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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2019 18:44:19 GMT -5
Forget about Tre Jones in Boston next year it looks like he’s returning to Duke... love to see that. He needs to work on his shooting, if he adds a solid stroke from deep he’s going to improve his stock. It’d be u believable news for Duke too.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 7, 2019 21:00:28 GMT -5
Another game when they let it slip - hard to imagine them turning on the switch and becoming dominant in the playoffs when they can't do it within a game.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 7, 2019 21:46:25 GMT -5
22 to 14 FT attempts, you lost by eight points. They just get lazy shooting jumpers and last year's playoff team had Tatum, Brown, and Rozier attacking the rim like crazy. Sure Rozier and Brown had some poor attempts, it's just an attitude type thing, that shows lack of effort. Just like on D. While the whole team wasn't good, Irving having one attempt isn't setting a great example and why he can't be a guy that carries a team all the time. All the greats get tons of easy free throws. Easiest points a guy like Irving can get and gets the other team in foul trouble. Something that sees foreign to this team most nights.
At the same time this team is going to be a great test to the theory you can't flip a switch. So much of this just seems like effort and not caring about the regular season.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 7, 2019 21:49:59 GMT -5
Forget about Tre Jones in Boston next year it looks like he’s returning to Duke... love to see that. He needs to work on his shooting, if he adds a solid stroke from deep he’s going to improve his stock. It’d be u believable news for Duke too. Surprised he didn't wait till after NBA evaluations are done and get his draft grade. He could go either way, in that he could really increases his draft stock or cost himself big time. Great for Duke, I would have waited to see if I was projected as a first round pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2019 7:10:59 GMT -5
Forget about Tre Jones in Boston next year it looks like he’s returning to Duke... love to see that. He needs to work on his shooting, if he adds a solid stroke from deep he’s going to improve his stock. It’d be u believable news for Duke too. Surprised he didn't wait till after NBA evaluations are done and get his draft grade. He could go either way, in that he could really increases his draft stock or cost himself big time. Great for Duke, I would have waited to see if I was projected as a first round pick. He’s probably watched his brother not get a real chance despite being a first round pick and decided it’s best to stay in school and improve his game.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 8, 2019 8:09:38 GMT -5
Another game when they let it slip - hard to imagine them turning on the switch and becoming dominant in the playoffs when they can't do it within a game. To be fair Soxfan, the Celtics probably went into this game knowing that they could rest everyone and lose and still be the 4th seed. They were right about this at least. The Pacers lost last night. The 4th seed officially belongs to the Celtics. Theis had 3 out of the last 5 shot atempts in this game and all of them were from 3. I bet we never see that again this year lol.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 8, 2019 8:44:45 GMT -5
Another game when they let it slip - hard to imagine them turning on the switch and becoming dominant in the playoffs when they can't do it within a game. To be fair Soxfan, the Celtics probably went into this game knowing that they could rest everyone and lose and still be the 4th seed. They were right about this at least. The Pacers lost last night. The 4th seed officially belongs to the Celtics. Theis had 3 out of the last 5 shot atempts in this game and all of them were from 3. I bet we never see that again this year lol. Yes, quite likely - but after a season of this, I am kind of sensitized to this particular team deflating when it counts. Hoping the playoffs bring a vastly improved effort and approach. We will soon see!
