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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 20, 2019 13:11:13 GMT -5
I'm done debating this team till the playoffs. I just don't see the point. They are up and down from game to game, we'll see. What looks certain now is the Kings pick looks locked in at 14. So that trade and Danny's grand plan to get a higher pick kinda backfired. Went from pick 10 to pick 14. So it will be interesting to see if who we have a chance at, because that #10 pick gave us a chance at a few really good players. I count 7 or 8 guys 6'10" or better who fall in the range the C's pick in the 1st. Who knows what happens but they could answer the next big question. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 20, 2019 20:19:30 GMT -5
Just got home, can anyone elucidate me on how on earth Embiid has over 20 FTs in this game?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 20:37:28 GMT -5
Irving three big misses late - two layups. Giving away points.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 20:38:22 GMT -5
Just got home, can anyone elucidate me on how on earth Embiid has over 20 FTs in this game? Using a hack a Joel approach but he is nearly perfect shooting FTs tonight |
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Post by philarhody on Mar 20, 2019 20:38:29 GMT -5
Just got home, can anyone elucidate me on how on earth Embiid has over 20 FTs in this game? No Baynes and the refs have been kind to Philly. In other less surprising news, Kyrie’s defense in the closing minutes of this game is costing Boston the game |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 20:40:18 GMT -5
Like we've known all year....this is not a team with the mental make up for a deep playoff run. Defensive lapses, broken plays on offense, Irving just not making the plays late. And when they lost Smart, they lost a lot.
This team is just a bit soft...
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 20, 2019 20:42:25 GMT -5
Using a hack a Joel approach but he is nearly perfect shooting FTs tonight  No Baynes and the refs have been kind to Philly. In other less surprising news, Kyrie’s defense in the closing minutes of this game is costing Boston the game Morris too holy f*cking sh*t. This sh*t is not good for my health. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 20:44:20 GMT -5
This team reminds me of the last Farrell Sox team that was just unlikable to watch. Some significant changes will happen...and be needed.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 20, 2019 20:48:11 GMT -5
This team reminds me of the last Farrell Sox team that was just unlikable to watch. Some significant changes will happen...and be needed. Get Marcus Morris out of there. He can't defend anyone, he misses every single rotation, it's just ridiculous at this point. I'd rather play Semi and Stevens deserves a lot of blame for his inaction here. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 21:25:39 GMT -5
I am pretty much soured on the Irving band wagon - he scores, he dishes, but....he also goes solo, isn't proving to be particularly clutch, doesn't widely involve the others...sad to say (I loved Irving at Duke and he certainly is "interesting") - but he just doesn't make the team better, and doesn't seem to have any comfort with the leader role that people assume he should have.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 20, 2019 21:54:55 GMT -5
Baynes out 4-6 weeks with grade 2 ankle sprain - that's gonna hurt.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 20, 2019 22:05:36 GMT -5
Baynes out 4-6 weeks with grade 2 ankle sprain - that's gonna hurt. 0 depth at the big man position. Congratulations Danny for punting another season. |
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 20, 2019 23:47:03 GMT -5
Baynes out 4-6 weeks with grade 2 ankle sprain - that's gonna hurt. 0 depth at the big man position. Congratulations Danny for punting another season. Another big man wouldn’t have made a difference on this soft, stinky basketball team. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 21, 2019 11:46:20 GMT -5
Another big man wouldn’t have made a difference on this soft, stinky basketball team. I think it would have, have you watched Marcus Morris playing defense lately? Anyone who can take minutes from him would make a difference right now. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2019 15:51:01 GMT -5
Give them a chance to play Robert Williams something they should have been doing more of anyway.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 21, 2019 16:17:53 GMT -5
Theis will be gone after this season, so Williams will have his chances. I don’t think he’d be consistent enough this year to be a major difference maker, however.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 21, 2019 20:12:07 GMT -5
Not happy to watch the refs swallow their whistles when Embiid reaches out with his elbow knocking Marcus down when they have called fouls 3 to 1 for the Sixers. I get rather upset when the refs just plain old suck!
I know it is just me but it seems like the C's do not get the calls ever.
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Post by philarhody on Mar 21, 2019 21:54:04 GMT -5
This is NOT a hot take. I felt it for awhile. But Ja Morant is going to have a better pro career than Zion. Ja is the best point guard prospect since Chris Paul. Zion relies too much on his otherworldly athleticism. He reminds me of a short Blake Griffin, whom has shown us that generational athleticism doesn’t last long.
