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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 8:25:27 GMT -5
I think there's a good chance that happens.... or they draft one if Blount gets too much somewhere else.. he did just score 18 TD and break 1,000
Yards afterall
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 13:11:52 GMT -5
Schefter is reporting that the Patriots have no intention of moving Garrapolo. It's significant because of the source.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2017 13:19:21 GMT -5
Schefter is reporting that the Patriots have no intention of moving Garrapolo. It's significant because of the source. Maybe they're just trying to up the cost. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2017 13:21:44 GMT -5
Schefter is reporting that the Patriots have no intention of moving Garrapolo. It's significant because of the source. Hahaha did you expect anything else to come out?? That's 100% Patriots trying to drive up price. They are very tight lipped, so the fact this can out is a clear sign to me that they are playing the market. The Pat's were never going to say our plan this year is to trade Jimmy. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 13:25:12 GMT -5
You and your laughing makes you seems super pompous and ignorant... just saying
Beyond that Schefter is generally a reliable source of information. He's like the WOJO of football in that regard. Does it mean it's true? Of course not nothing can be counted as 100% true but no one should be surprised if their plan is to hold on to him.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 13:29:22 GMT -5
Btw... I'm gonna preemptively apologize for that statement. The point is you're a good poster and contribute good back and forth conversation even when we often disagree. Try not to ruin things by belittling posts that don't need to be belittled. Just disagree or bring up another side without the extras. Wouldn't say anything but it's happened quite a bit and even if you don't mean it to come across that way it does.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2017 13:40:50 GMT -5
You and your laughing makes you seems super pompous and ignorant... just saying Beyond that Schefter is generally a reliable source of information. He's like the WOJO of football in that regard. Does it mean it's true? Of course not nothing can be counted as 100% true but no one should be surprised if their plan is to hold on to him. I don't even think it's saying anything. They have no intention of moving him implies the rest of the missing sentence - "unless they are convinced to" They didn't say they're not moving him under any circumstances. |
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2017 13:58:02 GMT -5
I just saw that the NFL is allowing the trading of compensatory draft picks now. Cleveland got 4 of them.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2017 14:18:47 GMT -5
I just saw that the NFL is allowing the trading of compensatory draft picks now. Cleveland got 4 of them. We traded Collins for one. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2017 14:26:45 GMT -5
Btw... I'm gonna preemptively apologize for that statement. The point is you're a good poster and contribute good back and forth conversation even when we often disagree. Try not to ruin things by belittling posts that don't need to be belittled. Just disagree or bring up another side without the extras. Wouldn't say anything but it's happened quite a bit and even if you don't mean it to come across that way it does. I'm sorry, but it was funny. Almost nothing that comes out about Patriots is significant, when it comes to what they might do or not do. The simple fact that anyone with Pat's is talking about Jimmy with Schefter likely means Bill wants him too. Your a die-hard Pat's fan you know this. |
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 1, 2017 14:41:22 GMT -5
I do think there are certain types of character issues that they'd stay away from, namely violence against women and children. Call it the ghost of Myra looking over their shoulders. I agree to a point, but only if they think it will lead to enough of a distraction to negate the player's value. Same goes for whether or not a player is good or bad in the locker room. If they feel a player's production on the field outweighs those other things, they're tend to ignore off the field issues. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 1, 2017 15:29:21 GMT -5
In regards to AP and his use of a switch on his son, since I am the one who brought up the idea of signing him I feel compelled to respond. I do not in anyway shape or form condone hitting a child with anything let alone a stick. That said I do understand the cultural differences within this country. I have done a fair amount of traveling and there are things that are acceptable in this world that are just plain wrong in my eyes. AP was brought up getting hit by a switch, thus his idea of parenting is affected by that. I guess it is an accepted practice in the South. I think you have to take all information into account.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 15:34:08 GMT -5
In regards to AP and his use of a switch on his son, since I am the one who brought up the idea of signing him I feel compelled to respond. I do not in anyway shape or form condone hitting a child with anything let alone a stick. That said I do understand the cultural differences within this country. I have done a fair amount of traveling and there are things that are acceptable in this world that are just plain wrong in my eyes. AP was brought up getting hit by a switch, thus his idea of parenting is affected by that. I guess it is an accepted practice in the South. I think you have to take all information into account. I don't disagree; but my bringing up the Switch thing had more to do with what wcp posted above... I don't think AP is a bad person because of that event. He handled it about as well as one could have, but his play doesn't warrant the potential distraction. Plus, the Krafts are pretty far out on the domestic violence limb. Christian Peter is still a black eye and they were extremely vocal after the Ray Rice stuff. And there is a major difference between hitting your kids in a disciplinary sense and hitting your wife, girlfriend or kids because you're being an asshole. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 17:44:40 GMT -5
Chris Long stated today he's not returning to the Patriots. Wants a bigger role
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2017 18:14:34 GMT -5
Adam Schefter on @omfonweei: "Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be on the Patriots in 2017 no matter who calls them and what anybody offers."
I've never thought of Schefter as a mouth piece before but that could change quickly.
