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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 8, 2019 15:01:01 GMT -5
I didn't watch the game, yet how did Brown not have good engery getting 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 5 personal fouls in 24 minutes while being plus 15? Looking at the boxscore I'd say if anything he was overly agressive. Rebounding is all about engery and effort.
115-102, 114-93, and 116-95
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 8, 2019 16:20:48 GMT -5
I didn't watch the game, yet how did Brown not have good engery getting 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 5 personal fouls in 24 minutes while being plus 15? Looking at the boxscore I'd say if anything he was overly agressive. Rebounding is all about engery and effort. 115-102, 114-93, and 116-95 I wasn’t specifically referring to last night if that’s what you thought. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 9, 2019 20:07:27 GMT -5
I just saw Kyrie do something for the first time, he cleared everyone out at the end of the half to go one on one and drew the defense in and kicked it out for a wide open corner 3 which Theis missed.... jkjk
Good first half for the team
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 9, 2019 21:02:22 GMT -5
Man I love this game. This game is exactly what had us all excited prior to the season. Just overpowering teams with talent. Tatum, Brown, Hayward all being unstoppable, with Morris developing into a legit scary option as a nice bonus. Then you also have Horford and Kyrie as a deadly guard/big man duo. And nice depth all around. Beautiful.
Hayward rounding into shape is seriously the best thing of the new year thus far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 9, 2019 21:19:05 GMT -5
Those last 3 buckets put them over 30 assists again - were at 28 with about 7 mins left and still there with 90 seconds left.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 9, 2019 21:21:02 GMT -5
Big win too; Celtics need to get into at a minimum the 3 seed to have a chance to get out of the East. Home Court is so important in the playoffs.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 9, 2019 22:32:29 GMT -5
Things seem to be working themselves out and the team is coming together (at a good time...and at last!).
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 10, 2019 20:32:03 GMT -5
Spoke too soon....
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 10, 2019 20:33:40 GMT -5
I hate scheduled losses. Why is the team flying from Boston to Miami on a back to back? The NBA irks me sometimes.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 10, 2019 21:29:15 GMT -5
I hate scheduled losses. Why is the team flying from Boston to Miami on a back to back? The NBA irks me sometimes. I've never really understood that concept - and it clearly affected some players more than others...didn't watch or listen, but seems like Brown, Rozier, Horford and Haywood were most impacted. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 10, 2019 22:27:24 GMT -5
I've never really understood that concept - and it clearly affected some players more than others...didn't watch or listen, but seems like Brown, Rozier, Horford and Haywood were most impacted. They played a hard game yesterday against a direct opponent and then had to get on a plane to Miami which is not really a short flight and had another game in 2 nights looming ominously. Why not make this an off night and get the Heat and Magic back to back instead when it's not done on a travel day? |
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Post by ianrs on Jan 10, 2019 23:09:30 GMT -5
Did anyone see that Morris shoved Brown and there was some shouting? Don't want to make much of it but still not a great look. Seems like too many cooks in the kitchen on this team.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 10, 2019 23:51:34 GMT -5
I've never really understood that concept - and it clearly affected some players more than others...didn't watch or listen, but seems like Brown, Rozier, Horford and Haywood were most impacted. They played a hard game yesterday against a direct opponent and then had to get on a plane to Miami which is not really a short flight and had another game in 2 nights looming ominously. Why not make this an off night and get the Heat and Magic back to back instead when it's not done on a travel day? Yes, I understand the point - but these are pros, the team is loaded. It would be interesting to see how real this occurrence is...how many talented teams end up losing due to travel. Reading Stevens' post game comments, seems like the team was getting too much early success from the outside, and that led to them not working hard to get inside shots when they ultimately cooled off. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 11, 2019 7:00:33 GMT -5
This team struggles with teams that can get inside especially ones with athletic bigs. Horford got destroyed.
