Yoan Moncada

So does the moment of truth come tomorrow, September 1,next Tuesday at the end of the Portland season, or sometime before september 30th? We find out if moncada gets called up this year. A month ago it seemed a sure thing, now not so sure. Looks like starting the clock issue, strikeouts, and where to play him show negatives. The speed and athlete that he is, adds a skill the sox could use. Shaw and hill not getting it done. Then if you do call him up does he play in the post season? Fun problem. Emotion and predictive stats at odds. What does DDo do?

“@bradfo: The way Farrell was talking sure sounds like Moncada will be coming up to play third base soon”

The Red Sox are becoming the old Phoenix Suns. Offense is the best bullpen.

Nope, he just has to be in the organization

Not specifically true, however, he'll be eligible as a substitute, for example, for Carson Smith. Teams can pretty much get anyone in because every team has season ending injured players.

The injury loophole ought to be closed (as I read the rule, there's no restrictions on who can replace whom, and no commissioner oversight, BTW). It essentially amounts to no restrictions at all on players in the organization.

What I'd do:

1) Eligible players are those:

a) On the 40-man roster or 60-day DL as of August 30th, or

b) Acquired by August 31.

2) Players may be selected to the 40-man roster and optioned simultaneously, i.e., selected into option status.

Teams will be forced to decide at the end of August which non-40-man players they wish to make post-season eligible, and add them to the 40-man (while still being able to wait until 9/1 to recall them). They may have to waive some players to make room for these additions, which is why there's a day between the deadline for promoting from within the organization and acquiring from the outside; the waived players, if claimed, can be post-season eligible for their new teams. Without the intervening day, teams would make their internal roster tweaks just before midnight.

If this rule were in place, Moncada and probably Rusney and Kyle Martin would have been selected and optioned yesterday, and Cuevas and Jerez DFA'd. Now, no one's going to want either of those guys on a post-season roster, but there may be other players who do get waived on the 30th who would be credible candidates. You could imagine the Pirates claiming a AAA reliever and working their Happ / Nova magic on him in September, for instance.

The interesting call for the Red Sox would be whether to select and option Kopech (and DFA Brentz, probably) for a September trial to cover the small possibility that he 8th inning remains a catastrophe for whom he actually is the best option. I'm not endorsing deepjohn's delusion, just acknowledging that it has a 1-5% of happening, and maybe it would be smart to cover that possibility. Under the current rules, the team will get a few more Kopech starts to factor into that decision.

The next phase of the discussion now opens. Just like with the benintendi thread, do we agree with how they play moncada? This is what makes these boards fun, listening to the stats and the emotion of what is the best thing to do. Good luck Yoan!!!

The Red Sox have four players 25 and under in the major leagues who would be #1 on any Yankees 25-and-under list.

How good would Moncada have to look out there this season and during spring training next to be the opening day 3rd baseman? Personally I would rather they allow him more seasoning down in AAA and get the extra year of cost control for him. If they don't make a move for a corner infielder this off season I could see him breaking camp with the team though.

I completly agree that I'd like to see them have another alternative at 3rd base. Guess that could be shaw and a righty corner infielder again though. Looking at moncada's numbers he could use some more reps in the minors.

On another note, this is probably a discussion for another thread but I have to believe that the completly arbitrary 30 day rule will be reworked. Ud think that'd be one of the priorities for the mlbpa.

Yes that is this year, I think most can probably agree there is little to lose by bringing him to the majors this year to get an idea of what it is like and well shaw and hill have been bad. My question though is next year, as it stands I really do not know what the chances are of him being the starting 3rd baseman opening day. I think it's probably on the low side. I think that some combo of shaw/holt/sandoval+right handed 3rd base fa can do well enough for a month to maybe the whole year. It really depends on yoan but I don't think he is ready. I very much hope he proves me wrong.