ianrs
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Post by ianrs on Jun 18, 2015 10:44:50 GMT -5
If that means more Allen Craig, Joe Kelly and Cespedes/Porcello, Hembree a shot at another Eduardo Rodriguez then I'm not sure I want to sell. Fixed that for you.
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Post by thursty on Jun 18, 2015 11:28:41 GMT -5
I watched the condensed game and counted 7 plays that weren't made that could/should of been made by the IF in last night's game: 3 by Pedroia 2 by Xander 1 each by Panda and Napoli
Did I miss any?
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 18, 2015 11:32:47 GMT -5
If that means more Allen Craig, Joe Kelly and Cespedes/Porcello, Hembree a shot at another Eduardo Rodriguez then I'm not sure I want to sell. Fixed that for you. I believe you just made my point about the strategy. They should have sought prospects rather than the "rebuild on the fly" that guided their decisions at the last deadline.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 18, 2015 12:47:06 GMT -5
If that means more Allen Craig, Joe Kelly and Cespedes/Porcello, Hembree a shot at another Eduardo Rodriguez then I'm not sure I want to sell. Fixed that for you. I mean honestly at this point I'm hearing about how selling isn't worth it because they're just going to get more Allan Craigs and high draft picks aren't worth it because they're just going to get more Trey Balls, and at that point, I don't know what people want. Just fold the franchise I guess?
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Post by radiohix on Jun 18, 2015 14:49:00 GMT -5
Castillo is out of the lineup again today. Seriously, why don't they just demote him to AAA and givehim regular playing time?
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 18, 2015 14:49:48 GMT -5
Jason Mastrodonato @jmastrodonato 17 sec. Pablo Sandoval admitted it was him on Instagram last night. Was going to the bathroom in the 7th and grabbed his phone on the way there.
Wow, that's bad. But kudos I guess for taking the blame.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 18, 2015 14:50:37 GMT -5
Jason Mastrodonato @jmastrodonato 17 sec. Pablo Sandoval admitted it was him on Instagram last night. Was going to the bathroom in the 7th and grabbed his phone on the way there. Wow, that's bad. But kudos I guess for taking the blame. Ian Browne @ianmbrowne 1m1 minute ago Sandoval benched tonight for violating social media policy during game last night. Jason Mastrodonato @jmastrodonato 50s51 seconds ago Sandoval said he apologized to his teammates and manager, accepted his one game punishment and expects to be back in the lineup tomorrow. Castillo is out of the lineup again today. Seriously, why don't they just demote him to AAA and givehim regular playing time? Yeah. It's one thing if you're trying to play Holt everyday, but De Aza over him is pretty pointless. -- Scott Lauber @scottlauber 7m7 minutes ago #RedSox at ATL: 2B Holt, CF Betts, 1B Ortiz, LF Ramirez, SS Bogaerts, RF De Aza, 3B Shaw, C Leon, P Buchholz
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 18, 2015 14:57:16 GMT -5
Perfect time to go with JBJ and let Castillo get his stuff together in AAA.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 18, 2015 15:00:36 GMT -5
“@timbritton: Sounds like Heath Hembree's headed to the DL. That makes room for Shaw.”
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 18, 2015 15:00:49 GMT -5
I don't think the Sandoval thing is a big deal, but you have to be pretty stupid to do something like that knowing your Insta profile is public.
So glad the Sox invested so much in this guy...
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 18, 2015 15:01:02 GMT -5
Was taking a dump when he went on his phone
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Post by radiohix on Jun 18, 2015 15:09:09 GMT -5
The fat dude said he wasn't thinking when he went on IG, same like when he's fielding grounders! I have a Lugo-level hate for that dude!
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 18, 2015 15:17:41 GMT -5
So, 100 temp, and even more humid today than it's been the past week down here. What's the odds the team is out working on their awful defense ?
Other than Pedey He's likely out early as usual. Remember him taking grounders on his knees when he couldn't bear weight on his foot? Can't see any of the Hanley,Panda, or Rusney crew doing that.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 18, 2015 15:19:52 GMT -5
So, 100 temp, and even more humid today than it's been the past week down here. What's the odds the team is out working on their awful defense ? Other than Pedey He's likely out early as usual. Remember him taking grounders on his knees when he couldn't bear weight on his foot? Can't see any of the Hanley,Panda, or Rusney crew doing that. Because they should take grounders on their knees?
