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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 4, 2013 21:21:31 GMT -5
For those who agonize about the Sox's sometimes less-than-stellar hitting with men on base and guys left on base, note that tonight we have scored 18 and have 2 LOB the whole night. Bet you don't see that very often.
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Post by bluechip on Sept 4, 2013 21:27:19 GMT -5
Napoli really got behind that one.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 4, 2013 21:27:32 GMT -5
For those who agonize about the Sox's sometimes less-than-stellar hitting with men on base and guys left on base, note that tonight we have scored 18 and have 2 LOB the whole night. Bet you don't see that very often. I agree with ancientsoxfogey - we need to save some runs for New York.
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Post by atzar on Sept 4, 2013 21:30:49 GMT -5
Here is some fun with numbers: Entering this game the two top run differentials in baseball belonged to Detroit (+167) and Boston (+138). Right now, Boston has a run differential of 152. Detroit has a run differential of 153. And there you go. Overcame a 29-run disadvantage in one night. Wonder how many times that has happened.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 4, 2013 21:38:08 GMT -5
They'll struggle to score tomorrow. Doesn't that seem to always happen?
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 4, 2013 21:43:11 GMT -5
They'll struggle to score tomorrow. Doesn't that seem to always happen? I'd be more worried about it if Lackey were on the mound.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 4, 2013 21:45:33 GMT -5
They'll struggle to score tomorrow. Doesn't that seem to always happen? I'd be more worried about it if Lackey were on the mound. That happens naturally.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 4, 2013 21:54:53 GMT -5
Great win. Unless you're a Tampa or Tiger fan. Then it was somewhat ignominious.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 4, 2013 22:03:16 GMT -5
What a great butt-kicking by the Sox tonight. Eight home runs and 20 runs scored for the first time in ten years (and I remember that night against the Marlins - 14 runs in the first inning and a brawl later on. Too bad I was at Fenway the night afterwards when the Sox blew a 9-2 eighth inning lead and Florida's Mike Lowell hit a HR into the bullpen off Brandon Lyon to beat the Sox with 2 outs in the 9th).
Suffice to say the Tigers won't be starting Rick Porcello if the two teams meet up in a playoff series.
Meanwhile John Lackey has to be thinking that tonight the Sox scored two months of run support for him. Almost feel really bad for him until I remember how well supported by the offense he was in 2011 when his ERA was 6.41 or whatever it was.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2013 22:35:51 GMT -5
Serious question: what would Dempster's role be if the Sox were to make the playoffs? He's not good enough to start for this team, and I don't really see his stuff playing up much in the bullpen. Hopefully he gets really good at handing out the water. To get back to this real quick, he gets left off the roster, right? Probably?
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Post by nhdave on Sept 4, 2013 22:39:16 GMT -5
nice going away present for the tigers (with an assist from mayor tommy) kidding... but I think this is good, sox are showing some toughness. early in the season, longoria stated the sox were kind of scary. thought that was telling given that the rays are such a thorn in the sox side.
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Post by jrffam05 on Sept 4, 2013 22:44:19 GMT -5
Pedroia and ellsbury are only regular starters without double digit hrs, but they should get there.
Is that a record?
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Post by bluechip on Sept 4, 2013 22:59:52 GMT -5
Pedroia and ellsbury are only regular starters without double digit hrs, but they should get there. Is that a record? They last did it in 2003.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 4, 2013 23:19:25 GMT -5
Serious question: what would Dempster's role be if the Sox were to make the playoffs? He's not good enough to start for this team, and I don't really see his stuff playing up much in the bullpen. Hopefully he gets really good at handing out the water. To get back to this real quick, he gets left off the roster, right? Probably? I could see him taking a spot in the bullpen. Obviously he ain't getting a rotation spot.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2013 23:36:38 GMT -5
Serious question: what would Dempster's role be if the Sox were to make the playoffs? He's not good enough to start for this team, and I don't really see his stuff playing up much in the bullpen. Hopefully he gets really good at handing out the water. To get back to this real quick, he gets left off the roster, right? Probably? The entire pitching staff will be an interesting question come playoff time. Probably worthy of a thread..... While it's a lot to assume that Buchholz will come back strong after the long layoff, but if he does come back then you will have to move two starters to the bullpen in the playoffs, then decide which one (maybe even two) of the lefties gets left off the roster entirely.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 5, 2013 2:24:21 GMT -5
To get back to this real quick, he gets left off the roster, right? Probably? The entire pitching staff will be an interesting question come playoff time. Probably worthy of a thread..... While it's a lot to assume that Buchholz will come back strong after the long layoff, but if he does come back then you will have to move two starters to the bullpen in the playoffs, then decide which one (maybe even two) of the lefties gets left off the roster entirely. The one or two starters left out when the 4-man rotation sets for the playoffs do NOT necessarily have a place on the playoff roster. The playoff roster will need the 11 or 12 best pitchers for their jobs. Excess starters do not just get bumped to the pen. If an icon like Wakefield can be left off a playoff roster, Dempster for sure can be left off.
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Post by okin15 on Sept 5, 2013 9:22:06 GMT -5
I assumed that the Sox saw Dempster and Doubront as upgrades over that back end of our 'pen. I'd like to see that group include Uehara, Tazawa, Breslow, and Workman for sure. After that, it's take two from Thornton, Doubront and Britton as your 2nd & 3rd LHP. I think you need a 4th RH reliever, and I don't see a better option than Demps. Furthermore, I think there's some upside with Doubront and Dempster, in that they could maybe reach back for a little more, and both throw strikes. Both have 'pen experience, though I remember Doubront at one point said he couldn't get ready fast enough.
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Post by elguapo on Sept 5, 2013 10:20:10 GMT -5
It would certainly be helpful to have a long reliever in case of an early exit.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 5, 2013 22:40:15 GMT -5
It would certainly be helpful to have a long reliever in case of an early exit. Workman.
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Post by okin15 on Sept 6, 2013 11:24:39 GMT -5
Isn't Workman worth more than that?
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