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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 31, 2013 15:28:48 GMT -5
I love Drew he's an excellent player. In fact I've been thinking the Red Sox should give him a 4 year extension. Have to take it easy with Xander to avoid a fiasco.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 15:36:56 GMT -5
You never know with the Drew lovers on this board. I haven't seen that type of love for a 1 year rental player that is clearly just here for the money in a long time. Not sure why you hate Drew so much. He's been solid for the Sox, especially since the all-star break. Just here for the money, are freaking serious? Who isn't? Maybe Pedey, although he did get paid handsomely. Drew simply opted for a 1-yr deal for more money to establish the fact he's healthy and worthy of longer term deal. Same thing Beltre did here. And others have done elsewhere. A lot of players have turned down more money elsewhere to resign here. Or left other teams to come here and chosen Boston over other suitors. A lot of players came up through our farm system. If you seriously need me to cite examples of guys who loved playing here I can do that. If Pedroia is the only guy you can think of you're either trolling or haven't been following the team that long. My point isnt that Drew is bad... He is on track to deliver surplus value on his contract. But he is pretty bad against lefties. To bring up Xander and sit him against lefties is absurd. If they had kept Xander in Pawtucket... Fine. No reason to bring him up to use as a platoon player and then NOT use him as a platoon player. Drew is also gone after this year and Xander is a franchise player.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 31, 2013 15:49:28 GMT -5
In retrospect, maybe he should have used italics. I thought his sarcasm was obvious, though. You never know with the Drew lovers on this board. I haven't seen that type of love for a 1 year rental player that is clearly just here for the money in a long time. you realize he took LESS MOENY TO SIGN WITH THE SOX..... DO research next time before you make yourself look like an idiot
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 31, 2013 15:51:32 GMT -5
You never know with the Drew lovers on this board. I haven't seen that type of love for a 1 year rental player that is clearly just here for the money in a long time. Really? Also, not sure what a player being in Boston "just for the money" has to do with anything. Do his home runs count less because he hasn't elected to make John Henry that much richer?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 31, 2013 15:55:06 GMT -5
Not sure why you hate Drew so much. He's been solid for the Sox, especially since the all-star break. Just here for the money, are freaking serious? Who isn't? Maybe Pedey, although he did get paid handsomely. Drew simply opted for a 1-yr deal for more money to establish the fact he's healthy and worthy of longer term deal. Same thing Beltre did here. And others have done elsewhere. A lot of players have turned down more money elsewhere to resign here. Or left other teams to come here and chosen Boston over other suitors. A lot of players came up through our farm system. If you seriously need me to cite examples of guys who loved playing here I can do that. If Pedroia is the only guy you can think of you're either trolling or haven't been following the team that long. My point isnt that Drew is bad... He is on track to deliver surplus value on his contract. But he is pretty bad against lefties. To bring up Xander and sit him against lefties is absurd. If they had kept Xander in Pawtucket... Fine. No reason to bring him up to use as a platoon player and then NOT use him as a platoon player. Drew is also gone after this year and Xander is a franchise player. BC must be fine with drew getting a bulk of the playing time becuase if he thought bogarts should be playing more he would have brought it to JF attention dont you think? !?! EDIT 3: HE (drew) signed here to NOT be a platoon player.... and the sox are sticking to their word
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 16:00:15 GMT -5
A lot of players have turned down more money elsewhere to resign here. Or left other teams to come here and chosen Boston over other suitors. A lot of players came up through our farm system. If you seriously need me to cite examples of guys who loved playing here I can do that. If Pedroia is the only guy you can think of you're either trolling or haven't been following the team that long. My point isnt that Drew is bad... He is on track to deliver surplus value on his contract. But he is pretty bad against lefties. To bring up Xander and sit him against lefties is absurd. If they had kept Xander in Pawtucket... Fine. No reason to bring him up to use as a platoon player and then NOT use him as a platoon player. Drew is also gone after this year and Xander is a franchise player. Yes and drew has been one of the better SS in the AL this season... But we should be quick to bench him after all he has done for us this season... WHAT A NICE PICTURE THAT WOULD SEND FOR FUTURE FA!!! ."yes <insert player here> your a really good player in the last year of your contract but we wil bench you" We hope you have no hard feelings and we hope it does not fuck up your future contract after the season. BC must be fine with drew getting a bulk of the playing time becuase if he thought bogarts should be playing more he would have brought it to JF attention dont you think? !?! EDIT 3: HE (drew) signed here to NOT be a platoon player.... and the sox are sticking to their word Re-read my 2nd and 3rd paragraphs. Also I do remember Beltre obviously. But he wasn't displacing a prospect like Bogaerts and he was having a monster season. Not hitting .190 against lefties with an obvious platoon player sitting on the bench. If you need Drew to play... Fine. Just leave Xander at AAA and let him get his at bats. Just don't bring him up and toy with the head of our top prospect as to not damage Drew's FA value. Every player needs rest every so often anyway.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 31, 2013 16:31:01 GMT -5
I know this is a website about Red Sox prospects, but you do know that Bogie won't DIE because of the lack of whatever abritraty number of PA's you think he should be having, right? And that missing, what, 5 games at AAA won't stall his development, right?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 16:40:34 GMT -5
I know this is a website about Red Sox prospects, but you do know that Bogie won't DIE because of the lack of whatever abritraty number of PA's you think he should be having, right? And that missing, what, 5 games at AAA won't stall his development, right? I'd love to hear your rationalization for playing Drew against the lefty and Xander against the righty.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Aug 31, 2013 16:57:21 GMT -5
FWIW, Beltre actually wanted to come back.
