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Post by kingofthetrill on Apr 26, 2016 7:33:37 GMT -5
Honestly, I thought about Tom Brady retiring to stick it to Goodell, but I think the better option is for the Pats to just not play the 4 games, or at least the road games. That way they'd still make the money on their home games, while sticking a middle finger to Goodell and the rest of the league and their fans. I think that there's a trade off between risking injury to players in a stacked deck or giving players gametime to gel together.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 26, 2016 7:42:16 GMT -5
Or they win all 4 games without Brady and then win the SB...
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Post by texs31 on Apr 29, 2016 20:34:24 GMT -5
Pats take Alabama CB Cyrus Jones at 60. Trade out of 61 for 78 and a 4th.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 29, 2016 20:51:26 GMT -5
Nice start. Love that trade.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 29, 2016 22:06:02 GMT -5
Thuney was a reach, but fills a need. But now Brissett a QB? Wow passing on a ton of good RB and DT.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 1, 2016 10:36:08 GMT -5
I can easily see this team going 1-3 or 0-4 in those first four games, potentially missing the playoffs. This league is such a joke.
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Post by rangoon82 on May 1, 2016 11:36:06 GMT -5
I can easily see this team going 1-3 or 0-4 in those first four games, potentially missing the playoffs. This league is such a joke. |
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Post by costpet on May 2, 2016 11:25:11 GMT -5
If we go 1-3 or 0-4, Goodall gets he wish. But, if we somehow sneak into the playoffs, watch out. The league will pay.
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Post by beasleyrockah on May 2, 2016 12:21:46 GMT -5
Belichick isn't suspended, the roster is loaded and deep, and barring injury they'll have that Brady guy for 12 regular season starts. This team will make the playoffs, and there will be nothing sneaky about it. If anyone feels anxious over Brady's suspension go take a look at the other three AFC East team rosters and coaching staffs, that should do the trick.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 5, 2016 12:26:59 GMT -5
Belichick isn't suspended, the roster is loaded and deep, and barring injury they'll have that Brady guy for 12 regular season starts. This team will make the playoffs, and there will be nothing sneaky about it. If anyone feels anxious over Brady's suspension go take a look at the other three AFC East team rosters and coaching staffs, that should do the trick. This team doesn't play as well on the road in the playoffs, especially if Denver is involved. Now imagine having to go through two road teams just to get to the super bowl and the path to Brady's 5th narrows dramatically from the typical bye and home field advantage route. |
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Post by texs31 on May 6, 2016 10:41:11 GMT -5
Amendola restructures deal again.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 6, 2016 11:45:54 GMT -5
Man I respect Amendola, but what a slap in the face by the Pat's. By waiting so long Pat's knew all good teams have very little money. So he takes pay cut, plays for a bad team or plays for close to get min on good team. With what Hogan is making not sure how everyone thinks Amendola was so overpaid. He is now making a lot less than Hogan!
Very happy he is staying with team though. This will be the best WR depth we have had in a long time.
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Post by texs31 on May 6, 2016 12:41:19 GMT -5
Isn't it, at least, plausible that, when free agency started, the 2 sides agreed that:
a) Danny would rather be in NE at a pay cut than anywhere else?
b) That they would hash it out after the draft?
It's probably unreasonable of us to think the worst just bc we aren't made aware of any discussions.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2016 8:39:50 GMT -5
This restructure was the least surprising event of the offseason. Amendola knew it was coming and so did the rest of the world. These restructures are about cap numbers and Amendolas was way too high.