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2019 9:03:22 GMT -5
Putting any stock into yesterday’s game is a waste of energy. The only things of significance are Tatum and Smart getting banged up... Just saying.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 8, 2019 10:15:36 GMT -5
Surprised he didn't wait till after NBA evaluations are done and get his draft grade. He could go either way, in that he could really increases his draft stock or cost himself big time. Great for Duke, I would have waited to see if I was projected as a first round pick. He’s probably watched his brother not get a real chance despite being a first round pick and decided it’s best to stay in school and improve his game. Isn't that a catch 22 though? Like his brother hasn't got a real chance because he's not an elite player. He looks like a good back up PG, that used a good season a Duke to become a first round pick. After that first year in College they go from looking at upside, to what your warts are if you don't really improve. Look at a guy like Rabb, went from lottery pick to second rounder in one year. Jones is a game manager, if Dukes talent goes down and he doesn't improve his shooting his stock could plummet. He fit lasts years team like a glove given the two elite scorers they had. Your a Duke fan, so you love it. Yet I really think he should have waited for that draft grade. Not a first round pick, go back to school. His Brother has millions and if he was smart is now set for life.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2019 12:04:55 GMT -5
He’s probably watched his brother not get a real chance despite being a first round pick and decided it’s best to stay in school and improve his game. Isn't that a catch 22 though? Like his brother hasn't got a real chance because he's not an elite player. He looks like a good back up PG, that used a good season a Duke to become a first round pick. After that first year in College they go from looking at upside, to what your warts are if you don't really improve. Look at a guy like Rabb, went from lottery pick to second rounder in one year. Jones is a game manager, if Dukes talent goes down and he doesn't improve his shooting his stock could plummet. He fit lasts years team like a glove given the two elite scorers they had. Your a Duke fan, so you love it. Yet I really think he should have waited for that draft grade. Not a first round pick, go back to school. His Brother has millions and if he was smart is now set for life. Yes and no, depends what your long term goal is. Do you have a better chance of developing your game in college playing big minutes and practicing or in the pros riding the bench and stuck between the G league and NBA? NBA teams barely practice that’s half the issue with player development. He’s not set to be a high pick so there’s not THAT much money on the line here... keep in mind basketball is way different than other sports in that there’s money to be made all around the world. If you don’t make it in the NBA you will make a significant living any any number of leagues. Not NBA money but it’s not as if your looking at selling insurance or playing in the NBA...
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 9, 2019 1:11:31 GMT -5
All depends on the player. A guy like Bolden was smart to stay in College. Athletic as heck, NBA size, but zero feel for the game. Jones is a smart guy that has a great feel for the game. You can learn shooting anywhere, it's just extra work.
For reference, Robert Williams got 4 years almost 10 million. 3.7 million guaranteed and most get that third year picked up which makes it almost 5.8 million. That is a lot of money even for a very late first round pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 9, 2019 19:59:54 GMT -5
They can’t even lose right... Washington winning helps increase the odds we don’t get that Memphis pick... if we get it I want it to be because Sacramento goes to 2 or 3 not because we beat the Wizards in a meaningless game
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 9, 2019 20:43:12 GMT -5
RJ Hunter with a +28 tonight, what a time to be alive.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 10, 2019 9:56:47 GMT -5
I saw the starting lineup last night and immediately turned the game off.
What does everyone think about Magic and why he quit? Are no big free agents willing to join LeBron and he's skipping out early before the looming disaster shows up? Or did he actually get fired? Or did LeBron force him out?
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Post by texs31 on Apr 10, 2019 10:43:01 GMT -5
Are he and Bill Walton close? Was wondering if he didn't want to be a part of firing Luke? Total guess.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2019 11:19:11 GMT -5
I saw the starting lineup last night and immediately turned the game off. What does everyone think about Magic and why he quit? Are no big free agents willing to join LeBron and he's skipping out early before the looming disaster shows up? Or did he actually get fired? Or did LeBron force him out? Magic quit because being in charge of a basketball team is hard time consuming work. I’m not saying Magic won’t work hard; I’m just saying he clearly doesn’t want it to be his entire focus. You can’t be effective running a basketball team treating it like a hobby, a second job or one of many jobs. He also doesn’t want to give people bad news which you have to do all the time. It’s just a terrible fit for who he is and what he wants to do. He basically said as much in the press conference. He sounded like a guy who had no idea what the job was.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 10, 2019 12:27:43 GMT -5
I certainly buy the he wanted more free time. Yet I think Magic wants people to love him and can't take when they don't. He went from God like status to the mess that is the Lakers in no time flat. He has the Clippers laughing at him in the media about trading a player like Zubac to them for nothing. He did things like dump Randle for Rondo, even though they had Ball. He didn't listen to the coaching staff that wanted Randle and Lopez back. He basically seems to have no clue how to build teams and just did what LeBron wanted which is about the worst thing you can do!
