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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 19, 2014 9:06:03 GMT -5
6/19 Red Sox (RHP Jake Peavy 1-4 4.53) @ Athletics (LHP Scott Kazmir 8-2 2.05) 10:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI6/20 Red Sox (LHP Felix Doubront 2-4 5.12) @ Athletics (RHP Jesse Chavez 6-4 2.93) 10:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI6/21 Red Sox (RHP Rubby De La Rosa 2-2 2.84) @ Athletics (TBD) 4:05 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI6/22 Red Sox (LHP Jon Lester 8-7 3.20) @ Athletics (LHP Tommy Milone) 4:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 12:27:05 GMT -5
Not today but soon this is the lineup I want to see.
(1) Mookie Betts (CF) (2) Brock Holt (LF) (3) Xander Bogaerts (3B) (4) David Ortiz (DH) (5) Mike Napoli (1B) (6) A.J. Pierzynski (C) (7) Dustin Pedroia (2B) (8) Stephen Drew (SS) (9) Shane Victorino (RF)
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Post by jmei on Jun 19, 2014 12:41:50 GMT -5
The core of this Red Sox team has become very right-handed of late, as the only lefties signed beyond this season who project to play a big part on the major league club are Ortiz, Nava, Holt, and Bradley.
I think I'd prefer: Betts (CF), Bogaerts (3B), Pedroia (2B), Ortiz (DH), Napoli (1B), Nava/Gomes (LF), Drew/Middlebrooks (SS), Pierzynski (C), Victorino/Holt (RF).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 13:35:13 GMT -5
Left handed bats are going to be a problem going forward. Other than Markakis possibly being available, I don't like what I see in free agency this offseason. That's one reason I'm pulling for Holt. The other, of course, being his socks. Regardless of what happens with Holt though, if Pedroia doesn't pick things up a bit, I don't think it would be sacrilegious to move him down in the order. The last year and a half hasn't been kind to him versus righties.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 19, 2014 14:04:17 GMT -5
Tough crowd. I read a lot of whining about how the 3 games were won during sweep of the Twins. Some people need to check themselves. I called it.....41-40.....that means 7 out of the next 9.
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Post by jmei on Jun 19, 2014 14:07:18 GMT -5
I'm not totally opposed to the idea of moving Pedroia down in the order if it becomes clear that his true talent level is his 2013-14 form, but I think it's too early to conclude that so far. Steamer projects him to be our third best hitter going forward, and ZiPS has him fourth. If he's still hitting this poorly at the end of the year, it's probably time to reconsider.
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Post by marrcus on Jun 19, 2014 14:53:29 GMT -5
If RS could take two I'd say thank you very much for the split. I didn't realize Kazmir has it going this well (2.05). Quite a reclamation?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 15:02:25 GMT -5
Tough crowd. I read a lot of whining about how the 3 games were won during sweep of the Twins. Some people need to check themselves. I called it.....41-40.....that means 7 out of the next 9. +1
As a Sox fan I was embarrassed at some of the stuff I read during yesterday's game thread. When it's apparent the game is going to be a pitchers' duel, people need to seriously put their homer boners on ice and just enjoy the game for what it is. And it's not just Lackey. Appreciate the fact that Sox starters have not given up more than three runs in 12 straight home games. That ties a 99-year-old record from the 1915 season. IF this team reaches the playoffs, it's going to be due in no small part to the impressive performances most of the staff are turning in. 2-1, 3-2, 1-0...who gives a crap as long as it's a win.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 19, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5
Tough crowd. I read a lot of whining about how the 3 games were won during sweep of the Twins. Some people need to check themselves. I called it.....41-40.....that means 7 out of the next 9.So in other words, you didn't call it.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 19, 2014 16:18:07 GMT -5
Tough crowd. I read a lot of whining about how the 3 games were won during sweep of the Twins. Some people need to check themselves. I called it.....41-40.....that means 7 out of the next 9.So in other words, you didn't haven't call it just yet. Fixed. Why don't you let it play out.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 19, 2014 17:20:15 GMT -5
#RedSox at OAK: Holt RF, Bogaerts 3B, Pedroia 2B, Napoli 1B, Pzynski DH, Gomes LF, Drew SS, Ross C, Bradley CF, Peavy
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 19, 2014 17:31:18 GMT -5
Is AJP's 22 wRC+ vs. LHP really the best we could do at DH in the 5th spot?
