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Post by jmei on Sept 2, 2013 14:37:58 GMT -5
And that's why sacrifice bunting is stupid.
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Post by bluechip on Sept 2, 2013 14:39:25 GMT -5
And that's why sacrifice bunting is stupid. Giving away outs is generally very stupid. That just demonstrated that sac bunts are additionally stupid because they aren't guaranteed to actually work.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 2, 2013 14:39:40 GMT -5
#FarrellTime.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 14:41:30 GMT -5
No only was it stupid*, the guy he had bunting virtually never does it, and has one of the highest slugging percentages on the team vs. RHP.
Another complete squander.
*"If you play for only one run that's all you'll get. If that" Earl Weaver
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 2, 2013 14:43:54 GMT -5
But you know people are stupid for getting on Farrell.
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Post by bluechip on Sept 2, 2013 14:43:56 GMT -5
It was stupid because salty has one of the lowest ground ball percentages on the team: 31.2%.
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Post by bluechip on Sept 2, 2013 14:46:12 GMT -5
Let me amend that. Salty has the fifth lowest gb% of guys with 300 PAs in the majors.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 2, 2013 14:51:15 GMT -5
It's over guy see ya.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 14:55:28 GMT -5
Sox needed to win this game to get the series. Just BBIP unlucky on both offense and defense. That and a bad call by Farrell on the bunt. Just stupid.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 2, 2013 15:05:33 GMT -5
No only was it stupid*, the guy he had bunting virtually never does it, and has one of the highest slugging percentages on the team vs. RHP. Another complete squander. * "If you play for only one run that's all you'll get. If that" Earl WeaverIIRC, unless it's a one-run game or less, there is literally no situation in which a sac bunt increases your chances to win the game. The Detroit bullpen is shaky, though. Not giving up on this one yet.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 2, 2013 15:14:28 GMT -5
102-102-101 from Rondon. Great goggly-moggly...
Honestly, why even swing? Dude threw one strike to Ortiz.
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Post by jmei on Sept 2, 2013 16:24:13 GMT -5
On the bright side, Daniel Nava is now hitting .300/.387/.445. That's the fifth highest OBP among qualified AL hitters.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 16:24:24 GMT -5
No only was it stupid*, the guy he had bunting virtually never does it, and has one of the highest slugging percentages on the team vs. RHP. Another complete squander. * "If you play for only one run that's all you'll get. If that" Earl WeaverIIRC, unless it's a one-run game or less, there is literally no situation in which a sac bunt increases your chances to win the game. The Detroit bullpen is shaky, though. Not giving up on this one yet. Weaver said a one run or tie game late was the only time to sac bunt. He also said 'The sacrifice bunt should be stuck in the back of some closet you forgot existed."
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 16:26:19 GMT -5
Go Angels.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 19:53:10 GMT -5
btw, I know we're under 100 PAs but Middlebrooks seems to have adjusted pretty well so far. Everyone has the same book on him they had at the beginning of the year, but he seems to be chasing fewer bad pitches and cut down on his swing just a bit. I don't expect these numbers to hold wOBA .377, BBIP .405), but at least he's looking more comfortable (or less lost?) at the plate.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 2, 2013 20:38:49 GMT -5
I remember some people saying Webster didn't look "intimidating" on the mound and just didn't inspire confidence because of his posture. These people should watch Chris Archer pitch from time to time, he looks downright goofy on the mound.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 2, 2013 21:28:19 GMT -5
Was there today. I was very surprised at the number of Tigers fans there, but as someone mentioned, they probably grabbed tickets when they went on sale as a Labor Day weekend vacation - do things in Boston over the weekend, see a matinee on Monday, back to Detroit for work Tuesday.
Rondon was just silly. Didn't throw a fastball that was below 100 on the Fenway gun (which seemed legit for the other pitchers) and his slider was 90-91. If he can throw strikes, he'll become an absolute weapon.
And that Iglesias play... just... I miss him so much........ <begins sobbing>
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 2, 2013 21:43:33 GMT -5
I just don't get the criticism of Farrell as a tactician. Why wouldn't you want to sacrifice when the opposing pitcher has just given up his hardest-hit ball of the game and then walked his first hitter out of his last 18 faced, the hitter up at the plate is better than average and the two least good hitters in the lineup are following, and the hitter has gone 1288 PA since his last successful sacrifice over four years ago, and has a GDP rate 27% below league average, and is 5 for 10 with 2 2B and a HR in his career against the pitcher (with the outs including a LD to LF and a FB to deep CF), and almost all his improvement at the plate in his breakout season has come against groundball pitchers like this one, and a successful bunt will reduce your chance of winning the game from 41% to 38%?
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Post by Guidas on Sept 2, 2013 22:00:17 GMT -5
Angels up 5-1 in the 4th.
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Post by jmei on Sept 2, 2013 22:00:28 GMT -5
Angels up 5-1 on the Rays.
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2013 22:50:16 GMT -5
GO LA of AA
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2013 22:50:27 GMT -5
7-2!
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 2, 2013 22:54:34 GMT -5
IIRC, unless it's a one-run game or less, there is literally no situation in which a sac bunt increases your chances to win the game. The Detroit bullpen is shaky, though. Not giving up on this one yet. Weaver said a one run or tie game late was the only time to sac bunt. He also said 'The sacrifice bunt should be stuck in the back of some closet you forgot existed." Not to mention Weaver managed a team (s) that many years was filled with pathetic offensive people throughout the lineup (Mark Belanger) and he still disliked the bunt. His favorite play was the "3R HR". His teams were built around outstanding defense and pitching.
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Post by danr on Sept 3, 2013 10:15:33 GMT -5
Pathetic offensive people? Really? Have you not heard of Frank and Brooks Robinson, Cal Ripken, Boog Powell, Davey Johnson, Eddie Murray, Brady Anderson, Ken Singleton, Bobby Grich, to name the better ones? The great Oriole teams were very well balanced. Belanger was not typical, except for his fielding. He was the Iglesias of his time. With Brooks Robinson at 3B, it was hard to hit aground ball through the left side of the infield.
Weaver did love the 3-run HR, but his teams were about a lot more than that.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 3, 2013 10:21:55 GMT -5
102-102-101 from Rondon. Great goggly-moggly... Honestly, why even swing? Dude threw one strike to Ortiz. Hit 103 on the Fenway gun as well.
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