He was at a crossroads. Trade all the young talent and build around LeBron or take another path. It would cement his legacy one way or another as President of the team. He needed to make decisions on Walton, who he wants gone and Buss wants to keep. So he walks away at a time when his legacy is basically unchanged. He got LeBron, which was a big win and he'll leave the rest to someone else. Not surprising at all frankly. Danny Ainge uses his position to cement his legacy and chase the HOF, same with coaches like Steve Kerr. It's why big time star players normally don't make great coaches and GMs. They have better things to do and don't have the fire to be the best, they have already proven they were.
The funny thing is Bam just like that everything could have changed with Davis, as both people in charge of making that trade happen are now gone. The Lakers loss Magic who is likely the reason LeBron is there, yet likely get a guy who is better at building a true team.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 10, 2019 12:47:05 GMT -5
How do ties work for the NBA draft? Is it a coin flip like in the NFL?
Grizz are one game back of Pelicans and Mavs. Mavs play Spurs who are fighting with Clippers for the right not to play the Warriors. So I will guess the Mavs won't win, Grizz play Warriors who have nothing to play for. Who knows if they can even beat the Warriors bench players, but if they did you'd have a three way tie for that 7th to 9th spot in the draft.
Also the Kings, Hornets, and Heat are all tied up. So if we're lucky we can get pick #12, instead of 14.
Also the Clippers have gone cold taking that pick from 22 to 18. So let's hope they don't win and it stays there.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 10, 2019 12:59:39 GMT -5
You're never going to build a true team with LeBron. You're going to build LeBron's team. I hope he winds up disgraced in the end because he's such a douche.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 10, 2019 13:19:34 GMT -5
How do ties work for the NBA draft? Is it a coin flip like in the NFL? Grizz are one game back of Pelicans and Mavs. Mavs play Spurs who are fighting with Clippers for the right not to play the Warriors. So I will guess the Mavs won't win, Grizz play Warriors who have nothing to play for. Who knows if they can even beat the Warriors bench players, but if they did you'd have a three way tie for that 7th to 9th spot in the draft. Also the Kings, Hornets, and Heat are all tied up. So if we're lucky we can get pick #12, instead of 14. Also the Clippers have gone cold taking that pick from 22 to 18. So let's hope they don't win and it stays there. www.dangerc.art/blog/celtics-final-day-draft-scenariosRyan Breaks it all down
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2019 18:05:08 GMT -5
Smart has a torn oblique - out for first 2 rounds. So he will miss the playoffs this year
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 10, 2019 19:56:57 GMT -5
Smart has a torn oblique - out for first 2 rounds. So he will miss the playoffs this year Wanamaker to the rescue.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 10, 2019 21:32:49 GMT -5
Smart has a torn oblique - out for first 2 rounds. So he will miss the playoffs this year Ouch, he had a really nice season as well. On the other hand, this kind of solves a bit the problem of having way too many guys who need shots. In an ideal world, Stevens would give Morris absolutely 0 minutes, but that was never going to happen. This injury on the other hand could force him to play Hayward and Brown more minutes, which should happen. If Morris is playing more minutes than either Hayward or Brown I'm going to lose my patience.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 10, 2019 21:41:42 GMT -5
This could be a good thing if it means Brown starts, making Irving, Brown, and Rozier the guards. Smart was injured to start last year's playoffs.
Grizz win, Mavs lost, three way tie. A coin flip will determine if we get the pick not accounting for the lottery. Most don't agree but I want that pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 11, 2019 7:43:11 GMT -5
This could be a good thing if it means Brown starts, making Irving, Brown, and Rozier the guards. Smart was injured to start last year's playoffs. Grizz win, Mavs lost, three way tie. A coin flip will determine if we get the pick not accounting for the lottery. Most don't agree but I want that pick. It’s only maybe a good thing because the trust in Brad Stevens to play the right rotations is low. You said it yourself, you want them to focus on defense and we just lost our best defensive player.
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