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Post by jmei on Aug 15, 2013 15:32:45 GMT -5
That's not what I meant-- certainly, all else equal, hitters who strike out a lot have the deck stacked against them for the reasons you stated. But if a hitter manages to sustain above-average offense despite the strikeouts (for Saltalamacchia, this means slightly above-average walk rates and excellent power), the fact that he also strikes out a lot shouldn't be taken as an additional black mark against him.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 15, 2013 16:50:58 GMT -5
Matt every game counts . You don't think so? We're not out of the woods . It's sickening all the hard work and these guys are breathing down our necks. We lost a couple of games against lefties and they were not blow outs. Okay I said my piece and you said yours. I think we're having sort of a disconnect here. Of course I believe every game counts, and it's going to be a battle to the end. I don't know if I would use the word "sickening" to describe the intensity/effort/standings situations, though. Do you mean it's sickening that our team tries hard, and then Farrell plays Drew against a left hander, thus disrespecting the hard work and drive that the team is exemplifying? There are tons of players around the league with everyday roles who have a dramatic platoon split. You can't really afford to have platoon situations, such as ours in left field (and the availability of one at first, although we've yet to use it), at more than a position or two. If we had a backup shortstop who happened to be right-handed and hit lefties at a decent clip, then that would help out our flexibility and productivity. Here's my point: We have a ~top 3 shortstop in the league, based on his overall numbers this season. His offense and defense have both been a plus for the season. We should bench/remove that player from the team because, for the next 15 days, he is going to start against maybe 4-6 lefties and struggle against them? Remember, if you bench him for Bogaerts before September rolls around, we have no backup second baseman. Our only 2B/3B/SS flexibility is 3 guys who play only one position, plus XB who can play SS and 3B. You force Holt off the roster, since Nava, Gomes and Carp aren't going anywhere. It doesn't make sense to me. Honestly, I'm surprised you're this down on Drew while giving Middlebrooks a pass. Will has been OK since returning, but if you're so concerned about putting the best team on the field and grabbing every win, I truly believe we're best off with Drew starting against all right-handers at shortstop, and essentially being in a platoon with Middlebrooks, with Xander rotating positions and letting WMB take some days at third against righties here and there. I just don't think it'd be the end of the world to wait until September for such a situation. Sickening was the wrong choice of words. Aggravating that they win this much and there not farther away from the Rays. . I just see a future with WMB and Xander. Where as Drew is a stopgap. Maybe it's not fair. If they were 10 up I guess you wouldn't hear me discuss this point.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 15, 2013 16:59:23 GMT -5
Brendan McGair ?@bwmcgair03 C David Ross feels that if everything checks out accordingly, he would be in line to rejoin the #redsox Monday in San Francisco.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 17:38:07 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 2m #RedSox: Ellsbury CF, Victorino RF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz DH, Gomes LF, Drew SS, Lavarnway C, Nava 1B, Middlebrooks 3B + Peavy This seems like an astonishingly reasonable lineup against a LHP. Is John Farrell sick? (Of course I would still have Pedroia hitting 1st/2nd and Victorino 5th or lower but I guess I'm never going to see that.)
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 18:35:57 GMT -5
What a ridiculously inconsistent strike zone.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 15, 2013 18:36:45 GMT -5
Its been this way for a while now, as it is with a lot of teams, but the Red Sox are just a completely different team on the road vs at home.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 15, 2013 18:38:22 GMT -5
Of all the times to sit Napoli, he does it against a lefty. To get Nava, who sucks against lefties into the game. Well, of course.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 18:40:47 GMT -5
By the way, seems like Rogers Center is a pretty good park for a flyball pitcher like Peavy, doesn't it?
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 18:50:23 GMT -5
Thanks Reyes.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 18:52:17 GMT -5
Nasty buzzard luck in this game.
That and this umpire is inconsistent pitch to pitch, which has to be maddening for the pitchers and hitters.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 15, 2013 19:10:32 GMT -5
Two of those pitches almost hit middlebrooks and he called them strikes...
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 19:15:30 GMT -5
Graphic incompetence behind the plate tonight.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 19:34:10 GMT -5
Wow, Peavy is really fired up. Love it.
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Post by jmei on Aug 15, 2013 19:34:29 GMT -5
Peavy's offspeed stuff is sharp tonight. He's gotten a bunch of swings-and-misses on the cutter and slider.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 19:44:00 GMT -5
Please can we not strand another man at 3rd? This is getting frustrating to watch.
ADDED: 9 hits and 1 run. This team is tempting fate in another country - not only is that a recipe for cheesy made-for-TV movies, it's a way to piss away a great pitching performance and lose the game.
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Post by jmei on Aug 15, 2013 19:44:44 GMT -5
That was incredible frustrating.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 15, 2013 19:45:09 GMT -5
Well our guys have to swing at everything close with this jackass ump out there.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 19:57:11 GMT -5
Clearwater just won their game. Well, 5-1 in the 7th vs. Seattle. Same diff.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 20:00:13 GMT -5
It's kind of like a soccer match tonight. Red Sox dominant, lots of possession, getting good flanks into the penalty box... but a fluke goal by the other side could tip the scales anytime.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 20:02:21 GMT -5
What's "soccer"? This is a sport?
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Post by jmei on Aug 15, 2013 20:04:05 GMT -5
God. Damnit.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 20:06:54 GMT -5
Just so fucking predictable.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 15, 2013 20:09:04 GMT -5
What's "soccer"? This is a sport? This for some undetermined amount of time
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Post by Guidas on Aug 15, 2013 20:10:03 GMT -5
This is now one pitch away from becoming a disaster.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 15, 2013 20:10:29 GMT -5
What's "soccer"? This is a sport? It's kind of like baseball except the ball is bigger and the players are constantly in motion rather than standing around most of the time.
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