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Post by taftreign on Jan 29, 2021 23:33:59 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Jan 24, 2021 14:22:22 GMT -5
Perhaps the guys in the package are underrated, but to land Taillon without giving up a single guy ranked in your Top 10 is surprising. And the kicker is his salary this year is 2.25 million with another year of arbitration next year to fit neatly into their payroll.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 12, 2021 20:42:46 GMT -5
Former number one overall pick. Dombrowski trading the farm again lol. Just make sure we get that extra piece thrown in to recoup the ones Dombroski sent out!
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Post by taftreign on Dec 26, 2020 12:01:59 GMT -5
I’ll be shocked if the Sox miss out on Kluber. Will be in on all three of Sugano, Odorizzi and Happ, but could come away with none of them. I still think a starter will be brought in by trade. Sonny Gray please! The Red Sox farm system should not be depleted in a deal for Sonny Gray. Not when they can pick up comparable or better pitching on the free agent market. I do think among the pitchers you mentioned the Sox will come away with one or two of them. And as somebody else mentioned, pitching in the NLC was pretty advantageous for the pitchers and I think Gray benefited from that and the low pressure atmosphere. Not sure he'd do well in the East in a pressure cooker like Boston. He certainly didn't handle NY well at all. I can't justify giving up some of your better prospects to get him.For what it’s worth he claims his struggles came from NY making him throw too many sliders and get away from his normal approach. His side anyway.
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Post by taftreign on Dec 7, 2020 22:59:04 GMT -5
The Reds better have gotten one helluva PTBNL along with Noe Ramirez because that's a brutally awful deal otherwise. Wish the Sox could have pounced on a deal like that assuming the PTBNL isn't some top notch prospect. My question is what is the value of a Sonny Gray if they are cutting costs? How much prospect value are we talking? One decent headliner and a few lesser pieces? $10 mil per year is a great contract and only helps the Reds leverage. I would love to add Gray to our rotation.
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Post by taftreign on Aug 21, 2020 22:44:50 GMT -5
Quite happy with this result. Neither Workman nor Hembree are irreplaceable in the bullpen. Tampa Bay for years have been able to find cheap arms for the pen who have pitched to great success and I have to hope Bloom has learned a thing or two in these regards.
The one thing that is harder to find are cheap controllable starting pitching options and there are two coming back in this trade. Pivetta has quality stuff but has not put it together for any long stretches but is a quality piece as a 4th starter. Seabold has upside if not top of the rotation stuff. I for one enjoy a good command and control pitcher in the rotation and believe these pitchers are often underrated, although Seabold seems to have the love of the scouting community.
I’m surprised after watching this years starting staff that anyone would not think this is a win. In a lost season Boston essentially is giving up 1 year of Hembree for 3 arb years of Pivetta, who is making about 500,000 this season (162 game value), and 6 seasons of Seabold.
A rotation next season of Sale once he’s healthy, Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Pivetta, some combo of Perez, Godley and/or a Free Agent (#3 to #5) doesn’t seem bad to me. The offense should be very competitive next season just on in house replacements. This doesn’t need to be a complete tear down and rebuild with a core of Bogaerts, Devers, JD and Verdugo supplemented by some reasonable prospects in Casas, Downs, Dalbec and Duran and quality depth at other positions.
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Post by taftreign on Aug 8, 2020 1:08:38 GMT -5
I think you need to point out Chavis did everything two years earlier even with all those injuries. AA at age 21, Dalbec age 23. Dalbec drops his strikeout rate at age 24 in AA and AAA, Chavis is going into his 2nd major league season at age 24. Dalbec at age 25 hasn't even made it yet. Like imagine Chavis spending over a 100 games at AA this year, I bet he'd be unreal. May be a moot point. To me Chavis is one of the most likely pieces Bloom will trade. His skills are easily replaceable within the existing roster (i.e. Dalbec and/or Casas) and has more years of service time making him the more expensive option.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 20, 2020 19:07:16 GMT -5
Would the old Ballpark in Arlington be an option? Wikipedia says: I would think it could be unretrofitted easily enough. Now granted, they'd have to yield use of the 50,000 seat stadium to Major League Rugby, the behemoth of the American sporting scene, but apparently MLR has suspended play until 2021. Well since the AL East teams will only play other AL East teams and NL East teams I think they would prefer a location on the east coast.
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Post by taftreign on Apr 22, 2020 17:15:03 GMT -5
From what I read I thought it sounded more that Watkins used video to decode signs and provided the information in the pregame info.
Manfred said he doesn’t believe Cora or the players specifically knew the information came from video decoding and wouldn’t have held them accountable even if the players were subject to discipline.