I respect the hell out of the guy too. I've never seen an athlete in this town take the verbal beating this guy did, keep things positive, work his *** off, get healthy and step up big like he did and change everyone's opinion of him. He's such an important piece for this squad so it's good to have him back in the fold. They don't make that Super Bowl let alone win it without him turning his career around half way thru the year two seasons ago
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 7, 2016 20:17:46 GMT -5
Isn't it, at least, plausible that, when free agency started, the 2 sides agreed that: a) Danny would rather be in NE at a pay cut than anywhere else? b) That they would hash it out after the draft? It's probably unreasonable of us to think the worst just bc we aren't made aware of any discussions. Sure maybe that's the way it went down, I just don't think that makes sense and Patriots have a long history of strong arming players to take paycuts, think Lawyer Malloy right before season started. |
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Post by texs31 on May 7, 2016 20:29:29 GMT -5
True but as was said above, EVERY ONE knew that this needed to happen so it seems to obvious that this would be one of those occasions.
Given how obvious, if his agent wasn't bugging the Pats daily to see what was up, then he wasn't doing a good job.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 9, 2016 8:32:21 GMT -5
It wasn't a surprise to Amendola nor anyone in the media market since it had been reported and talked about for months that he was a potential cut candidate if he didn't redo his contract.
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Post by wcp3 on May 10, 2016 7:34:16 GMT -5
Isn't it, at least, plausible that, when free agency started, the 2 sides agreed that: a) Danny would rather be in NE at a pay cut than anywhere else? b) That they would hash it out after the draft? It's probably unreasonable of us to think the worst just bc we aren't made aware of any discussions. Sure maybe that's the way it went down, I just don't think that makes sense and Patriots have a long history of strong arming players to take paycuts, think Lawyer Malloy right before season started. The Lawyer Malloy thing happened over a decade ago. You're reaching here. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 10, 2016 18:53:11 GMT -5
Sure maybe that's the way it went down, I just don't think that makes sense and Patriots have a long history of strong arming players to take paycuts, think Lawyer Malloy right before season started. The Lawyer Malloy thing happened over a decade ago. You're reaching here. Sure it was a long time ago, put do you really think Bill has changed? I sure don't. They went out and signed a bunch of guys and drafted a WR and told Danny to take a pay cut or your gone. Lucky for us he took a pay cut. |
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Post by wcp3 on May 10, 2016 19:28:24 GMT -5
If you don't have any more examples of disgruntled ex-players, then I'd say that was more of an exception than the rule.
Yes, the Patriots are a cut throat, unemotional organization, but they're pretty transparent about it. That's why players generally don't leave/take pay cuts on bad terms - they know when it's coming.
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 10, 2016 22:56:02 GMT -5
How about if you share the business model with the players... "this is the $ we have, this is what we hope to do with that $". Could it be that players like being treated like adults? What if that's how they approach it?
That's a rock hard cap in the NFL, the choices are limited. For whatever reason, they always seem to have better depth than just about anyone else. Maybe they approach negotiations like they approach their games, as a team sport.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 10, 2016 23:18:29 GMT -5
If you don't have any more examples of disgruntled ex-players, then I'd say that was more of an exception than the rule. Yes, the Patriots are a cut throat, unemotional organization, but they're pretty transparent about it. That's why players generally don't leave/take pay cuts on bad terms - they know when it's coming. Haha did you forget Vince Wilfork? Last two years it was Danny and year before that it was Vince. Almost ever year they have a vet take a paycut or they release them. It's the rule, not an exception. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 10, 2016 23:27:58 GMT -5
How about if you share the business model with the players... "this is the $ we have, this is what we hope to do with that $". Could it be that players like being treated like adults? What if that's how they approach it? That's a rock hard cap in the NFL, the choices are limited. For whatever reason, they always seem to have better depth than just about anyone else. Maybe they approach negotiations like they approach their games, as a team sport. It's all about winning, Danny said as much. How do you tell Danny that they need his Money for Hogan and the team is better for it? I would love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Have to think it's a simple we want to keep you but at this number, take it or leave it. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 11, 2016 6:21:16 GMT -5
Every team in the NFL does the same thing. It's the CBA, not the Patriots.
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Post by wcp3 on May 11, 2016 7:20:56 GMT -5
Right, but you're acting like so many players leave on bad terms like Malloy did when that's simply not the case.
They leave because of disagreements on money, sure, but the splits are rarely ugly.
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