Can Zion handle the ball well? Can he shoot? Will he defend at an elite level? These questions would give me serious pause about taking him #1 over Ja
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 5:45:04 GMT -5
This is NOT a hot take. I felt it for awhile. But Ja Morant is going to have a better pro career than Zion. Ja is the best point guard prospect since Chris Paul. Zion relies too much on his otherworldly athleticism. He reminds me of a short Blake Griffin, whom has shown us that generational athleticism doesn’t last long. Can Zion handle the ball well? Can he shoot? Will he defend at an elite level? These questions would give me serious pause about taking him #1 over Ja Zion can’t handle well if you want to compare to a PG but yes for a big guy he has great handle. He will defend at an elite level as well. But no he can’t shoot. It’s why I said earlier i would take Barrett over him but Barrett’s shot has disappeared too; he at least has good mechanics. You could be right with Murray though I wouldn’t say that’s crazy. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 22, 2019 10:19:37 GMT -5
Theis will be gone after this season, so Williams will have his chances. I don’t think he’d be consistent enough this year to be a major difference maker, however. Who knows they have hardly played him. The guy can rebound and brings energy, while not needing the ball. In so many ways he's exactly what they need and now they have no choice, he has to play. Theis can't guard true centers. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 22, 2019 12:47:39 GMT -5
Who knows they have hardly played him. The guy can rebound and brings energy, while not needing the ball. In so many ways he's exactly what they need and now they have no choice, he has to play. Theis can't guard true centers. Williams is too raw, he's going to get punished on defense. On the other hand, he's incredibly talented for someone that plays so little. I honestly think they would have been a better team had they traded Marcus Morris for absolutely nothing and gave his minutes to a combo of Semi and Williams. Too late for that though. |
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Post by philarhody on Mar 22, 2019 13:06:49 GMT -5
This is NOT a hot take. I felt it for awhile. But Ja Morant is going to have a better pro career than Zion. Ja is the best point guard prospect since Chris Paul. Zion relies too much on his otherworldly athleticism. He reminds me of a short Blake Griffin, whom has shown us that generational athleticism doesn’t last long. Can Zion handle the ball well? Can he shoot? Will he defend at an elite level? These questions would give me serious pause about taking him #1 over Ja Zion can’t handle well if you want to compare to a PG but yes for a big guy he has great handle. He will defend at an elite level as well. But no he can’t shoot. It’s why I said earlier i would take Barrett over him but Barrett’s shot has disappeared too; he at least has good mechanics. You could be right with Murray though I wouldn’t say that’s crazy. I'm not so sure he has a great handle for a big. I haven't seen it because he hasn't been asked to handle the ball at Duke. The bigger problem for me is that Zion is really not a big man. In the short term, he's a perfectly suitable 4. But what's he going to do when his otherworldly athleticism diminishes ala Vince Carter, Lebron James, Blake Griffin, etc.? I don't see the skill set of a star player, although the athleticism for his size is perhaps the greatest I've ever seen. |
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 22, 2019 13:27:07 GMT -5
Zion can’t handle well if you want to compare to a PG but yes for a big guy he has great handle. He will defend at an elite level as well. But no he can’t shoot. It’s why I said earlier i would take Barrett over him but Barrett’s shot has disappeared too; he at least has good mechanics. You could be right with Murray though I wouldn’t say that’s crazy. I'm not so sure he has a great handle for a big. I haven't seen it because he hasn't been asked to handle the ball at Duke. The bigger problem for me is that Zion is really not a big man. In the short term, he's a perfectly suitable 4. But what's he going to do when his otherworldly athleticism diminishes ala Vince Carter, Lebron James, Blake Griffin, etc.? I don't see the skill set of a star player, although the athleticism for his size is perhaps the greatest I've ever seen. Zion has a 6'10.5" wing span. Add the 40 inch vertical leap and he might outrebound Charles Barkley. I still can't comprehend the physics behind a 6'6" 285 pound player being able to jump 40 inches high. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 22, 2019 14:03:45 GMT -5
All this talk about Zion is this and not that or it is just athleticism. Do you watch his games? He came back from injury and went 13 for 13, his fg% is almost 70% for the season. He blocks shots like it is a volleyball set spike, he blocks guys who are wide open from 3 pt range, he plays great D, cleans the glass, has a relentless motor. Have we ever seen an athlete this size do what he does? NO!! 285lbs and jamming from the FT line like Mike.
"ala Vince Carter, Lebron James, Blake Griffen" Vince Carter is still dunkning on guys and he is 42, take that Tom Brady. Lebron is somewhere between the best and the fifth best to ever play the game. Griffen, too many injuries.
By the way, basketball is all about athleticism. He will be a 20/10 guy from his rookie season until he is in his thirtys. You can take that to the bank. Or go ahead and take your chances with Morant or Barrett, no GM is going to make that call.
I could be wrong but I have watched a lot of basketball over the last 40+ years and he does some things I haven't seen. And he seems like a good kid that isn't going to blow it by being a dummy.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 14:24:47 GMT -5
All this talk about Zion is this and not that or it is just athleticism. Do you watch his games? He came back from injury and went 13 for 13, his fg% is almost 70% for the season. He blocks shots like it is a volleyball set spike, he blocks guys who are wide open from 3 pt range, he plays great D, cleans the glass, has a relentless motor. Have we ever seen an athlete this size do what he does? NO!! 285lbs and jamming from the FT line like Mike. "ala Vince Carter, Lebron James, Blake Griffen" Vince Carter is still dunkning on guys and he is 42, take that Tom Brady. Lebron is somewhere between the best and the fifth best to ever play the game. Griffen, too many injuries. By the way, basketball is all about athleticism. He will be a 20/10 guy from his rookie season until he is in his thirtys. You can take that to the bank. Or go ahead and take your chances with Morant or Barrett, no GM is going to make that call. I could be wrong but I have watched a lot of basketball over the last 40+ years and he does some things I haven't seen. And he seems like a good kid that isn't going to blow it by being a dummy. Not being able to shoot and being a poor FT shooter is a major drawback in today’s NBA. |
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