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Post-Draft Discussion Thread
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 3, 2016 0:56:30 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 4, 2016 11:49:18 GMT -5
I think they should try to subvert the rules and just give everyone $300K and slide the rest of the cash under the table. Seems foolproof, really. I just got off the phone with John Henry. You're replacing Hazen. The press conference is at 1 PM tomorrow right after the staged hug photo shoot with David Ortiz. A staged hug with David Ortiz would probably be the proudest moment of my lift. Except maybe those two times I had kids. It's close. |
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Post by eagleeye9184 on Jul 4, 2016 19:10:37 GMT -5
This may have been asked earlier, but if/when Groome signs, would his upside grade out as an 8? Is his upside considered a franchise pitcher?
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Post by dnfl333 on Jul 4, 2016 20:31:00 GMT -5
The un-drafted player Reveles, 100,000? What is the info behind this player?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 4, 2016 22:37:12 GMT -5
The un-drafted player Reveles, 100,000? What is the info behind this player? Huh? |
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Post by alnipper on Jul 6, 2016 12:03:25 GMT -5
This may have been asked earlier, but if/when Groome signs, would his upside grade out as an 8? Is his upside considered a franchise pitcher? That is a good question I have asked myself. If Groome threw slightly harder I'd have him at 8. I'd like to see a scouting report to determine if he's an 8 as well. Right now I'd give him a 7. Maybe a 7.5 as a cop-out. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 6, 2016 12:15:37 GMT -5
Spent to date..: $2,245,000
Red Sox Cap....: $6,997,400 ($3,804,600 without Groome)
Red Sox Cap +5%: $7,347,270 ($3,994,830 without Groome)
Groome slot $3.193mm
Dalbec slot $0.501mm (assume $500k)
Shawaryn slot $0.376mm (assume $500k)
Espinal slot $0.157mm (assume $100k)
Total slots $4.227mm ($1.034mm without Groome)
If Dalbec, Shawaryn and Espinal sign for my estimates, then there would be $4.0mm available to Groome. If Groome doesn't sign (but Dalbec, Shawaryn and Espinal do), then there would be approx. $650k available to round 11+ players.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 6, 2016 16:08:27 GMT -5
Jim Callis @jimcallismlb 11 unsigned players in top 10 rds: 4 redsox, 2 @marlins, 1 each @mets, @pirates, @angels, @orioles & @whitesox. @mlbdraft Interesting that Braxton Garrett has not signed yet. I think his bonus will be another solid data point for Groome. |
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 6, 2016 16:36:51 GMT -5
Jim Callis @jimcallismlb 11 unsigned players in top 10 rds: 4 redsox , 2 @marlins, 1 each @mets, @pirates, @angels, @orioles & @whitesox. @mlbdraft Interesting that Braxton Garrett has not signed yet. I think his bonus will be another solid data point for Groome. I don't think an extra data point matters at this time. We're trying to save what we can with the other three and offer the rest to Groome, who is going to take it. If we can only offer so much, then we can only offer so much. Neither Groome nor his agent realistically expect us to go over the 5% overage for him. I wonder if the sox are playing hardball with all four of them in hopes of grabbing an 11+ round guy? At this point I think that's pretty unlikely. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 6, 2016 17:31:42 GMT -5
Jim Callis @jimcallismlb 11 unsigned players in top 10 rds: 4 redsox , 2 @marlins, 1 each @mets, @pirates, @angels, @orioles & @whitesox. @mlbdraft Interesting that Braxton Garrett has not signed yet. I think his bonus will be another solid data point for Groome. I don't think an extra data point matters at this time. We're trying to save what we can with the other three and offer the rest to Groome, who is going to take it. If we can only offer so much, then we can only offer so much. Neither Groome nor his agent realistically expect us to go over the 5% overage for him. I wonder if the sox are playing hardball with all four of them in hopes of grabbing an 11+ round guy? At this point I think that's pretty unlikely. Think hopes of Quintana are an illusion. It's all hopes on Groome, who is the only target and hopes at this point that think/hope they can still sign. Would have been nice to have drafted at least someone better at #4 other than Dalbec if it's going to take close to slot for him to sign however. |
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jul 6, 2016 20:21:42 GMT -5
I don't think an extra data point matters at this time. We're trying to save what we can with the other three and offer the rest to Groome, who is going to take it. If we can only offer so much, then we can only offer so much. Neither Groome nor his agent realistically expect us to go over the 5% overage for him. I wonder if the sox are playing hardball with all four of them in hopes of grabbing an 11+ round guy? At this point I think that's pretty unlikely. Think hopes of Quintana are an illusion. It's all hopes on Groome, who is the only target and hopes at this point that think/hope they can still sign. Would have been nice to have drafted at least someone better at #4 other than Dalbec if it's going to take close to slot for him to sign however. Better than Malbec the hitter, or Malbec the pitcher? |
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Post by eagleeye9184 on Jul 6, 2016 20:47:16 GMT -5
Either way, that's some high octane Malbec. Depends on your taste, I guess.
