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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2013 19:09:48 GMT -5
Screw Mariano Rivera - he gave the Red Sox more pain and suffering than any Yankee since Babe Ruth.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 15, 2013 19:41:47 GMT -5
Rays had a 4-2 lead in the top of the 8th with the bases full and 1 out, didn't score. Joel Peralta got the first two guys in the bottom of the 8th, gave up a Ryan Doumit HR, 1B, BB, and Josmil Pinto HR. After blowing 90.8% and 90.2%, they go to the top of the 9th trailing 6-4, with an 8.0% Win Probability. And it's over. O's won, Royals lost, Rangers trail, and the Indians are in a 3:15+ rain delay. Indians up 6-1 in the 8th. If they win, they pull within 1/2 game of both the Rangers and the Rays. C'mon, Tito! Good lord, the Red Sox are just continuing to humiliate the Yankees.
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 19:43:37 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply it was magic. I was trying to communicate that the sum was greater than the individual parts and that it wasn't easily represented just by the conventional numbers most people look at. The lineup doesn't look as impressive as maybe a Detroit's or a Baltimore's upon a quick look but when you look behind the curtain ( under the hood so to speak ) the talent is there. The performance is obviously real and quantifiable. It is more subtle. Even down to HBP statistics and such. Steal percentage. Overall # of scoring opportunities created. It is an extension of moneyball in many ways. Taking it to another level, right down to the number of pitches seen. To a lot of observers it probably looks like magic. I don't understand your "sum is greater than the individual parts" narrative. The individual parts of Boston's lineup are excellent, and much better than those of Detroit or Baltimore. It shouldn't be a mystery or require you to do anything more than look at OPS-type statistics. For instance, let's compare the wRC+ of Boston's starting lineup and those of Detroit and Baltimore, ranked from highest to lowest (so first row is each team's best starter regardless of position, second row is their second-best starter, etc.), with Boston as the first column, Baltimore as the second, and Detroit as the third: 151 173 195 127 123 124 126 106 115 119 105 113 111 103 111 111 087 107 111 084 097 105 081 090 086 079 083 So, yeah, Big Papi isn't quite as good as Chris Davis or Miguel Cabrera, but at literally every other batting spot, Boston has a better player than Baltimore or Detroit.
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 20:01:57 GMT -5
ESPN just had a pretty good segment on how Buchholz was missing up a lot since he returned, and it's definitely showing tonight. He's been getting good results so far, but he's been missing his spots pretty frequently and leaving pitches up.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2013 20:08:28 GMT -5
They give any reason why? Feel. release point, push off leg, etc?
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 20:20:17 GMT -5
I think they mentioned that he's bending his back leg too much and isn't standing straight enough through his delivery. They also mentioned that he isn't confident enough in his shoulder and is releasing the ball too early.
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 20:21:09 GMT -5
But they seem to think that it's mental/mechanics-related, not that he's still injured.
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Post by semperfisox on Sept 15, 2013 20:21:13 GMT -5
buchholz looks bad.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2013 20:25:22 GMT -5
Confidence in the shoulder seems like odd speculation by ESPN as the FB has looked fine for the most part. It's the curve that's going high, and the splitter's (at least I think it's a splitter) bouncing into the ground. Change-up looks fine. He could pitch off FB/Change all night and just show me one of the other pitches to be "effectively wild."
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Post by ray88h66 on Sept 15, 2013 20:25:28 GMT -5
He's getting away with it, but Clay looks bad. Hope his shoulder isn't hurting him. He's really frustrated.
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 20:27:59 GMT -5
Eh, I think he's been missing a lot with his fastball, too. His best pitch seems to me to be his cutter (which ESPN has been calling his slider). Despite the success so far, his command has been very sub-par and he doesn't look as good as he did earlier in the year.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 15, 2013 20:38:37 GMT -5
That was funny.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2013 20:38:44 GMT -5
Bradley will not be batting lead-off next year.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 15, 2013 20:40:58 GMT -5
I'm repeating myself, but Orel Hershiser is amazing as a color commentator.
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Post by huskies15 on Sept 15, 2013 21:09:26 GMT -5
The sox propensity for the k just came back to bite them there with the bases juiced.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 15, 2013 21:10:19 GMT -5
Bradley will not be batting lead-off next year. He should, in Pawtucket
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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2013 21:13:23 GMT -5
Wait - Thornton is warming? Farrell must be serious about trying to get the Yankees into the playoffs.
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Post by ray88h66 on Sept 15, 2013 21:15:46 GMT -5
That inning was encouraging to see from Clay.
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Post by semperfisox on Sept 15, 2013 21:20:10 GMT -5
come on bradley, calm the fuck down.
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 21:21:00 GMT -5
By the way, good that Victorino is getting these next two days off. I'd even give him a third on Tuesday and maybe more.
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Post by station13 on Sept 15, 2013 21:21:33 GMT -5
Does Bradley carry a piano on his back or something?
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Post by jchang on Sept 15, 2013 21:27:23 GMT -5
Ortiz feelt no need to boost his obp with a hbp
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Post by jmei on Sept 15, 2013 21:27:43 GMT -5
Daniel Nava, now hitting .307/.393/.453 for a 131 wRC+. That's third amongst all left fielders, behind only Mike Trout (178) and Matt Holliday (134). This has been your daily "Daniel Nava is a good player" update.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 15, 2013 21:36:29 GMT -5
Daniel Nava, now hitting .307/.393/.453 for a 131 wRC+. That's third amongst all left fielders, behind only Mike Trout (178) and Matt Holliday (134). This has been your daily "Daniel Nava is a good player" update. But at some point in the future, he won't be good anymore. This of course differentiates him from all other baseball players.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 15, 2013 21:46:01 GMT -5
Does Bradley carry a piano on his back or something? I want so much to be totally wrong about him but I will be honest I am not seeing it. I have seen possibly every MLB at bat and I havent seen anything that stands out. Please somebody who has seen him in the minors set me straight.
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