Also stresses the front office had repeatedly informed the staff and players about the requisite warnings about using video in game.
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Post by taftreign on Mar 3, 2020 17:15:16 GMT -5
The reported new money of 7 years and $187.25 Mil seems on the light side. That’s $26.75 Mil per year AAV. Seems like a bargain when Betts wants close to $40 Mil per.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 19, 2020 16:59:05 GMT -5
I believe it was in yesterdays media session in Arizona that Manfred himself said he expected to report on the investigation at the end of next week. So I would say that is a confirmed timeframe. Likely to be next Thursday or Friday.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 19:58:08 GMT -5
If Downs is thought of as the 2B of the future I wonder if Chavis could be dealt? Prospect for prospect packages aren’t as common but you could see a case where Dalbec and Casas are redundant at some point and look to move Dalbec and Chavis in a deal for starting pitching.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 19:29:34 GMT -5
Congratulations, Chaim! You hung in there. Some others here thought we could get 4-5 top 10 prospects. You aimed high, and we got it. Total cojanes. So sorry to see Mookie go but that’s the way it is. Vertigo-Downes-Wong is an OK package. I love Chaim as GM. This whole escapade left us all with a bit of Vertigo! Some people are pretty Downes about it. I hope their Wong.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 16:54:52 GMT -5
We dont need to trade Price to get under the cap. So its not the same as landing a prospect. We might not even have a first round pick in the next draft anyway. Maybe that's the Red Sox' way of saying, "We don't really think Price will bounce back enough to even allow us to get somebody else to pay half his salary". They must be really anxious to get rid of him, that they're not willing to take that gamble. There’s a difference between being under the cap and having enough space to be flexible in signing younger players to extension, add at the deadline if the need arises and signing free agents the following offseason, be it Betts or anyone else. Yes Betts alone was enough to get under the cap this year but there are advantages to having Price's partial salary relief the next two seasons. Maybe they sign Puig to a 1 year deal with the thought of competing or trading him at the trade deadline for more prospect or years of control value. Maybe they extend Devers and/or Erod. Maybe they resign Holt as a versatile bench option. Maybe they do none of this and are just setting a three year plan. There are many possibilities. One of which is Price is healthy and looks terrific for LA. One is also Price comes down with an injury and misses half the season destroying his trade value. I’m not going to crap on Bloom for this decision even if we see more value in Price than the outside world does. My biggest concern is that the deal leaves us in a tough spot in not just completing the rotation but the rotation depth. I suspect we are going to see multiple openers this season.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 15:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 9:42:13 GMT -5
Here is a scenario that may be driving the holdup. Boston notices a medical red flag bringing hesitation to the original trade and a request for additional renumeration. At this time the holdup is reported and other teams call expressing interest in Betts and/or Price. Said teams layout the package they would be willing to part with which is greater than Verdugo/Graterol. Enough greater that a lesser prospect or more salary relief doesn’t compare. Boston now uses this info as a baseline for what they would like in addition to the existing deal which causes both LA and Minnesota to waiver because it is a significant enough increase over the previous deal. Bloom can draw a hard line for their asking price knowing they have a fall back deal ready to go if this falls through. I think this would seem logical. Teams such as St Louis, Philadelphia, NY Mets, Atlanta, Washington could potentially have a need for a one year superstar to push for a World Series and have enough payroll to carry added salary for one season and/or consider a long term deal next offseason. And of course San Diego still lingers. Betts has been available all winter. If there was going to be a bidding war, why would it start now? I would have to guess it is either a realization that what it would take to get Betts is less than they originally thought. That only makes sense if a team inexplicably didn’t check in with Boston during the process to ascertain his trade value. Or a regret for missing out on Betts either driven by an owner who now has unlocked more payroll for his GM to get Betts and keep him from LA or by a team with open payroll that just saw the Dodgers get better and become greater favorites to win the NL pennant and World Series desiring to level the playing field. It does seem odd that other teams are contacting Boston after the snag was reported to check in on Betts. Didn’t seem to be much reported outside of LA and San Diego initially.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 9, 2020 9:15:38 GMT -5
Here is a scenario that may be driving the holdup. Boston notices a medical red flag bringing hesitation to the original trade and a request for additional renumeration. At this time the holdup is reported and other teams call expressing interest in Betts and/or Price. Said teams layout the package they would be willing to part with which is greater than Verdugo/Graterol. Enough greater that a lesser prospect or more salary relief doesn’t compare.
