Boston Celtics 2013-14 Season

Horrible win.

I think they have far too much talent to get a lottery pick. They look like at least a .500 team until Rondo comes back, which will only help. I find it hard to believe this team stays out of the playoffs. 

Horrific win today....Showing lack of #want.

On a more serious note its looking like a banner year. Wiggins, Randle and Parker are already impressing.

This is so stinking off topic, but got to post it.. Hammer it at will JMEI...

My main DR is an old Celtics fan, as was I for years until McHale, Parrish and Bird finally retired. He's got this really cool picture of mcHale putting in this layup over Jeff Turner of the Magic. Think it's like their 1st year in the league.. Everytime go to see him, we start naming off every guy in the picture, you can barely see many of them and we remember all the glory years.. Hondo Havlicek, joJo White, DJ, Russell. Think I put him way behind every time go to see him.

And it sucks because this was the year to blow. The NBA is the worst.

Rajon Rondo for Shumpert.....

What joke this was it lasted a second.

Okay, I found this rubbish and just had to post:

www.latinopost.com/articles/2117/20131216/nba-nba-trade-rumors-2014-boston-celtics-rajon-rondo-rajon-rondo-trade-nba-trade-rumors-sacramento-kings-trade-rumors-boston-celtics-trade-rumors-news-nba-trade-rumors.htm

Rondo for Thomas, McLemore, Thornton and Thompson PLUS 2 future 1sts?? (Techincally couldn't work without Boston throwing in some salary to stay below the luxury tax threshold).

Ha!

Yeah, it was so crazy I just had to see if anyone else saw it.

I agree. The tanking isn't working when a) a lot of other teams are tanking; b) some teams that were supposed to be successful are quite bad and c) both the Eastern Conference and the Atlantic Division are terrible.

My question would become whether or not you'd do Green (some suggest he's the target for Houston; others that he's involved it's to a 3rd team) instead of Bass. I like Green for what he is but he's being asked to be more than what he is. If you could make a trade for Asik you'd have

PG Rondo (Elite playmaker)
SG Bradley (Defender who can score some points - would love to see more consistency from 3)
C Asik (Above Avg defender in the post - which is hard to come by)
PF Sullinger (looking like the lottery talent he once was projected to be)
SF Green

Given the other 4, I'd want the SF position to be my go-to guy night in an night out (Pierce of old, for example)

You add in a strong bench and that's a nice core for the future (I think Olynyk could be a nice 3rd big - doubt he can be a starter, especially at the 5).

Back on the tanking topic, folks seem to be suggesting that Danny will wait until Feb to decide the ultimate course. Things could change if Brooklyn and New York (especially if getting Chandler back changes their ways). Cleveland, too, could turn it around given some of their talent.

I, too, am not sure about trading Green but I was thinking of reason 3 you trade for Asik (he gives you that defensive stopper in the middle for your future core as well). I agree that the dropoff is significant which means you could still go into tank mode should the situation change quickly (but now you have a piece of the puzzle, defensively, at least). If Lee can't play SF, you could swing another deal to get a SF.

Meanwhile, if we assume Sully and Rondo (currently a wild card, of course) as the scoring big and elite distributor respectively, then one of the swingmen needs to be a go-to scorer. While Green looks like that guy on some nights, I don't see it consistently. Meanwhile, even outside the lottery, the draft looks SF heavy so you could replace Green with a young guy too.

Don't get me wrong, I think your arguments are very compelling (maybe more than the above) and I'm not sure I'd do it either. Just thinking it out loud.

I don't think it's at all easy to get a SF who is as much or more of a "go-to scorer" than Green is, and I think you're underrating him somewhat. Green is the 7th highest scoring small forward in the league right now (behind Lebron, Durant, George, Gay, Deng, and Parsons). You're certainly not getting a player of that caliber outside the lottery (unless you get super lucky), even in this stacked draft class. Yeah, scoring wings are probably easier to get than defensive centers, but I discussed above why I think Asik's contract makes him less of an asset than Green. I think Green for Asik is mostly a lateral move, and if I'm Danny, I'm only making moves that make this team clearly better or clearly worse.

Donny Marshall has no clue what he's talking about - the guy is too busy fawning over Ray to know anything.

I don't think you trade Rondo unless you can a legitimately fair package in return. And since there's almost no chance of the Celtics getting a fair package in return, you probably just hold on to him and let this season play out.

What a complete and utter disaster Stevens has been so far. With Salty gone, he's propelled himself to my least favorite Boston sports figure at the moment.

I would do that, yes. For this year, Asik/Sully are your 4/5 with Olynyk backing up both. Humphries is your 4th (or make him, if healthy, your backup to increase his trade value). Following years, it's basically the same with a 4th big needed.

For Houston's sake, I think a 3-way makes the most sense. Cleveland getting Green; Houston getting Varejao (can start at either 4 or 5 and be a very good backup at either) and Boston getting Asik (there would have to be some other parts moving around).

Of course, then you get into the whole trading Green issue which we covered yesterday.