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2019 Patriots Offseason Thread
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 23, 2019 23:45:59 GMT -5
I've got a different take on Kraft: there's NO reason he should've been frequenting such a mid-tier/public place for these type of services. Money is literally no object for him, he could've had these services discreetly in a more convenient location with less visibility/risk. The question is, why would he go to this specific location, and was he frequenting other similar establishments? My speculation: he gets off on the risk associated with the situation. It fits the profile of a billionaire who gets everything he wants. Personally, his relationship with Ricki Noel Lander already made me cringe. If you want to believe a conspiracy theory, it's more likely that he has money on this scheme and then figured like what the hell man. |
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Post by marrcus on Feb 24, 2019 1:54:06 GMT -5
My guess is he likes Chinese for several reasons one being that they prob' have no idea who he is or can talk about it to anyone (in English).
Now if he goes to other establishments that theory isn't operative. Kraft always appeared to be a very needy celeb --in more ways than one-- and his constant embracing people (and the kissing) was kind of creepy.
As for liking the "risk?" I doubt he even thinks of it that way he's probably so out of touch, with that kind of wealth behind him. I never really liked him or the family and all I care about is the management of the Pats and not his personal life. No draft pick loses-NFL!
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2019 7:55:47 GMT -5
Slow news day - don’t care about the rub and tug so here goes a patriots Mock draft. They won’t use all these picks, but I’m not working trades... they will likely trade up at some point in round 1 or 2 and down at some point in red 3 or 4 to get a 5th... the gap from 134 to 205 is bigger than they like at that spot but who knows with them? 1-32: Dexter Lawrence DT Clemson 2-56: Deebo Samuel WR South Carolina 2-64 Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware 3-73 Oshane Ximines, DE, Old Dominion 3-97 Trey Pipkins OT Sioux Falls 3-101 Kaden Smith TE Sanford 4-124 Hunter Renfroe WR Clemson 4-134 Terry Beckner Jr., DT, Missouri 6-205 Daniel Wise DT Kansas 7-237 James Williams RB Washington St 7-243 Tommy Sweeney TE Boston College 7-246 L J Collier DE TCU 7-252 Matt Gay K Utah My god, this Kraft story is getting in the way of draft and offseason coverage. Evan must have read my mock draft. Dexter Lawrence is pretty much perfect for the Patriots. Bill loves the 330+ pound guys who can move. His mocks are all over the place, from top 15 to second round. Resign Flowers and add Lawrence to the middle our D line would theoretically be much improved. Click on and read the thread not just this tweet. Some decent stuff even tho Evan is hardly a scout |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2019 9:18:18 GMT -5
Btw to correct something earlier, Gostkowski franchise number would be closer to 6m than 5 like someone said and I incorrectly corrected. The kicker number is close to 5 but Gostkowski‘ is higher because players get the higher of the average and 120% of current salary.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 24, 2019 9:36:02 GMT -5
Yea I don't buy that for a second. It's not like prostitution is made up of mostly sex slaves. I think it fairly save to assume that never once crossed Krafts mind. Heck if not for this case being about that, no one would be bringing it up. Never heard a single person say Tiger was helping support the sex trade industry. It's like saying ever women that goes to the Nails places with all those Chinese women who can't speak english supports or willfully ignores they could be human trafficking victims. People just aren't wired to think the worse like that. You'd have a crappy life if you looked at everything in the worst possible way. That’s exactly what I mean by willful ignorance. I have little doubt that Kraft must’ve discussed this place with buddies. Hell, Trump has a home nearby. I doubt he only went once. Frequent a place like that, and almost assuredly talk about it with friends, and the nature of the business is bound to come up. Surrounded there by Chinese women who don’t speak English, at some level there’s got to be a personal internal monologue about it. Who are they? Are they here legally? Do they even want to be here? Unless one is irrevocably obtuse, I’m sure they’d entertain those questions, and notice that these women aren’t doing what they’re doing of their own free will. Human beings do a lot of nonverbal communication...enslaved women are guaranteed to project submissively (which is probably part of the draw for these guys), and they’re probably also displaying signs of verbal, emotional, and even physical abuse. Not “seeing” that, no matter what you say, simply isn’t a reality. Humans are *hard-wired* to pickup on those cues. It’s simply a fact. So “missing” those cues, unless a person has a pervasive developmental disorder on the autism spectrum, is a choice. Ignoring the situation is a choice. And continuing to frequent the establishment, in spite of it all, is a choice. People make choices every day to do things they know will