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Post-Draft Discussion Thread
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 2, 2017 15:16:22 GMT -5
This is confusing. How did he commit to FIU a year ago and just graduate from high school this year? Early commit. See NCAAB I think. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 2, 2017 15:22:19 GMT -5
My bad on that, too. Never thought it would be from 2016. So there's still hope for Oraj Anu, but it would not be surprising to see him go to college. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 2, 2017 15:24:15 GMT -5
My bad on that, too. Never thought it would be from 2016. So there's still hope for Oraj Anu, but it would not be surprising to see him go to college. Yeah, I don't expect him to sign either way. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 2, 2017 15:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by iii on Jul 2, 2017 15:52:05 GMT -5
a 5 tool, well maybe 4 1/2, type.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 2, 2017 16:52:20 GMT -5
So by Friday we will know if Thompson has signed?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 2, 2017 17:00:48 GMT -5
So by Friday we will know if Thompson has signed? Correct. Friday is the signing deadline. |
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 2, 2017 17:35:43 GMT -5
I was looking around I noticed the 30th rd pick Andrew Carber according to Field Level, is going to sign with the Red Sox. Who knows just putting it out there.
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Post by widewordofsport on Jul 2, 2017 19:18:44 GMT -5
So assuming there's no "gonna lose a first round pick because Thompson changed his mind" type of crap, its been a decent draft class for Red Sox that sounds like could still make at least a couple of Perry, Dearden, Durden, and Thompson official? Not bad.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jul 2, 2017 20:41:32 GMT -5
So by Friday we will know if Thompson has signed? Correct. Friday is the signing deadline. Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the original signing deadline for this year was July 15. I've seen other sources now saying that the 7th is the deadline, but when/how/why did it get changed? |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 2, 2017 21:08:41 GMT -5
Correct. Friday is the signing deadline. Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the original signing deadline for this year was July 15. I've seen other sources now saying that the 7th is the deadline, but when/how/why did it get changed? It didn't get changed. Everyone assumes it's the 15th. Turned out it was the 7th when it was announced. Might've been part of the new CBA (which still hasn't actually be released yet, btw) or something. |
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Post by boydhurstlovechild on Jul 3, 2017 0:01:50 GMT -5
Still hoping for Anu, although I agree the circumstances and athletic profile suggest he would be best served going to school. Also, I think it's more accurate to label him as a 4 tool prospect. His arm seems to be below average. His power/speed combo though.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 3, 2017 6:46:03 GMT -5
Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the original signing deadline for this year was July 15. I've seen other sources now saying that the 7th is the deadline, but when/how/why did it get changed? It didn't get changed. Everyone assumes it's the 15th. Turned out it was the 7th when it was announced. Might've been part of the new CBA (which still hasn't actually be released yet, btw) or something. How would you rate this draft? On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the high. then which draft would you say is better this year's or last? |
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Post by buttclown on Jul 3, 2017 8:46:25 GMT -5
I'd give it a 7, solid draft that is deep but lacking high-end talent (not their fault really, given their draft position). I like the depth of this years' crop more but obviously no prospect can compare to Jay Groome so I'd say last years' draft is better.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 3, 2017 9:17:29 GMT -5
I would also give it a 7, and rate this year's draft better than last year's due to more of a focus on younger guys like Brannen, Scherff, etc as well as much better talent signed post round 10, including Perry, Dearden, etc
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Post by alex710707 on Jul 3, 2017 10:12:08 GMT -5
I would give it a 9, it's almost impossible to get a Jason Groome or Forrest Whitley at 24th. I like Shane Baz, Bubba Thompson, Tristen Lutz, Ryan Vilade, Mark Vientos, Matt Sauer.
Baz was picket by PIT at 13th. At first, I would like they picked either of Bubba Thompson Tristen Lutz, Ryan Vilade, Mark Vientos, Matt Sauer at 24th and Cole Brannen at 2nd round. However, that means 3rd~10th round will be average or below average coolege guys.
Tanner Houck is an okay pick at 24th. I think FO have done the best they can. All kinds of tool of top 10 rounds.
High upside: Cole Brannen, Alex Scherff, Tyler Esplin
Not bad upside with low risk: Tanner Houck, Brett Netzer
Guys with good tool: Jake Thompson, Zach Schellenger, Zach Sterry (Although not sure if we can sign Jake Thompson)
They also sign 7 HS player after 10 rounds: Andre Colon, Beau Hanna, Aaron Perry, Angel Gonzalez, Xavier LeGrant, Luis Torres, Jecorrah Arnold
One of these 7 HS player reach Major league would be great for us.
Based on our draft order and slot money. I think they did a wonderful job this year (Both draft and international signing.)
