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Post by dd on Jun 6, 2015 11:18:45 GMT -5
Don't know exactly where she was sitting but it was in the second row on the 3rd base side between home and the dugout. One of the papers said it was just beyond the netting. Somebody, I think it was Lawrie, said something about the nets not coming out too far at Fenway, the implication being that they come farther in other parks. I tried to find something about how far out they come here vs other parks but gave up. Not a big topic of internet conversation I guess. She was there with her husband and "young son". A Boston cop grabbed the kid so he wouldn't look. Really a horrible situation. Hope like hell she recovers but it's apparently not clear that will be the case. I'm finding this pretty wrenching. Just not the kind of thing that's supposed to happen on a day at Fenway with the family. Massively lower on the scale of importance, there will likely be legal action about this at some point.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2015 11:31:39 GMT -5
Don't know exactly where she was sitting but it was in the second row on the 3rd base side between home and the dugout. One of the papers said it was just beyond the netting. Somebody, I think it was Lawrie, said something about the nets not coming out too far at Fenway, the implication being that they come farther in other parks. I tried to find something about how far out they come here vs other parks but gave up. Not a big topic of internet conversation I guess. She was in the second section beyond the netting.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 6, 2015 11:45:59 GMT -5
I hope that this woman recovers..,the last report that I saw was that she was undergoing surgery at Beth Isreal Deaconess last night.
I recall siting near the on deck circle a few years ago and someone getting hit by a screaming foul line drive off the bat of a RH hitter. This person had to be taken out in a stretcher. It was amazing to me how many people do not pay attention to the game particularly in such close proximity to home plate. Perhaps it is time for MLB to mandate safety nets be extended to at least the on deck circle in all parks taking an approach similar to the the NHL to protect their fans.
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Post by jmei on Jun 6, 2015 12:23:58 GMT -5
It was amazing to me how many people do not pay attention to the game particularly in such close proximity to home plate. This is a little victim blame-y. Even if you're glued to the game, it can be impossible to avoid being struck by a batted ball or broken/tomahawked bat. That's especially true of a broken bat, where the instinct is to track the batted ball, which is going in a totally different direction than the jagged piece of wood hurtling into the stands.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 6, 2015 12:35:42 GMT -5
Holt over Panda again today at 3b , DeAza over Rusney in rf. Manager is trying.
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Post by redsox4242 on Jun 6, 2015 12:42:21 GMT -5
Dustin Pedroia, 2B Brock Holt, 3B Hanley Ramirez, LF David Ortiz, DH Mike Napoli, 1B Xander Bogaerts, SS Mookie Betts, CF Alejandro De Aza, RF Blake Swihart, C Joe Kelly, RHP
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Post by nomar on Jun 6, 2015 12:44:05 GMT -5
Holt over Panda again today at 3b , DeAza over Rusney in rf. Manager is trying. Bless his little heart I don't think we have any possible lineup that would hit Chavez well at this point. Although we have shown signs of life lately.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 6, 2015 12:51:16 GMT -5
Can Masterson take up switch pitching?
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 6, 2015 12:52:26 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 9m9 minutes ago Farrell acknowledged that Kelly or Wright will be bumped from the rotation, said odd man out likelier to go to bullpen than Triple-A.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 10m10 minutes ago Farrell said Masterson could be ready to return to the Red Sox without another rehab start, but that'll be decided after a side on Sunday.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 2m2 minutes ago Farrell was noncommittal when asked whether Masterson would return as a starter or reliever.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jun 6, 2015 13:09:28 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 9m9 minutes ago Farrell acknowledged that Kelly or Wright will be bumped from the rotation, said odd man out likelier to go to bullpen than Triple-A. Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 10m10 minutes ago Farrell said Masterson could be ready to return to the Red Sox without another rehab start, but that'll be decided after a side on Sunday. Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 2m2 minutes ago Farrell was noncommittal when asked whether Masterson would return as a starter or reliever. I see no reason to send anyone to AAA. Is there anyone in Pawtucket who is crying out for a spot at the back of the Sox pen? Put Kelly or Wright in the pen and make them the long guy. Have them start of you want to skip someone or give them an extra day. You will have to skip Rodriguez at some point. Maybe more than once.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 6, 2015 13:14:52 GMT -5
Based on the foregoing, I'd expect Barnes to head back to Pawtucket until an injury occurs or a move is made, so that he can get regular bullpen work.
