and see what they have next year. Best offense in baseball. A great bullpen. A guy who is the favorite to be the all star game starting pitcher. I'm not sure what else they need to be considered a World Series contender besides another ace pitcher.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 14, 2013 4:44:09 GMT -5
The team is playing like a champion. They are in a very tough competitive stretch and they are going toe to toe with some excellent teams. Getting into extra inning games. Coming back with a relentless attack. Showing decent pitching. One of the best records in baseball and solid run differential. We are absolutely in this guys.
It does appear that we could use another good starter though. Some sort of upgrade. To me having 3 really good starters in the playoffs is extremely important. Our ace in the hole might just be one of these prospect starters stepping it up at year end. It could even be a Webster, RDLR or a Ranaudo. Guys other teams haven't seen. The Beckett phenomena when he was a rookie. Like when Price came up as a rookie in relief.
We are absolutely in this thing.
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