Boston now uses this info as a baseline for what they would like in addition to the existing deal which causes both LA and Minnesota to waiver because it is a significant enough increase over the previous deal. Bloom can draw a hard line for their asking price knowing they have a fall back deal ready to go if this falls through. I think this would seem logical. Teams such as St Louis, Philadelphia, NY Mets, Atlanta, Washington could potentially have a need for a one year superstar to push for a World Series and have enough payroll to carry added salary for one season and/or consider a long term deal next offseason. And of course San Diego still lingers.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 7, 2020 15:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Feb 6, 2020 18:13:15 GMT -5
To be fair to Bloom, it’s Dombrowski we should be mad at the most. His deals left the team with an inflexible payroll and a roster short on depth which was further thinned by his extra pieces added on in trades. Sure ownership could just keep spending penalties be damned but that’s not really how any good business operates and really shouldn’t be expected.
Yes Mookie probably was going to free agency anyway but you would have had payroll to keep him and play it out and even add a piece. You also would have had the option to increase your offer above the $300 million. I’d have run a shorter term deal at him with a high AAV and added an opt out. Something like 7 years and 266 mil with an opt out after 4. Gives you a chance to lock up his prime years and him a chance to get another long term deal after 4 to once again push higher earnings for the players and union. Guess I’d still see if this could be an option after this season.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 5, 2020 12:14:42 GMT -5
Bob Nightengale reporting Stripling going to angels as part of Pederson deal.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 5, 2020 10:36:26 GMT -5
With money coming off the books between now and 2023 and the tax threshold has been reset let's get a quick rundown on some of what they can now spend their money on: 2021: Mookie Betts J.T. Realmuto George Springer Daniel Murphy (mutual option) Justin Turner Marcus Semien Andrelton Simmons Jonathan Villar James Paxton Trevor Bauer 2022: Francisco Lindor Carlos Correa Corey Seager Trevor Story Javier Baez Anthony Rizzo Freddie Freeman Brandon Belt Salvador Perez Wilson Ramos Yan Gomes Michael Conforto Tommy Pham Starling Marte Kyle Schwarber Byron Buxton Aaron Nola Noah Syndergaard Clayton Kershaw Chris Archer Aroldis Chapman Kenley Jansen Brad Hand Jeurys Familia Corey Knebel Archie Bradley Raisel Iglesias Roberto Osuna The only two that excite me from this list are Mookie and Lindor. We can pray Mookie comes home and I bet Lindor plays a pretty good 2nd base too.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 4, 2020 22:15:06 GMT -5
I can’t believe this is the value of a full year of Betts, the 2nd best plater in baseball over the last 4 seasons, and a subsidized Price. How much less would have they gotten if they gave it a go and traded him over the summer at the deadline? How could San Diego not beat this deal? A bit angered and confused here.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 30, 2020 22:35:34 GMT -5
His offensive production has been solid but how much of last years production was inflated by the California League environment? Same for Arias who had a similar increase in production over multiple statistical categories. Perhaps a production by age comparison vs others in the league would help for perspective. Honestly asking because I don’t have much knowledge on the California League.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 30, 2020 7:29:49 GMT -5
If, and that's a huge if, the Dodgers are willing to include Verdugo while the best Padres headliner would be Campusano, it would be very difficult for me to pick the Padres pu pu platter over a Dodgers offer, almost regardless of whoever else is coming from LA. if you want to win the division without Mookie Betts this season Alex Verdugo plus is for sure your better path.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 29, 2020 20:52:07 GMT -5
All this speculation about trading Mookie and no mention of penalties from MLB regarding sign stealing. If the Red Sox get the same penalty as the Astros then 2020 should be an all out go-for-it year. If the penalty is not as punitive (with regard to draft picks) then trading Mookie makes some sense. The brain trust is walking on eggshells and trying to read tea leaves. Given that Cora was prominently mentioned in the 2017 investigation into the Astros, Red Sox management is really in a tough spot. Methinks a Mookie deal to the Dodgers prior to MLB's finding with respect to the electronic sign stealing investigation of the 2018 Red Sox might lessen the hammer blow if the Red Sox/Cora are found guilty in any way shape or form. Mookie to the Padre's might yield a better "deal". Mookie to the Dodgers makes that franchise an odds on favorite to win the WS. In the court of West Coast public opinion this would qualify as social media "justice". MHO is to keep Betts and go-for-it in 2020. See I think this plays a bigger role in the hiatus on hiring a new manager. If the investigation finds very little than you now have a clear path to hiring one of the in house candidates but if they uncover any significant infractions it is more likely to hire from an outside source simply because it plays better to the media and the MLB brass.
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