hurt others, and the calculus in their mind says that in order to get what they want, it’s worth it. And we all do it, and go through some degree of mental gymnastics to rationalize it and still feel like we’re good people. That’s willful ignorance. And in this case, *at best* Kraft can claim that willful ignorance, but he’s still going to pay the price for his actions. And plenty of people will rally behind him, just like you are, and rationalize it away, minimize it, etc. No person can be defined as “good” or “bad” by a single instance...we’re all the sum of what we put out in the world. Kraft’s done a lot of good, philanthropically. But the idea that this is a non-issue is exactly what human traffickers depend on to stay in business in the first place. The facts don't back that up though Telson. For example only 8,500 sex trafficking cases in the US in 2017 in a Country of 325 million people. A large city like Houston had two all year for example. The idea that a john is going to rational assume or should that getting a rub and tug is by sex slaves is kinda crazy when millions of guys are doing it and there are do few cases of it. Two things going on here the media or I should say activists are blowing it out of proportion or it's a lot bigger problem than almost anyone thinks. If it's the latter, which I'm highly skeptical of, then the Police need to make a lot more arrests which will change the public views. Until that happens you can't blame people that they should be thinking that way. Simple fix make it legal. I see zero reason it shouldn't be legal between two adults who consent to it. It being Illegal, where it happens behind the scenes and no one talks about allows this crap to happen. Nevermind making it legal makes it a whole lot safer for everyone. So you think these women were signaling men that they needed help and everyone was just turning a blind eye? That is a massive assumption that frankly seems to be deliberately trying to slam Kraft. We have no clue what happened! Yet I find it crazy hard to believe Kraft in his mind thought something was wrong and kept going back to that place. You want to make the point people should be thinking that way, ok that could make sense. Not that people are and just willfully not caring. I just don't buy that. These places wouldn't be so successful if it was obvious what was going on. I live in Berkshire County, basically the backwoods of Massachusetts and we have a bunch of places with Chinese people that can't speak english and almost all of them aren't slaves. Zero cases in my area for my lifetime. I better stop getting Chinese food because before you know it people like you are going to be saying I'm supporting human trafficking and I should know better. There are no red flags because a bunch of Chinese women that can't speak english is a normal thing in this Country. All Chinese businesses have them. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 24, 2019 9:56:09 GMT -5
Btw to correct something earlier, Gostkowski franchise number would be closer to 6m than 5 like someone said and I incorrectly corrected. The kicker number is close to 5 but Gostkowski‘ is higher because players get the higher of the average and 120% of current salary. I'd rather pay Flowers than pay a kicker that type of money. Still say this seems like a great year to draft a kicker a bunch have draftable grades and that doesn't happen every year. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 24, 2019 10:16:00 GMT -5
That relies on the order of operation being:
1. Do we want to use the tag
2. Who do we use it on
It's just as likely (I would GUESS more so, but I wont try and pass that as fact) that its:
1. Do we want to use the tag on Flowers? If no . . .
2. Do we want to use it on Ghost(or, technically, another player could be next).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 24, 2019 10:40:29 GMT -5
I'm working on a Flower deal right now. If your not close tag him and trade him. Given the need for passrushers he'd have good value at like 16 million. Hecks he's going to get like 12 million I'd assume, so 16 million isn't a crazy number to keep him for one year either.
You can't easily replace guys like Flowers, you need to do everything you can to keep him. Given the lack of weapons on offense, along with Bradys age we need a strong D going forward
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2019 11:14:32 GMT -5
I'm working on a Flower deal right now. If your not close tag him and trade him. Given the need for passrushers he'd have good value at like 16 million. Hecks he's going to get like 12 million I'd assume, so 16 million isn't a crazy number to keep him for one year either. You can't easily replace guys like Flowers, you need to do everything you can to keep him. Given the lack of weapons on offense, along with Bradys age we need a strong D going forward I agree with the strategy but I don’t think it’s what Bill will do. He has too much respect for Flowers to tag and trade him. Ultimately, that may be what gets Flowers to return at a slightly below market deal. I see this as similar to the Hightower free agency... not that Hightower got a below market deal. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Feb 24, 2019 15:54:32 GMT -5
I’m not sure I understand the cap situation, help me out here (I’m not being sarcastic.)
