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Post by jimed14 on Jul 15, 2016 14:48:49 GMT -5
Yeah I'd 100% rather have Quintana than Dalbec. Only way Dalbec gets to the majors is in the bullpen, and even that is doubtful obviously. I'd love to be wrong, but Dalbec's K% is astronomically high. I'm sure someone thought that about Gallo too. I know that's a stretch, but we don't know anything certain. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 15, 2016 14:51:15 GMT -5
Yeah I'd 100% rather have Quintana than Dalbec. Only way Dalbec gets to the majors is in the bullpen, and even that is doubtful obviously. I'd love to be wrong, but Dalbec's K% is astronomically high. I'm sure someone thought that about Gallo too. I know that's a stretch, but we don't know anything certain. Dalbec's power numbers aren't close to as impressive and without checking they're probably the same age. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 15, 2016 15:01:03 GMT -5
1 hour to go.
tic toc, tic toc
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jul 15, 2016 15:11:42 GMT -5
Yeah I'd 100% rather have Quintana than Dalbec. Only way Dalbec gets to the majors is in the bullpen, and even that is doubtful obviously. I'd love to be wrong, but Dalbec's K% is astronomically high. Sorry to ask, but does this mean K-rate as a hitter, or K-rate as a pitcher? |
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Post by templeusox on Jul 15, 2016 15:12:14 GMT -5
Red Sox sent out this press release, so I assume this is all you're going to get:
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 15, 2016 16:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 15, 2016 17:26:20 GMT -5
Claiming Quintana not signing means a "blunder" on the Sox part sounds an awful lot like sour grapes for not signing him.
He can say in an interview that he's "signable" all he wants. he never gave a price, did he? If his price matched his talent, then why wasn't he drafted somewhere in the slot range for that asking price? The only answer I can come up with is his asking price to buy him out of college exceeds his talent level.
I wanted him signed, too. Not signing him would only be a blunder if we had a ton of extra cash to spend going to waste. My guess is that he really was plan B if Groome didn't sign.
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 15, 2016 17:31:24 GMT -5
Yeah I'd 100% rather have Quintana than Dalbec. Only way Dalbec gets to the majors is in the bullpen, and even that is doubtful obviously. I'd love to be wrong, but Dalbec's K% is astronomically high. I'm sure someone thought that about Gallo too. I know that's a stretch, but we don't know anything certain. I actually view Dalbec as a Gallo lite. There are some definite similarites with Dalbec having a harder path to take to reach Gallo's level and an even higher bust rate. Whether he pans our or not, he was still the right pick, in my opinion. |
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Post by templeusox on Jul 15, 2016 17:36:14 GMT -5
I'm sure someone thought that about Gallo too. I know that's a stretch, but we don't know anything certain. I actually view Dalbec as a Gallo lite. There are some definite similarites with Dalbec having a harder path to take to reach Gallo's level and an even higher bust rate. Whether he pans our or not, he was still the right pick, in my opinion. Just because they both have swing-and-miss in their games doesn't mean their comparable. Gallo was in the majors when he was 21. Dalbec couldn't be bothered to hit in a super-weak PAC-12. |
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Post by jhenrywaugh, prop. on Jul 15, 2016 17:58:20 GMT -5
I'm sure someone thought that about Gallo too. I know that's a stretch, but we don't know anything certain. I actually view Dalbec as a Gallo lite. There are some definite similarites with Dalbec having a harder path to take to reach Gallo's level and an even higher bust rate. Whether he pans our or not, he was still the right pick, in my opinion. Gallo himself is not exactly established. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 15, 2016 18:01:23 GMT -5
Have to say I am very disappointed. I figured we would sign at least one more lottery ticket prospect. I love the Groome pick, I just question how we handled the picks after the first round.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 15, 2016 18:52:22 GMT -5
Have to say I am very disappointed. I figured we would sign at least one more lottery ticket prospect. I love the Groome pick, I just question how we handled the picks after the first round. 2012 was the disappointment draft as soon as the choices were announced, save for possibly Light back then. Groome alone makes this one worthwhile and full of hope. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 15, 2016 21:32:16 GMT -5
Have to say I am very disappointed. I figured we would sign at least one more lottery ticket prospect. I love the Groome pick, I just question how we handled the picks after the first round. 2012 was the disappointment draft as soon as the choices were announced, save for possibly Light back then. Groome alone makes this one worthwhile and full of hope. I think your a little harsh on 2012 draft. It hasn't worked out, but I liked Johnson , Callahan, Buttrey, Fulmer and Bregman picks. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2016 5:58:10 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 16, 2016 8:42:40 GMT -5
For comparison's sake, in the last three drafts (2013-2015), the Red Sox have only failed to sign a total of 3 players from Rounds 11-20. In this draft alone, 4 went unsigned from Rounds 11-20. A little surprising that the extra 100k+ couldn't net a little more. That said, I'm not sure guys like Wilson, Capanna, and others were even offered more than 100k. All in all, this is a relatively minor nitpick in a strong draft, but it does feel like more could of been done in those rounds in particular.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 16, 2016 9:28:24 GMT -5
I agree. Also there a number of organizational fillers in the group that signed such as Lovullo.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 16, 2016 10:36:07 GMT -5
To me the real disappointment is finishing in last place and having 19th in bonus allotment. That's the real issue. It's not like the Sox tried to tank either.
One more thing the price DD paid makes all the other pieces before the deadline that much more expensive for the competition.
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Post by eagleeye9184 on Jul 16, 2016 11:25:45 GMT -5
Whatever gaps that may exist currently in the system, due to the lesser numbers signed internationally or in the MLB draft, I would expect the Sox to more than make up for next year with over the cap spending on the international front. The depth can be replenished with $, which the Sox have plenty of.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 16, 2016 12:13:21 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect. Any poster on this site could have made that pick. A huge blunder. But still better than DD. |
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 16, 2016 12:33:10 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect. I assume if we drafted him that would have meant no Andrew Benintendi |
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Post by bjb406 on Jul 16, 2016 13:46:15 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect. I assume if we drafted him that would have meant no Andrew Benintendi Why? Since when do the Sox, or anyone else in MLB for that matter, choose their first round picks based on what is already in the system? |
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 16, 2016 13:59:36 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect. There was one, maybe two people on this site who AT THE TIME OF THE DRAFT wanted Meadows. If that was you, link to the post in your signature. If not, quit beating that dead horse already. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2016 14:01:49 GMT -5
Speaking of disappointment drafts how about 2013? Meadows is now a top ten prospect. There was one, maybe two people on this site who AT THE TIME OF THE DRAFT wanted Meadows. If that was you, link to it in your signature. If not, quit beating that dead horse already. Thats not true at all, I was on the thread when they made the pick. Its actually still in the archives so I can say with certainty that is wrong. |
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 16, 2016 14:05:59 GMT -5
There was one, maybe two people on this site who AT THE TIME OF THE DRAFT wanted Meadows. If that was you, link to it in your signature. If not, quit beating that dead horse already. Thats not true at all, I was on the thread when they made the pick. Its probably still in the archives somewhere. Then that's what you should find and link to. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2016 14:07:19 GMT -5
Thats not true at all, I was on the thread when they made the pick. Its probably still in the archives somewhere. Then that's what you should find and link to. Click on The Archives and click on page 3. |
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