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Post by taftreign on Jan 29, 2020 16:14:28 GMT -5
If the Sox can get Morejon, Campusano, Luchessi or Quantrill, plus the competitive balance pick, that's about as good as gets and you almost have to pull the trigger on that. Two top 100 prospects, a high pick between the first and second round, a controllable young starter, plus a subsidized Myers who you can cut or trade at any point. Sign me up. I certainly agree with most of what you are saying. Yet they got four prospects for Kimbrel, if we aren't getting their best guys I want an epic almost never seen before total. I don't count Myers either or the pick. So Morejon, Campusano, say Quantrill, then one or two more prospects or young players. Like say Campusano, Morejon, Quantrill and the pick are the price of Betts. Then Margot or Naylor, plus another prospect for taking Myers deal or something like that. Something that just seems stupid in how many guys they send out. I’m pretty much where you’re at. My earlier posted baseline was Margot, Lamet (prefer him to Lucchesi/Quantrill if their not giving up Gore or Patino), Campusano, Arias and the competitive balance pick for Betts and another prospect whose degree of rank depends on the value of Myers’ contract Boston picks up. Maybe that’s Morejon. Or maybe Morejon is the Betts prospect and Arias is the Myers compensation. I don’t believe Bloom should take less than that to move Betts and should rightfully ask for more.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 27, 2020 23:32:40 GMT -5
Looking at it farther neither Quantrill nor Lucchesi strike me a a target I’d find satisfactory. Lucchesi struggled mightily on the road and I don’t see a good fit in Fenway and the AL East. They should be asking for Lamet who offers greater upside.
Assuming the top four remain off limits I’d be looking for something within the given parameters of Naylor (1B/DH/OF?), Lamet (SP), Campusano (C), Gabriel Arias (SS/2B), 2020 Rd 1 competitive balance pick as a baseline with a late flyer prospect or a few international dollars added. The more money Boston takes on from the Myers contract the more the flyer prospect becomes a legit prospect.
Follow this by a second and/or third trade that brings in a serviceable OF to add to the mix and reduces the cap number. I would be willing to flip Naylor in one of these deals or you trade Dalbec as they are redundant. There is very little on the free agent market unless Holt can handle a larger OF role than he has in the past.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 27, 2020 14:59:17 GMT -5
Interesting prospects but there is a high risk in that return. Two 18 year olds that are 3 or 4 years away at the least.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 27, 2020 14:44:38 GMT -5
Margot/ Naylor and Quantrill/ Lucchesi and 50-75% of Myers’ contract for Betts is so bad that I can only assume this was the initial offer Padres made and not what’s currently on the table.... I hope. I agree not enough but as said if it’s Campusano as the prospect and part of the compensation for Myers contract is the 1st round competitive balance pick I think you have enough for one year of Betts plus Myers. This protects you partially in any loss of draft picks that could ensue if the investigation finds any wrong doing. At least your money pool isn’t completely devastated. Following it up by unloading more salary only makes sense to reset and ensue in offering the largest deal to Mookie next offseason when you can now exceed the limit again. The unknown here is does the new CBA effect this.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 27, 2020 7:38:23 GMT -5
Johnson, 30, will now take over for Altobelli as head baseball coach. Hours after word spread of Altobelli's passing, nearly 300 players and coaches from every phase of the program's history gathered at the baseball field to honor the legendary coach and his family, placing flowers atop home plate. Altobelli has another daughter, Lexi, who is a junior in high school, and a son, J.J., who is a scout for the Boston Red Sox. I don’t know at what level he is a scout but it appears J.J. Altobelli has lost his father John Altobelli in the California helicopter crash. Condolences to his family. www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28570865/orange-coast-college-baseball-coach-john-altobelli-helicopter-crash-victims
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Post by taftreign on Jan 26, 2020 16:12:08 GMT -5
Very very sad. Espn is also reporting his 13 year old daughter also died in the crash. A tragic loss for his family and I pray they have support to come around them at this time and into the future. I cannot imagine losing my spouse and one of my children so unexpectedly. My heart is very saddened.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 24, 2020 16:25:01 GMT -5