If we cut Allen and extend Brady, we have like 27-28 million or so give and take. Given that our DL and WR corps need to be totally redone, how would that allow for someone like Flowers? Especially given the Patriot preference to invest in a strong middle class?
I’d bet Flowers is gone and I’m not even sure Ghost at 6 million makes sense either.
Now extending Ghost for a few years, that makes more sense to me. You also have to remember the Pats like going into the season with a little cap room and some of the room will need to be allocated to the draft class and other free agents.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2019 17:39:41 GMT -5
I’m not sure I understand the cap situation, help me out here (I’m not being sarcastic.) If we cut Allen and extend Brady, we have like 27-28 million or so give and take. Given that our DL and WR corps need to be totally redone, how would that allow for someone like Flowers? Especially given the Patriot preference to invest in a strong middle class? I’d bet Flowers is gone and I’m not even sure Ghost at 6 million makes sense either. Now extending Ghost for a few years, that makes more sense to me. You also have to remember the Pats like going into the season with a little cap room and some of the room will need to be allocated to the draft class and other free agents. A couple reasons, bear with me because I haven’t looked into reasonable structure for Flowers, but keep in mind he’s young so you can guarantee a lot of the money. First reason is there’s other way to open salary with extensions and restructures but the bigger reason is you can make Flowers salary cap number lower in the first year. So something like this: 5 years 75 million (15m AAV) with 50m signing bonus: Year 1 salary: 1m Year 2 salary: 5m Year 3 salary: 6m Year 4 salary: 6m Year 5 salary: 7m Bonus gets broken up for the cap at 10m per year so your cap hits are: 11m 15m 16m 16m 17m So this season you’re “only” at 11m leaving more room. If you do a lower bonus and higher later salaries then you get even lower hits today and less dead money to cut later. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 25, 2019 0:34:03 GMT -5
I'm working on a Flower deal right now. If your not close tag him and trade him. Given the need for passrushers he'd have good value at like 16 million. Hecks he's going to get like 12 million I'd assume, so 16 million isn't a crazy number to keep him for one year either. You can't easily replace guys like Flowers, you need to do everything you can to keep him. Given the lack of weapons on offense, along with Bradys age we need a strong D going forward I agree with the strategy but I don’t think it’s what Bill will do. He has too much respect for Flowers to tag and trade him. Ultimately, that may be what gets Flowers to return at a slightly below market deal. I see this as similar to the Hightower free agency... not that Hightower got a below market deal. All depends what he's willing to pay him right? Like if you'll go 15 million per why wouldn't you tag him? You don't tag him because you feel that is way too high and your at like 12 million. Like you can normally replace anyone, but you can't replace him easily and given our other needs it would really help to not have to try. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 25, 2019 8:17:55 GMT -5
I agree with the strategy but I don’t think it’s what Bill will do. He has too much respect for Flowers to tag and trade him. Ultimately, that may be what gets Flowers to return at a slightly below market deal. I see this as similar to the Hightower free agency... not that Hightower got a below market deal. All depends what he's willing to pay him right? Like if you'll go 15 million per why wouldn't you tag him? You don't tag him because you feel that is way too high and your at like 12 million. Like you can normally replace anyone, but you can't replace him easily and given our other needs it would really help to not have to try. Yea but even if they will go 15m per AAV there’s no way they are willing to go 15m this year in the cap and the franchise tag is even more than that. I agree he’s valuable - really valuable, but if they absorb that kind of a cap hit this year it’s going to really hurt them elsewhere. That’s almost all their cap space before restructures/cuts. They very rarely, if ever, lose a top young defender for nothing, so I’d suspect they get something done but the tag is likely close to 150% of what they want his