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Post by jmei on Jun 19, 2014 17:38:03 GMT -5
Who else are you going to play there? Ortiz is getting the day off, and Nava/Herrera/Cecchini are all probably inferior options. He should probably hit behind Gomes, but Farrell loves his L/R alternation, and Pierzynski is probably still a better hitter versus lefties than Drew or Bradley (and maybe even Ross, considering how quickly his bat speed has eroded), so at worst he's only hitting one or two spots higher than he really should.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 19, 2014 17:43:10 GMT -5
Who else are you going to play there? Ortiz is getting the day off, and Nava/Herrera/Cecchini are all probably inferior options. I know it sucks. Think I'd rather put Cecchini in actually. He doesn't have horrible splits in the minors. At the minimum, AJ doesn't need to be 5th.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 19, 2014 17:45:10 GMT -5
Is AJP's 22 wRC+ vs. LHP really the best we could do at DH in the 5th spot? Yes.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 19, 2014 20:25:44 GMT -5
Who else are you going to play there? Ortiz is getting the day off, and Nava/Herrera/Cecchini are all probably inferior options. He should probably hit behind Gomes, but Farrell loves his L/R alternation, and Pierzynski is probably still a better hitter versus lefties than Drew or Bradley (and maybe even Ross, considering how quickly his bat speed has eroded), so at worst he's only hitting one or two spots higher than he really should. An opportunity to let Napoli be DH ... and rest, rather than give AJ a night off behind the plate. that prob puts NAVA at 1B.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 19, 2014 20:49:26 GMT -5
Maybe if they were going to give Ortiz a day off against a LHP they should have called up Hassan instead of Cecchini?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 19, 2014 20:58:52 GMT -5
Maybe if they were going to give Ortiz a day off against a LHP they should have called up Hassan instead of Cecchini? I know you saw Hassan the last time.....No way...I'd rather have the veteran hack his way to a couple of seeing eye singles
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 19, 2014 21:00:33 GMT -5
Maybe if they were going to give Ortiz a day off against a LHP they should have called up Hassan instead of Cecchini? I know you saw Hassan the last time.....No way...I'd rather have the veteran hack his way to a couple of seeing eye singles Uhm yeah I saw him for all of 8 PA. Not being a professional scout I'm going to reserve judgement until I see a few more.
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Post by jmei on Jun 19, 2014 21:02:15 GMT -5
Maybe if they were going to give Ortiz a day off against a LHP they should have called up Hassan instead of Cecchini? Well, better they give Ortiz a day off against a lefty than against a righty, right? And while playing the platoon splits is a good idea in the abstract, I'm not sure Hassan is any better an option versus LHP than Pierzynski is, especially when you consider that whichever one of them plays is likely to also get a plate appearance versus a righty reliever at some point in the game.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 19, 2014 21:05:04 GMT -5
So, Scott Kazmir sports a 3.47 SIERA and a 3.55 xFIP. That's not as good as his ERA, but it's still better than any Twins starter except Phil Hughes.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 19, 2014 21:07:32 GMT -5
Well, better they give Ortiz a day off against a lefty than against a righty, right? And while playing the platoon splits is a good idea in the abstract, I'm not sure Hassan is any better an option versus LHP than Pierzynski is, especially when you consider that whichever one of them plays is likely to also get a plate appearance versus a righty reliever at some point in the game. I don't see why you can't put AJ in for Hassan as soon as the starter is out. If Hassan is not a better option vs. LHP than AJ he doesn't really need to be on the 40-man roster. And considering that Cecchini isn't going to get any playing time anyway the Sox had nothing to lose.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 19, 2014 21:18:45 GMT -5
i'll always like Coco. Wasn't it in 2007 that he had that ridiculous playoff at bat? I wish I had some cells left that contained memory.
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Post by jmei on Jun 19, 2014 21:19:02 GMT -5
I don't see why you can't put AJ in for Hassan as soon as the starter is out. If Hassan is not a better option vs. LHP than AJ he doesn't really need to be on the 40-man roster. And considering that Cecchini isn't going to get any playing time anyway the Sox had nothing to lose. Pinch-hitter penalty. Hassan will be DFAed in short order once there's a better candidate to take his 40-man spot. It was either going to be Cecchini or Hassan (those are the only two healthy non-catcher position players on the 40-man roster), and they went with the one who is probably the better true-talent hitter. Hardly a decision worthy of real criticism. Who knows, maybe they're going to give Bogaerts a day off versus a RHP in the near future.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 19, 2014 21:20:53 GMT -5
Which you get about half of as a DH anyway.
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