2017 Patriots Off-season

Marcus Cannon, Brady, Edelman, Hightower, Amendola, and Dion Lewis have taken less to stay in New England.

Cannon was set to become a free agent this offseason before he signed a extension.

Brady is the only player there that we know took less.

Cannon and Lewis you need to take into account when they signed their deals. Lewis was literally out of football - had a couple good games and jumped on security then literally blew out his knee shortly after. Hardly did the team a favor... Cannon was pretty mediocre for a couple years then had a couple good months and the team signed him to a very fair deal so he took it. He wasn't an All-pro when he signed his deal.

Edelman went out into market and no one offered him anything better than the Pats so he came back. Thankfully


Amendola, you are just speculating... I don't know what you expect him to get on the open market. I love the guy - he's a great addition to the team but he's not a top receiver. He comes up big in big spots but he's not a featured guy for a reason.

Oh and Hightower didn't really take less to return.

I'd also like to point out 3 relevant things.

1. If a player takes less money somewhere that doesn't mean money wasn't the most important thing in his decision:

In basics terms, if the Jets offered Hightower 1m extra a year than the Patriots but he chose to come back to he Patriots does that mean he valued relationships over money? 10m a year is a lot of scratch so what it means is the money he's getting plus all the other things (relationships - comfort of the situation - winning - not moving your family etc) is more important than the money and the things he's getting in New York. Money was still the biggest thing because he's not coming back for 5 a year.


2. You have no way to truly compare football contracts without seeing the terms side by side. Guaranteed money comes in two forms. Signing bonus and guaranteed salaries. If the Jets offered him 4/48 with 22 guarantee that doesn't mean he was likely to get close to as much money as he would under the Pats deal of 4/43.75 with 19 guaranteed.

Theoretical to prove a point.

Jets deal:
8m signing bonus.
Year 1: 6m (guaranteed)
Year 2: 8m (guaranteed)
Year 3: 12m (4m dead money if cut save 10)
Year 4: 14m (2m dead money if cut save 14)

Patriots deal:
16m signing bonus
Year 1: 3m (guaranteed)
Year 2: 6.75m (12m dead money cost extra 1.75)
Year 3: 8m (8m dead money if cut no savings)
Year 4: 10m (4m dead money if cut save 10)

In both deals the 3 year totals are nearly identical but he is at risk of never seeing the 3rd year in the Jets deal and almost certainly won't have a chance of seeing the 4th...

3. Reported deals aren't actual deals - need the details. Remember when Gilmore had 40m guaranteed but it's really 31.5. Remember when Guys contract was for 20m not the 13.5 it actually is? If done deals are that way what in the hell do you think reported offers are?

I know we disagree on this point but I would really rather trade JG with the expectation that TB is going to be the same great player for another 3+ years. I get excited about the thought of having the 12th pick and maybe a 2nd or 3rd also to make the team that much deeper. Unlike myself, BB must feel that JG could lead them to a SB if Tom went down. I just feel the added top picks would bring more value than a backup QB.

I'm wrong on Solder for sure. Per @patscap, his extension would free space.

Brady would increase hit for sure but the Solder info has me questioning impact of extensions on others.

I thought last year that Miguel was projecting that they use cap space to do some deals during the season.

Of course, Brady is an outlier due to his ridiculous salary this year ($1MN)

Edit: Reaching out to Miguel but it's possible that extensions for guys off their rookie deals could cost. Extensions for those already on a subsequent deal could save.

Edit2: based on a response to someone else, looks like JE11 would use space to extend as well.

And the restructure of Amendola.

I've read through most of the thread, but could someone please explain Amendola's situation right now? I was under the belief that the Pats would need to restructure his contract in order to keep him for this year.

Is that still what they need to do?
If so, how likely is that to happen after all the moves they've already made during this offseason?

Edit: I don't care about the specifics of his contract, and/or what his salary would need to be. I'm just curious as to where he lies in the team's plans.

Why?  Do you get refunds if ex-players kill count get to 3 people?

I take it we get to void guaranteed money or at least get a credit.

Because they get some credit back for the some bonus money which apparently double murder violates the terms of. I can't explain to you the details but it's real, they likely get a 3.5m credit if convicted.. no idea why he needs to be convicted but that's the case.

It's just funny that being convicted of one murder while under contract isn't enough. It takes a murder before signing contract.