If they do this deal I would suspect it's Myers, Margot, Quantrill and Morejon for Betts. And Manfred, why would SD do this deal rather than wait a year to sign Moookie? Because they probably know they can't sign him either and they're taking a shot that this year they can vault into serious contention. They have already spent a ton of money on Machado and Hosmer. Odds are they cannot afford Mookie so this is their one chance to rent Mookie and it won't even touch the top of their farm system. Their lineup could contain Mookie, Tatis, Machado, Hosmer, Pham, Grisham, Mejia, and Profar. That's a really good lineup that they can contend with. I hear you, but I guess it seems like an all-in for a long shot. I might be wrong, but their pitching is not great, is it? I mean, with youth and Machado signed longterm, I’d be more interested in sustaining a solid team than playing for one year. Their pitching is just unproven. Paddack, Richards, Lamet, Davis, Lucchesi and Quantrill is not a bad six man starting point. Paddack was very good last year and should be able to handle a full work load this year. Lucchesi is a solid back end starter. Lamet has shown promise. And the fact that MacKenzie Gore will be up at some point this year and is the best pitching prospect in baseball. He is superb. Luis Patino is not far behind him as a prospect. Both have just a few innings of AA experience so the timing is arguably a year off but both could be second half boons. All they need it to stay competitive and in reach through July. They have a fairly solid bullpen as well anchored by Yates. It’s not hard to imagine the Padres as a wildcard winner. The likelihood of them overcoming the Dodgers is very very small to win the division. They should surpass the Rockies and Giants this season and be neck and neck with Arizona with that roster. The key here is there are jobs on the line if they fail to win the wild card or at the very least be in it until September.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 23, 2020 20:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Jan 13, 2020 15:53:32 GMT -5
Unreal. I'll take a ring any day of the week, so if Cora is fired and/or has a lifetime ban, he's always welcome around in my book. I'd rather not have rings that are "tainted", but I'd rather have one than not have one. It's just a sad circumstance. Now, if he got busted and lost? Completely different story. So, there's a bit of a luck factor in there. At least it is known this was not possible in the post season. MLB was monitoring replay rooms.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 13, 2020 15:49:57 GMT -5
Honestly while the Red Sox offense was less significant I expect the punishment to be equal or more severe. This isn’t about the penalty fitting the crime it’s all about sending a message for Manfred. Cora is doubly indicted. We already moved on from our Gm so we are ahead of the game there. But ultimately the fact that it is a second offense I think will resonate far greater to the commish. It’s just the simple I told you and specifically you as well as the others not to do this. A how dare you disobey me scenario. Let’s just hope Bloom is the man to walk us through this valley. Perhaps this ultimately results in moving a few pieces we wouldn’t have otherwise like Benintendi or Rodriguez within the next year. Perhaps even JD Martinez.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 7, 2020 12:30:22 GMT -5
Two things for sure. This does not look well on the Red Sox organization and of course the general fan will link it to the Patriots as a larger problem even though they have no link other than geography. Second, this will not help the Red Sox farm system improve as a second offense will hurt one or both of the international and amateur draft in addition to other penalties.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 2, 2020 19:48:12 GMT -5
This is doable, like this:
- Alex Verdugo is part of the package.
- The Dodgers pick up the right amount of Price salary to leave the Sox where they want to be, rather than too far under the cap. That means the Sox have to already have in place the moves to spend the money saved, like signing Eric Thames to play 1B, and Chisek for the pen.
- A prospect package so tasty that will project to be a disaster if the Dodgers don't re-sign Betts a year from now ... unless they win a WS with him, in which case they probably won't regret it. They make the trade hoping that one of those things happens.
The idea is, you make a trade that's good in the long run even if you can't re-sign Mookie, even factoring in the reduced chances of making the post-season this year. Depending on how good you project Verdugo to be, the bar for that may be very high, hence bullet point three.
And making that trade and then re-signing Mookie a year from now, which is the plan, is a coup. For one year of Mookie, you've gotten five of Verdugo (to replace JBJ a year from now), and a sexy prospect package, and also recovered some of the money that DDo overspent on Price.
I still don’t understand this perception by the media that Price is some sort of negative asset. There is a difference between offloading salary to get under a threshold and offloading salary that is essentially dead money. The idea of trading Betts and Price for May and salary relief is laughable to me. Price is close to a market value starting pitcher that should have some real value of return because its a limited commodity and Betts even with limited control has real value because of his awesomeness and opportunity to sell him on your franchise. So yes I agree with Eric that a Verdugo plus Gosselin/May and lesser prospects with Boston taking on a smaller portion of Prices contract is very reasonable. I just don’t get why the media pushes Price for essentially nothing like there doing Boston a favor.