cap charge to be this year and that’s the important figure not his AAV. The other thing to keep in mind is, Flowers has a lot of media helium, but his contract is going to break the mold, they question is by how much. No defensive lineman has ever gotten a contract over like 11m AAV (forget exact figure but it’s around that) without having a double digit sack season. Flowers max is 7.5. Is a team really going to go from never paying a guy like him 11m per to 17-20m? Honestly, it’s possible, but the opposite is true too that no one will go to $15m per. It’s a huge risk for a team to think he’s not a scheme player and pay him that much of their cap. You need a game wrecker to make that kind of money not simply a rock solid all around guy. So we will see. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 25, 2019 8:18:04 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Feb 25, 2019 8:33:58 GMT -5
Thanks! Great article, could have slipped through the cracks. |
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 25, 2019 10:57:01 GMT -5
Wow, that does not sound fun. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 25, 2019 12:29:36 GMT -5
All depends what he's willing to pay him right? Like if you'll go 15 million per why wouldn't you tag him? You don't tag him because you feel that is way too high and your at like 12 million. Like you can normally replace anyone, but you can't replace him easily and given our other needs it would really help to not have to try. Yea but even if they will go 15m per AAV there’s no way they are willing to go 15m this year in the cap and the franchise tag is even more than that. I agree he’s valuable - really valuable, but if they absorb that kind of a cap hit this year it’s going to really hurt them elsewhere. That’s almost all their cap space before restructures/cuts. They very rarely, if ever, lose a top young defender for nothing, so I’d suspect they get something done but the tag is likely close to 150% of what they want his cap charge to be this year and that’s the important figure not his AAV. The other thing to keep in mind is, Flowers has a lot of media helium, but his contract is going to break the mold, they question is by how much. No defensive lineman has ever gotten a contract over like 11m AAV (forget exact figure but it’s around that) without having a double digit sack season. Flowers max is 7.5. Is a team really going to go from never paying a guy like him 11m per to 17-20m? Honestly, it’s possible, but the opposite is true too that no one will go to $15m per. It’s a huge risk for a team to think he’s not a scheme player and pay him that much of their cap. You need a game wrecker to make that kind of money not simply a rock solid all around guy. So we will see. Well that's the million dollar question right? Does it help you to tag him or does it hurt you? Also what do they value him as? I hope your right in that it's like Hightower. Teams just go crazy with DEs. The difference is what paying our kicker versus getting a rookie kicker? Heck I'd cut McCourty if it meant keeping Flowers. Yea I 100% get that, his value to the Patriots is likely higher than any other team. Few teams will use him like we do. At the same time experts expect every DE above him to get tagged. He's been the best defensive lineman on a team that went to 3 straight Superbowls and he was huge against the Falcons and Rams. It's the perfect storm, he's going to blow away that record, the only question is by how much? On another topic dug into Dexter Lawrence he's a huge dude at 340 pounds now. As his weight has increased his sacks have decreased. Any worries he's Danny Shelton? A guy I think they could bring back on the cheap. I only ask because most guys that big aren't sub-package guys and we run that a ton in todays NFL. He's like a Wilfork, yet we don't run much 3-4 anymore. Just something to think about because the Patriots have preferred smaller DT lately. The value if he's there might be too good, yet he doesn't seem like a perfect fit. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 25, 2019 17:12:18 GMT -5
