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Patriots Offseason Thread
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Post by tns on Apr 26, 2013 19:27:38 GMT -5
Name we've definitely mentioned here on the board this offseason, Aaron Dobson (WR - Marshall) is the Patriots' pick at 59.
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Post by jmei on Apr 26, 2013 19:49:57 GMT -5
Nice size-speed combo with great hands and the ability to beat press coverage. He didn't have good QB play in college, so don't worry about the mediocre statistical production. Not the most precise route-runner and didn't play in a pro-style offense or run a full route tree in college, but he's got good upside and is more polished than you'd think (more than Terrence Williams, for example).
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Post by tns on Apr 26, 2013 20:41:41 GMT -5
Pats took Logan Ryan (CB - Rutgers) at 83
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Post by jmei on Apr 26, 2013 21:04:29 GMT -5
Great fit for the system as a zone corner-- excellent in run support and terrific agility. Mediocre straight-line speed and unimpressive ball skills, but physical and fluid in coverage (enough to succeed in man schemes too). He'll fit in great backing up Talib and Dennard in year one, with the potential to develop into a solid starter. High-end projection would be what we'd hoped McCourty would be at CB with a few fewer picks: aggressive in run support, good in coverage, but not a true shutdown corner and one who probably needs safety help on the back end.
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Post by tns on Apr 26, 2013 21:08:37 GMT -5
Pats take Duron Harmon (S - Rutgers) at 91
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Post by jmei on Apr 26, 2013 21:11:19 GMT -5
Eh, would have preferred Quinton Patton or Jesse Williams or Brian Schwenke. Think we could have gotten Harmon in round 4 if Belichick really wanted him.
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Post by rangoon82 on Apr 26, 2013 21:28:01 GMT -5
So the Pats have Rutger's defensive backfield now. Reiss said scout's inc graded out Harmon as the 26th overall safety this year... I guess Volmer was in the same boat and worked out well so we'll see. Hopefully the Tavon Wilsons and Duron Harmons end up working out. In any case it seems like the Pats built depth at two key areas of need today - WR and pass defense.
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Post by jmei on Apr 26, 2013 21:32:08 GMT -5
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Post by rangoon82 on Apr 26, 2013 21:38:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a stand up guy. |
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Post by tns on Apr 27, 2013 0:04:35 GMT -5
There's good info on Jamie Collins (#52 pick) on CBS Boston: |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2013 0:06:58 GMT -5
Good they found the deep threat I was looking for, a pass rusher and DB fodder. The last two picks were meh but I don't know much about the NFL so I don't care.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 27, 2013 1:57:04 GMT -5
Not the most precise route-runner and didn't play in a pro-style offense or run a full route tree in college Yup, those dudes always turn out to be good pros. |
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 27, 2013 6:39:26 GMT -5
I don't understand the Harmon pick as he likely would have been available in the 7th round. They could have grabbed Stedman Bailey, WVU WR, which would have given them some protection if Dobson fails to produce or Amendola gets hurt. Bailey had 25 tds last year. I don't get BB's fascination with Rutgers guys, particularly given that the majority of them have flopped in the NFL, with the exception of Ray Rice. Here's hoping the hoodie has filled his quota of Scarlet Knights and drafts a WR, DL or OL in the next few picks. here are Kiper's best available on Day 3. insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9214912/2013-nfl-draft-matt-barkley-leads-top-10-best-players-available-day-3 |
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Post by jmei on Apr 27, 2013 10:59:48 GMT -5
Not the most precise route-runner and didn't play in a pro-style offense or run a full route tree in college Yup, those dudes always turn out to be good pros. Eh, that's true with pretty much every wide receiver. Maybe a half-dozen programs run a pro-style offense in any given year, and even in most of those, players don't have to independently make adjustments at the line of scrimmage like they do in many NFL offenses. One good sign: Belichick raved about his football intelligence: |
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Post by tns on Apr 27, 2013 11:22:51 GMT -5
Pats take Josh Boyce (TCU - WR) at 102.
Boyce ran an unofficial 4.38 40 at the Combine with a broken pinkie toe. Tough kid with vertical speed whose production was limited by terrible QB play.
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Post by jmei on Apr 27, 2013 11:24:46 GMT -5
I love me some Josh Boyce. Great pick.
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Post by tns on Apr 27, 2013 13:35:55 GMT -5
I figured I'll mention this while we're in limbo waiting for the Patriots next 3 selections in the 7th round, I love what the 49ers have done in this draft so far. They've been building depth at positions of need while getting value and upside exceeding draft position on each pick across the board. It's tough to grade drafts on paper but I think it's safe to say they look like one of this weekend's winners.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2013 14:00:00 GMT -5
I agree they got a guy I really liked in Tank Carradine a pass rusher plus added some depth at other positions. They really look like a solid organization right now.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2013 15:16:27 GMT -5
So apparently the Pats traded ATH Jeff Demps and a 7th round pick for RB Legarrette Blount.
