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Post by mgoetze on May 11, 2015 8:39:12 GMT -5
first-ever 5 Tight End set. Oh so that's what the guy we took in the 2nd round is gonna play. |
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Post by GyIantosca on May 11, 2015 9:17:24 GMT -5
Good by to Arrington.
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Post by jmei on May 11, 2015 10:32:03 GMT -5
Don't really get the Arrington release. He's maybe a little overpaid, but they only save around $1m by cutting him, and he's always been a pretty good special teams player and slot corner.
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Post by mgoetze on May 11, 2015 10:48:34 GMT -5
Don't really get the Arrington release. He's maybe a little overpaid, but they only save around $1m by cutting him, and he's always been a pretty good special teams player and slot corner. You can't completely ignore the $1.6m dead money they'd have if they cut him next year though. Anyway, I was surprised they did not take a CB early in the draft and now they've dropped Dennard and Butler - they must be really confident in the young guys they have. |
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Post by wcp3 on May 11, 2015 11:58:30 GMT -5
I think this could be as simple as Arrington's singular skill starting to deteriorate. He doesn't have the versatility to adjust, so if the Pats feel he isn't a top-notch slot defender anymore, then his roster spot would be more valuable going to someone else.
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Post by wcp3 on May 11, 2015 16:46:49 GMT -5
Pats need to sue the NFL.
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 11, 2015 16:58:22 GMT -5
4 games, a 1st round pick in 2016 and a 4th in 2017? what an absolute joke that is.
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Post by mgoetze on May 11, 2015 17:16:20 GMT -5
So piping in crowd noise is a 5th round pick and (maybe) deflating footballs is a 1st + 4th round pick? Is it just me or do they make this stuff up as they go along?
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Post by GyIantosca on May 11, 2015 17:21:33 GMT -5
How about Rice getting two games for punching his wife.
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Post by mgoetze on May 11, 2015 17:27:44 GMT -5
4 games isn't very troublesome... Pittsburgh, @buffalo, Jacksonville, @dallas. I am confident we can win at least 2 of those games with Jimmy G. at the helm. 1st round pick is of course totally out of wack and ridiculous.
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Post by raftsox on May 11, 2015 17:41:06 GMT -5
I for one am done with the NFL. This was a witch hunt from the beginning. It would be nice if all pats fans boycott this year as a big FU to the league.
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Post by burythehammer on May 11, 2015 18:10:06 GMT -5
So piping in crowd noise is a 5th round pick and (maybe) deflating footballs is a 1st + 4th round pick? Is it just me or do they make this stuff up as they go along? Troy Vincent says he factored in Spygate when deciding the punishment. I wonder if he factored in that his teams were 0-5 against Tom Brady with a combined score of 137-67. Might as well have let Marshall Faulk decide the penalty. |
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Post by scottysmalls on May 11, 2015 18:30:19 GMT -5
Not worried about the Pats on field, if anything they'll be better for the motivation, but what a joke. First of all, no guilt was proved, but even if it was in the rule book the punishment for this is a $25K fine. The precedent for similar cases was no punishment for the Panthers and Vikings and a $25K fine on the Chargers. This didn't need to be a story, but the NFL made it one for no apparent reason. It takes away from the action on the field and really just shows how dumb the NFL is, running a smear campaign on one of its greatest players and franchises ever. I just don't understand.
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Post by grandsalami on May 11, 2015 19:16:44 GMT -5
@realdonaldtrump: People are so jealous of Tom Brady and the Patriots. No court could convict based on the evidence.They can't beat him on the field, so this!
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Post by grandsalami on May 11, 2015 19:17:14 GMT -5
@realdonaldtrump: Why do we always try to destroy our true champions and winners in this country, while at the same time leaving the losers alone? STUPID!
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Post by chavopepe2 on May 11, 2015 19:37:57 GMT -5
Like most other Patriots fans, my first reaction is to get pissed at the complete lunacy of this punishment, the utter disregard for fair process, the complete inability to weigh facts reasonably, and the total charade that was made out of nothing, but…
Watch this team rally. Watch them come together. It is very hard to get that extra level of motivation out of a team coming off a championship, but they have it now. The "us against the world" mind set will drive this team all year.
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Post by kingofthetrill on May 11, 2015 20:55:14 GMT -5
While I will not say the majority of the thoughts going through my head right now due to the board's stance on profanity, I will say that if they can get the suspension knocked down to 3 games then they'd be in pretty good shape as they probably don't need Brady against Jacksonville and maybe even Buffalo. The first game against Pittsburgh may be lost but they can really use Brady against Dallas. You'd think that NE/Dal would have the potential to be a big money making game so it'd be crazy to withhold Brady from that. Then again it's not like NFL discipline and logic/reason ever really go hand in hand.
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Post by pasadenasox on May 11, 2015 21:38:44 GMT -5
I expected a Brady suspension for "non-cooperation" and a multi-hundred thousand dollar fine for the team based in the circumstances (not that I agree, just what I expected). The fine being at least twice as much as I anticipated and the loss of the first and fourth is massively disproportionate - all of it without a smoking gun, deeply flawed "science", and the texts of Heckle & Jeckle. What would the penalties be if there was a smoking gun? I would have thought it would be this.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 11, 2015 21:53:47 GMT -5
Really doesn't surprise me. The league is run out of new york and Goodell is a Jets guy.
The only question is how successful an appeal will be. Probably only slightly successful.
First round draft pick and loss of a 1 or 2 seed in this post season, and ruining brady's reputation is the real penalty. Which is pretty severe. About as severe as the NFL could've handed out.
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Post by kingofthetrill on May 11, 2015 22:24:00 GMT -5
I wonder if/how the penalty (and media coverage) would have been affected if Brady was black.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 11, 2015 22:46:58 GMT -5
We all know Tom will appeal this and players union will help him. What can the Patriots do to challenge this? Do they have a course of action they can take? Krafts comments today make it seem like he won't take this sitting down.
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Post by pasadenasox on May 12, 2015 1:02:26 GMT -5
The Pats are most likely screwed vis-a-vis the picks and the money, there is no appeals process there.
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Post by mgoetze on May 12, 2015 4:42:02 GMT -5
The first game against Pittsburgh may be lost FWIW, Vegas still has the Pats as 1.5-2.5 point favourites. (Home field advantage usually counts for ~3 points.) |
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Post by jimed14 on May 12, 2015 9:08:39 GMT -5
The first game against Pittsburgh may be lost FWIW, Vegas still has the Pats as 1.5-2.5 point favourites. (Home field advantage usually counts for ~3 points.) Do they have a line on the Colts game yet? I'd give 40 points and take the Pats. |
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Post by Don Caballero on May 12, 2015 9:21:02 GMT -5
Really doesn't surprise me. Same here, in the other thread I overreacted to the news when we first heard about it, but I new the NFL for one reason or another wouldn't let another Pats "scandal" go by softly. Also, "witch hunt"? "What if Tom Brady was black"? Donald Trump quotes? Come on guys... |
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