Yea but even if they will go 15m per AAV there’s no way they are willing to go 15m this year in the cap and the franchise tag is even more than that. I agree he’s valuable - really valuable, but if they absorb that kind of a cap hit this year it’s going to really hurt them elsewhere. That’s almost all their cap space before restructures/cuts. They very rarely, if ever, lose a top young defender for nothing, so I’d suspect they get something done but the tag is likely close to 150% of what they want his cap charge to be this year and that’s the important figure not his AAV. The other thing to keep in mind is, Flowers has a lot of media helium, but his contract is going to break the mold, they question is by how much. No defensive lineman has ever gotten a contract over like 11m AAV (forget exact figure but it’s around that) without having a double digit sack season. Flowers max is 7.5. Is a team really going to go from never paying a guy like him 11m per to 17-20m? Honestly, it’s possible, but the opposite is true too that no one will go to $15m per. It’s a huge risk for a team to think he’s not a scheme player and pay him that much of their cap. You need a game wrecker to make that kind of money not simply a rock solid all around guy. So we will see. Well that's the million dollar question right? Does it help you to tag him or does it hurt you? Also what do they value him as? I hope your right in that it's like Hightower. Teams just go crazy with DEs. The difference is what paying our kicker versus getting a rookie kicker? Heck I'd cut McCourty if it meant keeping Flowers. Yea I 100% get that, his value to the Patriots is likely higher than any other team. Few teams will use him like we do. At the same time experts expect every DE above him to get tagged. He's been the best defensive lineman on a team that went to 3 straight Superbowls and he was huge against the Falcons and Rams. It's the perfect storm, he's going to blow away that record, the only question is by how much? On another topic dug into Dexter Lawrence he's a huge dude at 340 pounds now. As his weight has increased his sacks have decreased. Any worries he's Danny Shelton? A guy I think they could bring back on the cheap. I only ask because most guys that big aren't sub-package guys and we run that a ton in todays NFL. He's like a Wilfork, yet we don't run much 3-4 anymore. Just something to think about because the Patriots have preferred smaller DT lately. The value if he's there might be too good, yet he doesn't seem like a perfect fit. I think he fits them pretty good, he’s not simply a nose tackle. Plus Bill loves big guys who are athletic. He just waxed poetic about them a couple months ago: Q: They have a guy in Mike Pennel who doesn’t play a ton of snaps for them on the defensive line but is listed at 330 pounds. Is that body type kind of fading away at that position? BB: Well, first of all Phil [Perry], let’s start with how many 330 guys are there out there? Now if you’re looking for 190-pound receivers, I mean, there’s eight bazillion of them. How many 330-pound guys are there? There’s just not that many of them. So, they’re always hard to find. Those guys are always hard to find. I don’t care if they’re tackles, offensive tackles, defensive tackles. For every guy that’s 330, there’s 20 that are 290. So, if you can find the 330 guys, or whatever the number is, that are as athletic and have the skill of guys that weigh 40 pounds less that play the same position, generally speaking, those guys are probably going to outperform the guys that are lesser. Now if there’s some balance then that’s a different story. And again, there’s only so many 330 pound guys out there, or 370 pound guys, however big Trent Brown is or Marcus Cannon. There’s not an unlimited supply of those guys, so if they have that kind of size and are athletic and have the skills then chances are they’re going to be playing for somebody. I don’t know – if they don’t have the skills then they pump gas. There’s something else. But guys that are big and athletic, there’s a sport and a position for most of those guys. It’s the little ones, like me, that were slow and make up for it with lack of quickness that have trouble. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 25, 2019 19:16:33 GMT -5
Yea that isn't what I asked though. I know Bill likes them we've seen Washington, Wilfork, Valentine, Shelton etc. Yet it was glaring how things have changed with Shelton he wasn't playing much. Bill might love those big guys, but you don't take a DT in the first round to play the amount of snaps Danny Shelton did, you want a three down DT. Remember Shelton had a 9 sack season in College, but the NFL is different.
The guy Bill is talking about was undrafted and got released. Kinda shows how the values are falling. It's a passing league first now, not a running league.