Silver lining: Williams really helped them and they went on the run with him. He’s not completely ready yet but he looks legit; if he can put things together. More importantly, Barnes will be back and they miss him and his muscle. There’s a reason his defensive rating was so good last year; they need him.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 11, 2019 7:58:48 GMT -5
This team flat out stinks on the road, and it’s going to be a problem.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 11, 2019 8:54:37 GMT -5
Did anyone see that Morris shoved Brown and there was some shouting? Don't want to make much of it but still not a great look. Seems like too many cooks in the kitchen on this team. Jaylen put up a terrible layup and missed his guy on the ensuing transition. Morris was right to be pissed off, he got some leadership on Jaylen's face and received some salty words for it and got rightfully mad. Brown and Tatum need to be more intense on transition. Everyone misses shots, bad players dwell on it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 11, 2019 17:01:25 GMT -5
Last nights game was the samething we keep seeing. They go threw stretches of playing team ball and then just like that they don't. It was clear as day and even the announcers after halftime were like they weren't playing team ball, no ball movement, no attacking the rim, all jumpers. Everytime things aren't perfect they revert back to the style at the beginning of the year. It's like the default for certain players, clear as day. This wasn't well the offense was good yet size killed them. I'd almost buy the back to back if everyone didn't play less than 30 minutes against the Pacers. This wasn't back to back 35 plus minutes for guys, not even close.
You can forgive less engery, bad D, missing shots on back to backs. It happens. You can't forgive not playing team ball, passing, and driving to the basket. It's one thing to lose a game were the shots don't fall, yet you played good team Basketball and got good shots. Then there was last night.
I hope everyone is happy given this teams leadership! A loss is a loss, even when it looks like last night. Yet this environment of when things go bad of blaming the young guys has to stop! That is going to tear the team a part. Last night wasn't one guy, heck its never been just the young guys yet they seem to get all the blame!
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 11, 2019 18:29:56 GMT -5
RJ Hunter signed a 2 way contract with the Cs.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 11, 2019 18:33:04 GMT -5
You can forgive less engery, bad D, missing shots on back to backs. It happens. You can't forgive not playing team ball, passing, and driving to the basket. It's one thing to lose a game were the shots don't fall, yet you played good team Basketball and got good shots. Please don’t turn this isn’t a discussion about the Celtics; I’m commenting on your general point. Less energy absolutely can lead to bad team ball and especially not driving. When guys are tired they cut less, they drive less and they screen less and they settle for jumpers. Those are actually tell tale signs of a team being tired. Again please just a general comment |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 11, 2019 21:04:07 GMT -5
You can forgive less engery, bad D, missing shots on back to backs. It happens. You can't forgive not playing team ball, passing, and driving to the basket. It's one thing to lose a game were the shots don't fall, yet you played good team Basketball and got good shots. Please don’t turn this isn’t a discussion about the Celtics; I’m commenting on your general point. Less energy absolutely can lead to bad team ball and especially not driving. When guys are tired they cut less, they drive less and they screen less and they settle for jumpers. Those are actually tell tale signs of a team being tired. Again please just a general comment From the start of the game? With a team that is crazy young? Come on now. I'd buy your take if they started settling as the game went along and they got tired. That just wasn't the case. They got down early and team play went out the window. That great comeback from 26 down was all jumpers. I'll give Horford a pass due to age and not being 100%, same with Hayward still not at 100%. No one else though. The announcers showed a stat 5 FT attempts at halftime was the low for two teams all year. They had 3 combined at that point, not sure if they broke that though in the last minute plus. We aren't the only team playing back to backs and like I said no player even played 30 minutes against the Pacers. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 11, 2019 22:06:35 GMT -5
From the start of the game? With a team that is crazy young? Come on now. I'd buy your take if they started settling as the game went along and they got tired. That just wasn't the case. They got down early and team play went out the window. That great comeback from 26 down was all jumpers. I'll give Horford a pass due to age and not being 100%, same with Hayward still not at 100%. No one else though. The announcers showed a stat 5 FT attempts at halftime was the low for two teams all year. They had 3 combined at that point, not sure if they broke that though in the last minute plus. We aren't the only team playing back to backs and like I said no player even played 30 minutes against the Pacers. So... What is it? Should they stop blaming the young guys when things don't go right, or should we blame the young guys for not playing like young guys on the second night of a back to back? Rozier, Horford and Brown combined to go 3-21. Playing more team ball would have led to an ever bigger brick house. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 12, 2019 8:06:06 GMT -5