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 6, 2016 21:23:36 GMT -5
Believe me, I'm alone in this, but I actually like the Daibec pick. Yeah, you can bookmark this post for two years from now when he's a fry cook somewhere. He has a very high ceiling for somebody drafted that late. He has a very, very low chance of achieving it, but what chance do the players selected around him have? There are rumors his college coach tinkered with his swing and that messed it up. Could be reclaimed by a good hitting coach. If it doesn't work out as a hitter (where most seem to think he'll be tried first), then he can try pitching.
To me, the name of the game is producing at the major league level. It doesn't matter if you flame out in AAA or low A. No production at the MLB level is no production at the MLB level. He's about as close to the dictionary definition of a lottery ticket as you can get. Very small chance of paying off, but good return if he does.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 6, 2016 21:51:37 GMT -5
Jim Callis @jimcallismlb 11 unsigned players in top 10 rds: 4 redsox, 2 @marlins, 1 each @mets, @pirates, @angels, @orioles & @whitesox. @mlbdraft Interesting that Braxton Garrett has not signed yet. I think his bonus will be another solid data point for Groome. Wow! Should be interesting come the 15rh. |
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Post by dnfl333 on Jul 6, 2016 22:14:24 GMT -5
The un-drafted player Reveles, 100,000? What is the info behind this player? Huh? Link to Sox draft on the homepage has a player listed on the bottom UD Steven Reveles signed 100,000 ? Any info on that player or is it a mistake |
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Post by azblue on Jul 6, 2016 23:30:32 GMT -5
University of Nebraska senior shortstop--Steven Reveles. Wouldn't seem to be any reason to pay him over $10,000.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2016 11:22:29 GMT -5
Link to Sox draft on the homepage has a player listed on the bottom UD Steven Reveles signed 100,000 ? Any info on that player or is it a mistake The "<" symbol before the $100,000 signifies that he signed for "less than" $100,000. In other words, his bonus does not count towards the cap. He probably didn't even get a bonus, or if he did, it was in the four figures. |
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Post by Smittyw on Jul 7, 2016 11:36:50 GMT -5
There should be an entire subforum devoted to the proper usage of < and >.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 7, 2016 13:10:12 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe
#RedSox signed 3 more draft picks: SS Santiago Espinal (10th round), C Alberto Schmidt (16th round), and CF Chad Hardy (33rd round).
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Post by nomar on Jul 7, 2016 13:11:19 GMT -5
There should be an entire subforum devoted to the proper usage of < and >. That would be so > |
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Post by ramireja on Jul 7, 2016 14:00:29 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe #RedSox signed 3 more draft picks: SS Santiago Espinal (10th round), C Alberto Schmidt (16th round), and CF Chad Hardy (33rd round). Interested to see how much Espinal signed for....even 50k might be important at this point in the grand scheme of things.... |
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 7, 2016 14:02:54 GMT -5
even 50k might be important at this point in the grand scheme of things.... It also might not be, and we'll never find out either way. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 7, 2016 14:07:39 GMT -5
even 50k might be important at this point in the grand scheme of things.... It also might not be, and we'll never find out either way. I thought we take $7 million to the prospect store and decide which ones we want to buy? |
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Post by telson13 on Jul 7, 2016 14:37:34 GMT -5
Believe me, I'm alone in this, but I actually like the Daibec pick. Yeah, you can bookmark this post for two years from now when he's a fry cook somewhere. He has a very high ceiling for somebody drafted that late. He has a very, very low chance of achieving it, but what chance do the players selected around him have? There are rumors his college coach tinkered with his swing and that messed it up. Could be reclaimed by a good hitting coach. If it doesn't work out as a hitter (where most seem to think he'll be tried first), then he can try pitching. To me, the name of the game is producing at the major league level. It doesn't matter if you flame out in AAA or low A. No production at the MLB level is no production at the MLB level. He's about as close to the dictionary definition of a lottery ticket as you can get. Very small chance of paying off, but good return if he does. Agree 100%. Take a huge swing on the guy with 80 power. You're almost guaranteed to whiff or nub it, but if you make solid contact, it's going a long ways. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 7, 2016 16:09:19 GMT -5
Chad Hardy is actually listed as a catcher. Could that be accurate?
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