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 31, 2013 17:05:01 GMT -5
I know this is a website about Red Sox prospects, but you do know that Bogie won't DIE because of the lack of whatever abritraty number of PA's you think he should be having, right? And that missing, what, 5 games at AAA won't stall his development, right? I'd love to hear your rationalization for playing Drew against the lefty and Xander against the righty. Um, Danks is a lefty? I agree that he should be playing against every LHP and some RHP too. I think we'll get to that point before their season is over.
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Post by soxcentral on Aug 31, 2013 17:47:01 GMT -5
FWIW, Beltre actually wanted to come back. Yeah, and that might have been the single worst decision of the entire Epstein era. Beltre staying would have kept Youk at 1B, likely avoiding the string of injuries that followed. And it would have nullified the Gonzo trade, thus keeping Rizzo/Kelly/Fuentes in Boston or put into a separate deal.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Aug 31, 2013 18:05:44 GMT -5
FWIW, Beltre actually wanted to come back. Yeah, and that might have been the single worst decision of the entire Epstein era. Beltre staying would have kept Youk at 1B, likely avoiding the string of injuries that followed. And it would have nullified the Gonzo trade, thus keeping Rizzo/Kelly/Fuentes in Boston or put into a separate deal. We drafted Swihart and JBJ with the compensation picks we got for Beltre.
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Post by mredsox89 on Aug 31, 2013 18:50:50 GMT -5
Hell of an at-bat by Xander. Down 0-2, ends up with a 9 pitch walk to turn the order over to Ells
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Post by mredsox89 on Aug 31, 2013 19:16:18 GMT -5
Sox taking advantage of a bad team making bad plays that have led to the entirety of the run scoring so far
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Post by jmei on Aug 31, 2013 19:16:26 GMT -5
I know this is a website about Red Sox prospects, but you do know that Bogie won't DIE because of the lack of whatever abritraty number of PA's you think he should be having, right? And that missing, what, 5 games at AAA won't stall his development, right? I'd love to hear your rationalization for playing Drew against the lefty and Xander against the righty. I agree that Xander should be playing more versus lefties, but I think you're making a way bigger deal of it than it deserves. Since he's been up, Xander has missed what, three or four starts versus lefty starters? Yeah, that's an inefficient use of your roster, but I don't think it's worth all the spilled ink, akin to less than ideal batting orders.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 31, 2013 19:48:31 GMT -5
Not necessarily true. A couple extra weeks of getting used to the major league routine (scouting reports, video room, etc.) might come in handy when the playoffs roll around. Word. Bogie is in the majors to get him acclimated and some AB's here and there. No need to throw him in the fire, especially after the JBJ fiasco. That's a lot of drama, dude. The idea that a two-week dry spell for anyone, let alone a new player, is some sort of fiasco is the brand of soap opera that plays regularly in the Globe, and with the local talking heads. It's pure bull. You don't need to buy into that. An endless stream of players has started their career that way, and a countless number of them have come along just fine. Bradley will also.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 20:04:27 GMT -5
Word. Bogie is in the majors to get him acclimated and some AB's here and there. No need to throw him in the fire, especially after the JBJ fiasco. That's a lot of drama, dude. The idea that a two-week dry spell for anyone, let alone a new player, is some sort of fiasco is the brand of soap opera that plays regularly in the Globe, and with the local talking heads. It's pure bull. You don't need to buy into that. An endless stream of players has started their career that way, and a countless number of them have come along just fine. Bradley will also. Some of those games were one run games though.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 31, 2013 20:13:59 GMT -5
Don't think the layoff has hurt Bogaerts all that much...
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 20:15:06 GMT -5
Xander 2-2 with a walk against a lefty.. Who would've thunk it?
You Drew guys can just go buy a pink drew jersey and call it a night. I'm at the game right now enjoying the bogaerts show.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 31, 2013 20:25:50 GMT -5
Don't think the layoff has hurt Bogaerts all that much... No it didn't. Really fun to watch him hit. Looks so smooth and comfortable.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Aug 31, 2013 20:34:07 GMT -5
You Drew guys can just go buy a pink drew jersey and call it a night. I'm at the game right now enjoying the bogaerts show. Who are you even talking about?
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Post by kwilly on Aug 31, 2013 20:46:14 GMT -5
Xander 2-2 with a walk against a lefty.. Who would've thunk it? You Drew guys can just go buy a pink drew jersey and call it a night. I'm at the game right now enjoying the bogaerts show. Can you please become a dcnatsfan?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 31, 2013 21:07:52 GMT -5
Xander 2-2 with a walk against a lefty.. Who would've thunk it? You Drew guys can just go buy a pink drew jersey and call it a night. I'm at the game right now enjoying the bogaerts show. Can you please become a dcnatsfan? No im all set. I wear my Sox gear to Nats games regularly though. Who are you to tell me to be a Nats fan? I literally grew up in Portland and have been a Sox fan my whole life. Thats so funny. I just flew up here for the series. I just care about the future of this team. Go ahead and do us all a favor and become a fan of whatever team Drew signs with in the off season buddy.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 31, 2013 21:42:44 GMT -5
Can you please become a dcnatsfan? No im all set. I wear my Sox gear to Nats games regularly though. Who are you to tell me to be a Nats fan? I literally grew up in Portland and have been a Sox fan my whole life. Thats so funny. I just flew up here for the series. I just care about the future of this team. Go ahead and do us all a favor and become a fan of whatever team Drew signs with in the off season buddy. Not metaphorically?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 31, 2013 21:46:33 GMT -5
Xander 2-2 with a walk against a lefty.. Who would've thunk it? You Drew guys can just go buy a pink drew jersey and call it a night. I'm at the game right now enjoying the bogaerts show. your just trolling now......
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