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Post by taftreign on Dec 15, 2019 13:51:49 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal (@ken_Rosenthal) Tweeted: OF Delino DeShields Jr. and RHP Emmanuel Clase heading to #Indians for Kluber, source tells The Athletic
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Post by taftreign on Nov 27, 2019 15:22:05 GMT -5
4/34 for the Andrew Miller Starter Kit doesn't suck. Amazing how fast a pitcher can move his value, Pomeranz earned 34 million dollars in 28 innings. I think there is an above average chance he can earn his salary or surpass it so this is probably a good deal for both sides. Entering his age 31 season he has always had decent stuff though always seemed to fall short of his potential. Currently I believe his contract places him about 20th on the AAV salary scale so not what our team needs right now.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 27, 2019 15:13:38 GMT -5
I was reading on MLBtraderumors.com that Dylan Bundy might be dealt very soon. It says nothing is imminent, but that the Orioles are working to trade him. Maybe even as badly as he's pitched, he might be worth a good look for the Red Sox. He's youngish, healthy, and still has upside given his pedigree. Maybe with a different coach and team, something will click. He doesn't make a ton of money and they need somebody to fill in Porcello's spot. Perhaps Bundy is a guy to look at? I've always thought Bundy would be a beast in the bullpen. Agreed. He has always seemed to be a guy who has two great pitches but not excel at the third. Times through the order: 1st Era 3.95 Fip 4.39 K/9 9.92 2nd Era 4.99 Fip 4.94 K/9 8.62 3rd Era 5.83 Fip 5.34 K/9 7.96 I think he would be a solid conversion candidate. Then again he does have value as a solid innings eater averaging 167 innings per season the past three so it would depend on what adjustments a team could make to get more out of him as a starter
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Post by taftreign on Nov 27, 2019 15:00:51 GMT -5
Pomeranz signs with the padres hopefully we don’t trade Mata for him at the deadline. Though I know it's tongue in cheek I don't think we would look to take on his 4 yrs at 8ish million per year as a bullpen arm given our cap implications. I think Chaim will excel at finding cheaper quality arms to fill the bullpen via free agency or trade. At least that is my hope rather than putting a sizable portion of the payroll into the bullpen in the future given the contracts that our position players deserve and our starting staff has on the books.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2019 16:44:46 GMT -5
So this is Cashman's plan for how he can afford Cole.
Just choose to not pay another player. This is a very dangerous precedent for baseball to get into and the union should be on top of this with a heavy hand. Not sure what "outside medical treatment" would warrant this kind of response but it comes across very petty and cheap.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 21, 2019 20:24:19 GMT -5
Odds that Bazardo gets nabbed? Do the Orioles still play in the MLB? Then 100%.
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Post by taftreign on Sept 28, 2019 12:50:08 GMT -5
The one obvious change should be removing luxury tax payments to tanking teams. How would you best define 'tanking teams' if you were MLB. Is it hard dollars spent on players or a percentage of revenue spent on players. This could be manipulated by paying a big contract to one star or semi star in an "overpay" to reach the threshold and so I don't think it can correlate to dollars spent directly. I agree if the draft pools were not so heavily waited to the top 3 or so picks and less beneficial as a whole I think the desire to tank would be curbed quite a bit. Ultimately tanking is a result based on wins produced or rather not produced. Is it possible instead or in addition to looking at draft pools to build a system with a statistically defined win threshold (based on the schedule and variance of teams there has to be a theoretical number that teams should be able to hit even if they are currently in a low point of a rebuild) or a tier of win thresholds that penalize teams who lose 'X' number of games. For example Detroit is <50 wins. Baltimore is 50 to < 55. Miami and KC are 55 to <60. No-one is 60 to <65. Seattle, Pittsburgh and Colorado are 65 to < 69. This with 2 games to go so Colorado and Pittsburgh can hit 70, KC could reach 60 and Baltimore could reach 55. Clearly Seattle, Pittsburgh and Colorado don't feel or exhibit tanking. But all the other teams do. Maybe the threshold is in the 65 range with the penalty being similar to going over the luxury tax limit as a result dropping your draft pick 10 spots or 5 spots depending on what tier level you fall in. It takes away a total tank, offers incentive to field a competitive team and as a result spend more money to achieve the '65' win level. Yes it probably means teams looking to be bad will bunch together in the 65 to 68 win range but it reduces the odds you get a top 2 or 3 pick and since most players on the field try to win teams will get hot and all of a sudden your a 70 to 75 win team and picking in the teens. This still makes draft order dependent on the on field performance vs. the randomness of a lottery but maybe people love the lottery system and randomness determining the order. Not a fix for on field or attendance but it does help the fanbases of those half dozen teams who have no real incentive to spend money to go to the park and by food or merchandise or even tune in on the tv. There is no worse feeling as a fan than that of no hope.
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Post by taftreign on Aug 3, 2019 15:15:09 GMT -5
But guys! We could have traded our top 3 prospects so that Edwin Diaz could get some work in this game and give up a few more runs! Don't recall anybody suggesting they give up 3 top prospects for Diaz I think the Mets suggested it.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 31, 2019 15:36:00 GMT -5
Wow, unless there's a ridiculous amount of cash, that's a crazy haul for Arizona. Yes this is the kind of move to allow a team to rebuild while not tearing it all down.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 31, 2019 15:33:39 GMT -5
Started in the AL cutting his teeth in KC. We will see how the field plays. KC is a huge park and there are about 50% more home runs now. Yes well aware of that. Why I noted the field. I think he will see an adjustment period but will pitch with close results thereafter.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 31, 2019 15:22:54 GMT -5
Greinke will have fun moving to the AL, especially that stadium. Started in the AL cutting his teeth in KC. We will see how the field plays.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 31, 2019 15:19:58 GMT -5
Giants add Gennett, Twins add Dyson.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 31, 2019 15:17:59 GMT -5
Wonder who Astros gave up. Tucker? Greinke is huge for Houston. Verlander, Cole and Greinke. This will not play well on NY talk radio.
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