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 3, 2017 10:51:04 GMT -5
I would give it a 9, it's almost impossible to get a Jason Groome or Forrest Whitley at 24th. I like Shane Baz, Bubba Thompson, Tristen Lutz, Ryan Vilade, Mark Vientos, Matt Sauer. Baz was picket by PIT at 13th. At first, I would like they picked either of Bubba Thompson Tristen Lutz, Ryan Vilade, Mark Vientos, Matt Sauer at 24th and Cole Brannen at 2nd round. However, that means 3rd~10th round will be average or below average coolege guys. Tanner Houck is an okay pick at 24th. I think FO have done the best they can. All kinds of tool of top 10 rounds. High upside: Cole Brannen, Alex Scherff, Tyler Esplin Not bad upside with low risk: Tanner Houck, Brett Netzer Guys with good tool: Jake Thompson, Zach Schellenger, Zach Sterry (Although not sure if we can sign Jake Thompson) They also sign 7 HS player after 10 rounds: Andre Colon, Beau Hanna, Aaron Perry, Angel Gonzalez, Xavier LeGrant, Luis Torres, Jecorrah Arnold One of these 7 HS player reach Major league would be great for us. Based on our draft order and slot money. I think they did a wonderful job this year (Both draft and international signing.) Fair and balanced is no way to talk about our GM.  |
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Post by buttclown on Jul 3, 2017 10:59:41 GMT -5
Yeah at the start of the year with every single Yankee outperforming their 99th% expectation (Judge is for real, but Hicks and Didi...come on...), our team struggling and Groome getting hurt I was feeling pretty down.
Now the MLB team is making slow and steady strides and we had a solid draft and have done very well internationally. Combine that with some inevitable NYY regression and guys like Chavis and Mata adding a bit of luster to our farm and things could be worse
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Post by ramireja on Jul 3, 2017 12:11:41 GMT -5
I love this draft and would give it an 8.5 or 9. Still need Thompson to sign, and need to make the Perry, Dearden, and Durden agreements/signings official. Assuming they do, I believe this is my favorite draft since the CBA changes in 2012 in terms of assessing the draft after the signings period.
Reasons why I'm big on this draft:
- Houck was my BPA on my personal board when the Sox picked. I also liked Canning originally but I'll have to assume the concern regarding his medicals were legit. Houck has both a nice floor and upside and makes a lot of sense at that pick.
- I think Scherff is probably the best pick we've made past Round 2 since 2012. Tons of upside there and that could be huge for this draft.
- They spent the vast majority of their cap space between Rounds 1-10, primarily to sign Brannen and Scherff. That said, they were still very aggressive past Round 10, and despite not having extra funds to spend in this rounds, they did their homework and found a great number of players to sign at 125k or under. The collection of Perry, Dearden, Hanna, Colon, Gonzalez, et al., is very impressive considering the allocation of funds in the first 10 rounds.
- Overall, it looks like we're signing 12 HS/JC guys, although that number could change +- 1 before Friday. Assuming its 12, that compares very well to past years. Last year I'm counting 7 HS/JC signings (9 if you include Houellemont and Alexander Martinez), and in 2015 I'm seeing only 6 HS/JC signings. I'm a big believer in adding young talent: the range of outcomes is severe, but thats the exact reason why you want to maximize the number of signings.....although some may never see AAA, others will become regulars despite relative anonymity heading into the draft. They're lottery tickets, and you want as many lottery tickets as possible. On top of that, I think the quality of these guys could surprise after a 1 or 2 of development in the system. These guys seem to be coming into the system with some intriguing tools (Scherff: FB, changeup; Brannen: speed, hit tool; Esplin: hit tool, raw power; Hanna: raw power; Gonzalez: overall athleticism; Dearden: bat speed; Perry: FB, slider).
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 3, 2017 13:47:08 GMT -5
Thompson is still the iffy one. As soon as Brannen's 400k overslot was announced, then the savings saved (rightfully so) on Schreff earlier on him it looked like he in particular could possibly be an issue to me. It was a guess of course. Maybe things are fine and will work out, tho it won't surprise me if he continues into the draft until next year and had this thought right after the sign of Brannen.
Hopefully Perry can still be gotten as a secondary prize regardless should Thompson not.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 3, 2017 13:54:24 GMT -5
On Thompson, none of the Oregon State guys have signed yet (KJ Harrison, Drew Rasmussen). I still think he signs.
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Post by iii on Jul 3, 2017 17:36:55 GMT -5
Still hoping for Anu, although I agree the circumstances and athletic profile suggest he would be best served going to school. Also, I think it's more accurate to label him as a 4 tool prospect. His arm seems to be below average. His power/speed combo though. I think he will go back to school, but I think it will have more to do with his family not his need to improve his skill set. He can afford to wait another year to improve his draft position. Good player to take a shot at in the 28th round. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 3, 2017 17:40:19 GMT -5
They have $3,265 left if Thompson doesn't sign. Nobody's getting much more than $125K if he doesn't sign.
If he does sign, they have the difference between $421K and whatever he signs for.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 3, 2017 17:41:41 GMT -5
Still hoping for Anu, although I agree the circumstances and athletic profile suggest he would be best served going to school. Also, I think it's more accurate to label him as a 4 tool prospect. His arm seems to be below average. His power/speed combo though. I think he will go back to school, but I think it will have more to do with his family not his need to improve his skill set. He can afford to wait another year to improve his draft position. Good player to take a shot at in the 28th round. Three years. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 5, 2017 14:43:53 GMT -5
Odd situation playing out with Drew Rasmussen (Rays supp-1st rounder):
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