Buchholz, Porcello, Rodriguez, Miley, Kelly/Wright
Kelly/Wright, Uehara, Tazawa, Layne, Masterson, Ogando, Breslow
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 6, 2015 13:24:03 GMT -5
No matter what he does today, I hope it's Kelly to the pen and Wright stays starting. Kelly can come in as the long man for awhile and the 7th inning guy. It would also be fun to watch hitters reactions when he comes in for Wright.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jun 6, 2015 13:44:29 GMT -5
Based on the foregoing, I'd expect Barnes to head back to Pawtucket until an injury occurs or a move is made, so that he can get regular bullpen work. Buchholz, Porcello, Rodriguez, Miley, Kelly/Wright Kelly/Wright, Uehara, Tazawa, Layne, Masterson, Ogando, Breslow I just don't see how they can do that if Masterson continues to pitch how he's been pitching. It's obvious from his two rehab stints that nothing has changed. You put him in there how can you possibly expect different results?
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 6, 2015 13:50:37 GMT -5
I see no reason to send anyone to AAA. I do. Not so much an issue in the case of Wright (except that he might need too much warmup to be good in the bullpen), but if it's Kelly as I'm hoping, you keep him stretched out and give him an opportunity to really work on improving his command. Kelly had a 3.20 xFIP as a starter in April, if he can play anywhere close to that level on a more consistent basis he is just way too valuable as a starter to give up on - especially with 3 options remaining.
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Post by danr on Jun 6, 2015 13:54:10 GMT -5
I think I also am in favor of Kelly going to the bullpen. I think it is the best way for him to improve his command. And if he does improve it, he could return to the rotation, or maybe become the closer.
If they do put Masterson in the bullpen, I am not optimistic he will last long there. Even if they don't think he can do it, they may put him there as a last modicum of respect and affection for a good guy. And from that standpoint it is the right thing to do.
Johnson probably is the replacement for Wright if he falters.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jun 6, 2015 14:00:08 GMT -5
I see no reason to send anyone to AAA. I do. Not so much an issue in the case of Wright (except that he might need too much warmup to be good in the bullpen), but if it's Kelly as I'm hoping, you keep him stretched out and give him an opportunity to really work on improving his command. Kelly had a 3.20 xFIP as a starter in April, if he can play anywhere close to that level on a more consistent basis he is just way too valuable as a starter to give up on - especially with 3 options remaining. With his stuff he might still be able to get outs in AAA without improving his command. I fail to see how facing poor competition is going to help him more than spot starting, side sessions and bullpen work. The key is that you really do need another guy on the team who can start so that you don't have to push Rodriguez and you don't overexpose Kelly and Wright. You could have all three pitchers basically share the 5th spot.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 6, 2015 14:31:58 GMT -5
I see no reason to send anyone to AAA. I do. Not so much an issue in the case of Wright (except that he might need too much warmup to be good in the bullpen), but if it's Kelly as I'm hoping, you keep him stretched out and give him an opportunity to really work on improving his command. Kelly had a 3.20 xFIP as a starter in April, if he can play anywhere close to that level on a more consistent basis he is just way too valuable as a starter to give up on - especially with 3 options remaining. It's not a problem for 2 or 3 weeks. If he doesn't get a long relief outing he can throw on the side or a simulated game. I'd rather he face mlb hitters for now. They can also give him a spot start to keep him stretched out . The 6 man thing worked fine for the pitchers. Sorry for posting before reading. Moonstone already beat me.
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Post by danr on Jun 6, 2015 15:05:02 GMT -5
Sandoval not in the lineup today against a RH pitcher. Any info on why?
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 6, 2015 15:19:59 GMT -5
I hate this ump already
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Post by atzar on Jun 6, 2015 15:20:13 GMT -5
Boom. That ball was hit hard.
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Post by jmei on Jun 6, 2015 15:21:36 GMT -5
Man, when Hanley gets ahold of one, it's a beautiful sight.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 6, 2015 15:22:03 GMT -5
Sheesh, Hanley killed that rally hard.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 6, 2015 15:25:16 GMT -5
Is this the dead ball era strike zone?
The first ball vs. Butler was about 6 inches higher than Papi's called 3rd strike
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Post by nomar on Jun 6, 2015 15:29:21 GMT -5
Expanding the strike zone is/was a stupid idea IMO
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 6, 2015 15:31:49 GMT -5
Is this the dead ball era strike zone? Funky games from the Umpires. That ball was easily 6" to 8" below Ortiz' knees. You'll have a hard time convincing me this isn't part of some master plan. Great consistency for the hitters when the rules morph from one year to the next, no?
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