Please don’t turn this isn’t a discussion about the Celtics; I’m commenting on your general point. Less energy absolutely can lead to bad team ball and especially not driving. When guys are tired they cut less, they drive less and they screen less and they settle for jumpers. Those are actually tell tale signs of a team being tired. Again please just a general comment From the start of the game? With a team that is crazy young? Come on now. I'd buy your take if they started settling as the game went along and they got tired. That just wasn't the case. They got down early and team play went out the window. That great comeback from 26 down was all jumpers. I'll give Horford a pass due to age and not being 100%, same with Hayward still not at 100%. No one else though. The announcers showed a stat 5 FT attempts at halftime was the low for two teams all year. They had 3 combined at that point, not sure if they broke that though in the last minute plus. We aren't the only team playing back to backs and like I said no player even played 30 minutes against the Pacers. Apparently, you just ignore the entire point of a post. Went out of my way twice to tell you it was a general comment about your contention of those things not being signs of a tired team. Plain and simple they are. Whether that was the case in this past game is irrelevant; I don’t know - it may not have been or it could have been. You just indicated tired teams don’t settle for one on one or jumpers when they most certainly do. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 12, 2019 16:57:55 GMT -5
From the start of the game? With a team that is crazy young? Come on now. I'd buy your take if they started settling as the game went along and they got tired. That just wasn't the case. They got down early and team play went out the window. That great comeback from 26 down was all jumpers. I'll give Horford a pass due to age and not being 100%, same with Hayward still not at 100%. No one else though. The announcers showed a stat 5 FT attempts at halftime was the low for two teams all year. They had 3 combined at that point, not sure if they broke that though in the last minute plus. We aren't the only team playing back to backs and like I said no player even played 30 minutes against the Pacers. Apparently, you just ignore the entire point of a post. Went out of my way twice to tell you it was a general comment about your contention of those things not being signs of a tired team. Plain and simple they are. Whether that was the case in this past game is irrelevant; I don’t know - it may not have been or it could have been. You just indicated tired teams don’t settle for one on one or jumpers when they most certainly do. I'm not talking in general terms I'm talking about the Celtics last game. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 12, 2019 17:16:29 GMT -5
From the start of the game? With a team that is crazy young? Come on now. I'd buy your take if they started settling as the game went along and they got tired. That just wasn't the case. They got down early and team play went out the window. That great comeback from 26 down was all jumpers. I'll give Horford a pass due to age and not being 100%, same with Hayward still not at 100%. No one else though. The announcers showed a stat 5 FT attempts at halftime was the low for two teams all year. They had 3 combined at that point, not sure if they broke that though in the last minute plus. We aren't the only team playing back to backs and like I said no player even played 30 minutes against the Pacers. So... What is it? Should they stop blaming the young guys when things don't go right, or should we blame the young guys for not playing like young guys on the second night of a back to back? Rozier, Horford and Brown combined to go 3-21. Playing more team ball would have led to an ever bigger brick house. Wow, ok how can you talk about young guys and include our oldest Vet? That's my whole point about it not just being the young guys. Do you know why I preach team ball Don? It gets you easier shots. Good team basketball helps get guys going. Nevermind we've seen Rozier and Brown both shoot like this before then catch fire and vice versa. Happend all playoff long, they just played team ball then though. No matter what happened we never stopped playing team ball. If your a PG and a guy like Brown is struggling. You seem to support the don't give him the ball approach. I think its the PG duty to help get him going, get him an easy shot, layup, dunk, etc. I don't think its the PGs duty to just stop passing and try and take over scoring. Hence why I think Irving needs to be a full-time SG. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 12, 2019 18:08:19 GMT -5
Apparently, you just ignore the entire point of a post. Went out of my way twice to tell you it was a general comment about your contention of those things not being signs of a tired team. Plain and simple they are. Whether that was the case in this past game is irrelevant; I don’t know - it may not have been or it could have been. You just indicated tired teams don’t settle for one on one or jumpers when they most certainly do. I'm not talking in general terms I'm talking about the Celtics last game. 🤦🏻♂️ |
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