Gotta ask why is he so low? Seen mocks with him in the second round. Also he missed that Notre Dame and Bama game and that team didn't miss him at all. Heck they might have done better without him.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 25, 2019 22:17:29 GMT -5
If you're still talking about Lawrence, he's an obvious 3 down NT that can stop the run and provide pass rush. They'd be lucky if he drops to 32. How many guys that are 350 have 18% body fat. He's just a ridiculous freak of nature. Seems like a great person and very smart as well.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 26, 2019 8:12:06 GMT -5
Yea that isn't what I asked though. I know Bill likes them we've seen Washington, Wilfork, Valentine, Shelton etc. Yet it was glaring how things have changed with Shelton he wasn't playing much. Bill might love those big guys, but you don't take a DT in the first round to play the amount of snaps Danny Shelton did, you want a three down DT. Remember Shelton had a 9 sack season in College, but the NFL is different. The guy Bill is talking about was undrafted and got released. Kinda shows how the values are falling. It's a passing league first now, not a running league. Gotta ask why is he so low? Seen mocks with him in the second round. Also he missed that Notre Dame and Bama game and that team didn't miss him at all. Heck they might have done better without him. Yea, I don’t think he’s simply a Danny Shelton guy, but sure if they view him as one then he won’t get drafted in the first round. Bill wasn’t talking about that player specifically, he was talking about the size, he never even mentioned the player he just used the question to go off on one of his little detail love fests. Shelton doesn’t have the quickness that Lawrence has. Lawrence is huge but quick. He has scheme versatility in that he can play in 3 and 4 man fronts and multiple techniques. He’s far from a perfect prospect but we are talking about the end of the first round, no one will be perfect. You asked why’s he so low, but that’s not the right question. It’s why is he all over the place in mocks? Several reasons. You see him high because of his freak size and athleticism. You see him lower because he’s got some flaws in his game and because of his size. Teams have gone smaller and many don’t want big guys like him even if they are athletic. There’s a lot of defensive line depth this year so good players will be available in the second round and predicting who’s getting picked by which team is a fools errand. Plus, they are mock drafts early on pre-combine - other than the top guys a lot of players are all over the place. It’s why you can see Brian Burns top 10 in one mock and second round in another. Here are potential first round DL/edge guys (they won’t all get picked): Nick Bosa Josh Allen Montez Sweat Jachai Polite Zach Allen Roshan Gary Clelin Ferrell Brian Burns Jaylon Ferguson Quinnen Williams Ed Oliver Christian Wilkins Dre'Mont Jones Jeffery Simmons Dexter Lawrence Jerry Tillery That’s 16 guys that could be first round picks, which means a bunch won’t be. The fact there’s so many may actually push more out of the first as teams will see value at the spot in the second. So no we don’t know Lawrence is going to be a great pro; same as any of these other guys that would be available, but his profile seems to fit Bill. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 26, 2019 13:07:16 GMT -5
www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000938136/article/scouting-dexter-lawrence-raw-clemson-dt-has-big-potentialThat's a before the season scouting report. It reads just like Danny Shelton in so many ways. Says his pass rushing skills aren't there but he likes the upside, but wants him to lose weight. He didn't improve this year as a pass rusher, if anything he got worse. Shelton had those same comments of being able to push the pocket. Something that isn't easy in the NFL no matter how big you are. You need to be like Vince and have quickness, then again he mainly played in a 3-4 that had large gaps to helped him do that. We'll see how the combine goes. Very interested in what he'll weigh, as I've seen reports he was at 350 pounds this year. Which would help explain his declining sack totals, he's losing quickness as he bulks up. I'm a big stat guy, so when a players sacks go down for 3 straight years I take notice. Compared to a guy like Tillery who just keeps getting better and frankly is that pass rushing type DT that I want. Every year there is a group of potential first rounders. Yet guys like Wilfork was seen as a top 10 talent before he fell in the draft. Burns is a 6'5" DE that weighs 230 pounds, only gaining 10 pounds in 3 years at College. He's not coming close to the top 10 unless he lights the combine on fire. Even then top 10 kinda seems unlikely. You can't be a fulltime DE at that weight, even a 3-4 OLB needs to be like 250 normally. He's got the body of a pass rushing specialist only right now. Just my two cents but if Lawrence drops to pick 32 it's going to be a red flag.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 26, 2019 13:45:17 GMT -5
Just my two cents but if Lawrence drops to pick 32 it's going to be a red flag. So anyone dropping to 32 is a red flag then.... i don’t get the difference. |
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 26, 2019 13:51:16 GMT -5
Just my two cents but if Lawrence drops to pick 32 it's going to be a red flag. So anyone dropping to 32 is a red flag then.... i don’t get the difference. I almost quoted the same sentence. Pats should draft the best player at 32 regardless of whether he dropped there or rose there. What does a red flag even mean anyway? That the guy is undraftable at any point? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 26, 2019 15:15:31 GMT -5
As RJP pointed out those huge guys are rare. If he's a monster DT that can play all three downs coming from Clemson and goes number 32 that is rather telling. He's by far the biggest DT among the top 10 DTs. He outweighs the next closest guy by 38 pounds per Walter football, who site team sources that he played at 350 last year. If he can play all three downs he's a physical freak. So yea I'd be worried. Nevermind the failed drug test.
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