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Post by costpet on Mar 2, 2017 9:26:32 GMT -5
Cleveland has a ton of draft picks, which they need to fill a lot of holes. What they don't have is a franchise type quarterback and, in this league, without one you go nowhere. Is there a college QB that fills that need? I haven't seen one. Everyone thinks they're going to take a DE. Has a DE ever taken a team to the SB? QB's do. So, if I'm Cleveland, I'm offering the first pick in the draft and the first pick in the 2nd round for Jimmy G. That gets them the QB they need to finally winning again and they can use all the other picks to strengthen their team. They can also sign free agents, as Jimmy G. costs them almost nothing in salary this year. They're in a great position, which might not ever happen again. So, call me crazy ("you're crazy!"), but if you analyze it, it might be a smart move. At least, think about it.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 2, 2017 9:51:19 GMT -5
But part of the value of the #1 pick is the years you get that "franchise level player" at relatively cheap. You only get 1 of those for Jimmy G. Then, you are paying top dollar (unless he's a bust).
You also don't do that because you don't HAVE to do it. I'd be shocked to hear that NE is demanding #1 overall.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 2, 2017 13:11:45 GMT -5
Cleveland has a ton of draft picks, which they need to fill a lot of holes. What they don't have is a franchise type quarterback and, in this league, without one you go nowhere. Is there a college QB that fills that need? I haven't seen one. Everyone thinks they're going to take a DE. Has a DE ever taken a team to the SB? QB's do. So, if I'm Cleveland, I'm offering the first pick in the draft and the first pick in the 2nd round for Jimmy G. That gets them the QB they need to finally winning again and they can use all the other picks to strengthen their team. They can also sign free agents, as Jimmy G. costs them almost nothing in salary this year. They're in a great position, which might not ever happen again. So, call me crazy ("you're crazy!"), but if you analyze it, it might be a smart move. At least, think about it. You have to look at that from Clevelands point of view. Yes they need a QB, but why offer that much? Your basically saying only way Pat's trade Jimmy is for the first pick in first and second round. Do you believe that? You don't think #12 pick isn't enough? Or the #12 pick and a second rounder isn't enough? Even the #1 pick in draft isn't enough? Only reports we have are from mid season when a source said the price for Jimmy would start at what Vikings gave up for Bradford. A first and 4th round pick, that were suppose to be back end of each round. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 3, 2017 6:18:57 GMT -5
One report has Jimmy G being kept no matter the cost and another report says that the Patriots expect 2 offers for Jimmy G this week.
When did the NFL turn into the NBA in terms of trade fodder?
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Post by costpet on Mar 3, 2017 8:23:22 GMT -5
The answer, of course, is nobody knows. Can you read Belichick's mind? Can anybody? Reports are nothing but speculation. Nobody has any inside information. I think its a wait and see situation. Let's see what they offer. If it's overwhelming, then they go for it. If not, keep him for another year. That's not so bad. If Brady starts to show his age, you have the next quarterback in place. If not, you can tag Jimmy G., then trade him to the highest bidder. The Pats have all the cards. They just need to decide how to play them.
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Post by dakotaskye on Mar 3, 2017 8:36:26 GMT -5
More than AP, I'm intrigued with the idea of Brandon Marshall on the Pats next year. I like his upside a whole lot more than Michael Floyd, and if they resign Blount, I'd feel pretty good about their RB position. Thoughts?
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2017 8:47:59 GMT -5
One report has Jimmy G being kept no matter the cost and another report says that the Patriots expect 2 offers for Jimmy G this week. When did the NFL turn into the NBA in terms of trade fodder? Those statements aren't completely accurate or mutually exclusive. The first is accurate but the second is that they have already received the frame work of an offer and it's expected another team to make one, not that the Patriots are expecting one (at least what I read) Also, a team can keep a player and expect offers. And we know that there is never a truly untouchable player no matter what just players who the costs are so high for that it makes no sense. |
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Post by jmei on Mar 3, 2017 12:28:13 GMT -5
More than AP, I'm intrigued with the idea of Brandon Marshall on the Pats next year. I like his upside a whole lot more than Michael Floyd, and if they resign Blount, I'd feel pretty good about their RB position. Thoughts? Receivers need to be able to run precise routes in this offense. That's never been Marshall's strength. I don't see him as much of a fit. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2017 12:32:23 GMT -5
More than AP, I'm intrigued with the idea of Brandon Marshall on the Pats next year. I like his upside a whole lot more than Michael Floyd, and if they resign Blount, I'd feel pretty good about their RB position. Thoughts? Receivers need to be able to run precise routes in this offense. That's never been Marshall's strength. I don't see him as much of a fit. That and if Danny is back we really don't need a guy like Marshall... do we have much reason to not want Mitchell getting those snaps? Plus, pretty sure a player doing Showtime during the year won't fly here |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 3, 2017 15:20:48 GMT -5
One report has Jimmy G being kept no matter the cost and another report says that the Patriots expect 2 offers for Jimmy G this week. When did the NFL turn into the NBA in terms of trade fodder? Those statements aren't completely accurate or mutually exclusive. The first is accurate but the second is that they have already received the frame work of an offer and it's expected another team to make one, not that the Patriots are expecting one (at least what I read) Also, a team can keep a player and expect offers. And we know that there is never a truly untouchable player no matter what just players who the costs are so high for that it makes no sense. Except Tom Brady of the Patriots. |
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