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 18, 2015 15:53:40 GMT -5
Pablo is an idiot for doing that. This message coming to you from my companies bathroom.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 18, 2015 16:12:41 GMT -5
Pablo is an idiot for doing that. This message coming to you from my companies bathroom. True. Stupid. But whatever, he's taking a quick dump and checks his phone. That's what I do, doesn't everybody? But it's against team policy to do this during a game. But kudos to Pablo for stepping up and saying it was him and he knew it was wrong. He apologized to the team. So many athletes today when caught in something a little stupid like this will say, Oh it was a friend I let use my phone or my phone was hacked. At least he's taking responsibility.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jun 18, 2015 16:36:34 GMT -5
God, I hate Sandoval.
What a horrific signing. This one is gonna be much worse than the Crawford one.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 18, 2015 16:47:18 GMT -5
We've become a laughing stock in 18 months. Can you believe it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 17:06:15 GMT -5
Pablo is an idiot for doing that. This message coming to you from my companies bathroom. True. Stupid. But whatever, he's taking a quick dump and checks his phone. That's what I do, doesn't everybody? But it's against team policy to do this during a game. Who Skypes while taking a dump? Whoever you're calling doesn't need to see that.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Jun 18, 2015 17:23:18 GMT -5
God, I hate Sandoval. What a horrific signing. This one is gonna be much worse than the Crawford one. Pablo Sandoval who has a 103 wRC+ and is paid probably half of what Crawford was paid after accounting for inflation is a worse signing than Crawford? How come we aren't jumping all over Hanley? The fans of this team have had it out for Pablo from day 1.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 18, 2015 17:34:12 GMT -5
God, I hate Sandoval. What a horrific signing. This one is gonna be much worse than the Crawford one. Pablo Sandoval who has a 103 wRC+ and is paid probably half of what Crawford was paid after accounting for inflation is a worse signing than Crawford? How come we aren't jumping all over Hanley? The fans of this team have had it out for Pablo from day 1. If you don't feel like Pablo Sandoval has been criticized, I invite you to read the last 4 months of these forums.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 18, 2015 17:36:15 GMT -5
Pablo Sandoval who has a 103 wRC+ and is paid probably half of what Crawford was paid after accounting for inflation is a worse signing than Crawford? How come we aren't jumping all over Hanley? The fans of this team have had it out for Pablo from day 1. If you don't feel like Pablo Sandoval Hanley Ramirez has been criticized, I invite you to read the last 4 months of these forums.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 18, 2015 17:41:34 GMT -5
AAV of the two contracts Crawford/Fatso is less than 2 mil per year. Inflation?
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 18, 2015 17:50:01 GMT -5
If you don't feel like Pablo Sandoval Hanley Ramirez has been criticized, I invite you to read the last 4 months of these forums. Right, I transposed those names.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jun 18, 2015 17:56:55 GMT -5
God, I hate Sandoval. What a horrific signing. This one is gonna be much worse than the Crawford one. Pablo Sandoval who has a 103 wRC+ and is paid probably half of what Crawford was paid after accounting for inflation is a worse signing than Crawford? How come we aren't jumping all over Hanley? The fans of this team have had it out for Pablo from day 1. Well, lets see: Carl Crawford was a much better player than Sandoval when we signed him. We gave him $20.2M per year. Up until that point he average 4.79 WAR per year (5.3 per if you remove his 2002 season when he first came up and played just 62 games). So when we signed him in his prime, it wasn't reasonable to think he would go from a 5 WAR player to a replacement level player immediately, which is what happened mainly due to injuries. It was a bad deal from the start, as you knew a player like him that relied on speed and athleticism only, would have a steep decline. It just wasn't reasonable to expect it in the first 2 years of his contract. We signed an extremely overweight player to a huge contract worth $19M per for a guy who averaged 2.87 WAR per year (we can bump that up to 3.2 WAR per year if you want to toss out his first year like Crawford). So let's see we gave out similar money (no inflation does not make Carl Crawford control double what we gave Sandoval, inflation would take Crawford's AAV to $22.3M still in the range of Sandoval money) to a worse player at the same age, who is signficiantly overweight and can absolutely be expected to decline quickly because he refuses to lose weight. Combine that with the fact that the one good thing about Sandoval was supposed to be his above average defense, and instead he has been absolutely atrocious at 3rd this year. I don't even want to touch that 103 WRc+ number you are tossing out at me, like that is some sort of saving grace or something I'm supposed to celebrate. Oh our $20M a year 3rd baseman who doesn't miss a meal is hitting league average numbers. Yay! There are plenty of people jumping all over Hanley Ramirez, but for the most part, he has been exactly what was expected out of him, a guy who is a pretty good hitter who is awful in the field. We got what we bargained for, he's going to be a money sink, but not nearly are horrific as Sandoval will be.
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