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Post by rangoon82 on Apr 27, 2013 16:03:58 GMT -5
So apparently the Pats traded ATH Jeff Demps and a 7th round pick for RB Legarrette Blount. Weird. Pats backfield is already fairly crowded with Ridley, Vereen, Bolden and Washington. I wonder if this puts Bolden on the bubble. |
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 27, 2013 23:12:40 GMT -5
Undrafted free agent signings (15):
CB Stephon Morris, Penn State
CB Brandon Jones, Rutgers (really)
S Kanorris Davis, Troy
DT Cory Grissom, South Florida
RB Quentin Hines, Akron
FB Ben Bartholomew, Tennessee
TE Zach Sudfeld, Nevada
TE Brandon Ford, Clemson
OL Matt Stankiewitch, Penn State
OL Elvis Fisher, Missouri
OL Chris McDonald, Michigan State (note: he is Nick McDonald's younger brother)
OL Josh Kline, Kent State
WR T.J. Moe, Missouri
WR Kenbrell Thompkins, Cincinnati
P Ryan Allen, Louisiana Tech
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 29, 2013 8:08:27 GMT -5
Pats also signed NT Dwayne Cherrington, Mississippi State, LB Ian Sluss, Portland State, DL Joe Vellano, Maryland, and LS Mike Zupancic, Eastern Michigan, and released WR Jeremy Ebert, TE Brad Herman, FB Tony Fiammetta, DT Tracy Robertson, and CB Malcolm Williams. Roster now at 89.
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 29, 2013 16:22:13 GMT -5
Current roster (89, limit is 90). Age in parentheses.
QB (3): Tom Brady (35), Ryan Mallett (24), Mike Kafka (25)
RB/FB (6): Stevan Ridley (24), Shane Vereen (24), Brandon Bolden (23), Leon Washington (30), LaGarrett Blount (26), James Develin (24)
WR (7): Danny Amendola (27), Julian Edelman (26), Lavelle Hawkins (26), Donald Jones (25), Michael Jenkins (30), Matthew Slater (27), Kamar Aiken (23)
TE (5): Rob Gronkowski (23), Aaron Hernandez (23), Jake Ballard (25), Michael Hoomanawanui (24), Daniel Fells (29)
T (5): Nate Solder (24), Sebastian Vollmer (28), Will Svitek (31), Tyronne Green (27), Markus Zusevics (23)
G/C (5): Logan Mankins (31), Dan Connolly (30), Ryan Wendell (27), Marcus Cannon (24), Nick McDonald (25)
DL (5): Vince Wilfork (30), Tommy Kelly (32), Kyle Love (26), Armond Armstead (22), Marcus Forston (23)
DE/OLB (7): Rob Ninkovich (29), Chandler Jones (23), Jermaine Cunningham (24), Jake Bequette (23), Justin Francis (24), Marcus Benard (27), Jason Vega (25)
LB (7): Jerod Mayo (27), Dont'a Hightower (23), Brandon Spikes (25), Dane Fletcher (26), Jeff Tarpinian (25), Mike Rivera (27), Niko Koutouvides (31)
CB (5): Aqib Talib (27), Alfonzo Dennard (23), Kyle Arrington (25), Ras-I Dowling (24), Marquice Cole (29)
S (5): Devin McCourty (25), Adrian Wilson (33), Steve Gregory (30), Tavon Wilson (22), Nate Ebner (23)
ST (3): Stephen Gostkowski (29) (K), Zoltan Mesko (27) (P), Danny Aiken (24) (LS)
Draft picks (7)
DE/OLB Jamie Collins (23)
WR Aaron Dobson (21)
CB Logan Ryan (22)
S Duron Harmon (22)
WR Josh Boyce (21)
DE Michael Buchanan (22)
LB Steve Beauharnais (22)
Undrafted free agents (19):
CB Stephon Morris
CB Brandon Jones
S Kanorris Davis
DT Cory Grissom
DT Dwayne Cherrington
DL Joe Vellano
RB Akeem Shavers
FB Ben Bartholomew
WR T.J. Moe
WR Kenbrell Thompkins
TE Zach Sudfeld
TE Brandon Ford
OL Matt Stankiewitch
OL Elvis Fisher
OL Chris McDonald
OL Josh Kline
OL R.J. Mattes
P Ryan Allen
LS Mike Zupancic
Unrestricted FA: Josh Barrett (28), Deion Branch (33), Derrick Martin (27), Jamey Richard (28), Trevor Scott (28), Donte Stallworth (32), Tracy White (31)
EDIT: Updated for transactions through 5/13.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 30, 2013 15:11:18 GMT -5
Two receivers to keep an eye on for the later rounds-- Josh Boyce and Chris Harper. If you're not going to brag about it, I'll do it for you. |
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Post by amfox1 on May 6, 2013 19:08:34 GMT -5
RB Quentin Hines and LB Ian Sluss released. Current roster is at 87.
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