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Post by costpet on Feb 20, 2019 12:21:02 GMT -5
I wonder how he ranks compared to the other kickers. The Rams kicker missed 2 in the biggest game of his life.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 20, 2019 13:30:00 GMT -5
Also, the tag is sometimes just a mechanism (to ensure the player returns). Just bc they use it on him, doesn't mean that's the number he plays at.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 20, 2019 15:05:41 GMT -5
Also, the tag is sometimes just a mechanism (to ensure the player returns). Just bc they use it on him, doesn't mean that's the number he plays at. Yea but you have to be willing to pay him close to the tag or be willing to carry him on the tag or it’s of no use to you. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 20, 2019 19:30:07 GMT -5
Noah Fant
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Post by philarhody on Feb 20, 2019 21:50:13 GMT -5
TJ Hockenson> Irv Smith > Noah Fant
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 21, 2019 7:33:26 GMT -5
Hockenson will be gone, all 3 could be gone.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 21, 2019 9:18:47 GMT -5
Hockenson will be gone, all 3 could be gone. But any of the 3 could also Be available. It’s hard to tell before the combine and you never know how the board will fall. All it takes is the right player to be there for one of the few teams that’d actually use a first on a TE for them to fall. Teams draft for fit and need in the NFL not just best player available so guys like this at these types of positions can fall unexpectedly pretty far. A team like Oakland holding 3 picks makes that less likely tho, but we don’t know which TE they’d prefer for their system. I’d love to end up with Wilkins, Ferrel it Lawrence... any of those 3 Clemson guys would be a nice get. All 3 could be gone early or one could fall. Most likely Lawrence or Wilkins. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 21, 2019 9:58:45 GMT -5
Ferrel isn't falling unless red flags pop up, like big ones. You might get a shot at one of those DT because the class is soo good. Shouldn't the debate be if X falls past say pick #20 do we move up? Like most drafts the chance a guy we want falling is rather slim, not to pick #32. Maybe an injured guy like Simmons.
Have two TE's from the same team ever gone in the first round? Like we heard about Fant all year then bam Kiper has Hockenson going top 10.
Do the Patriots target more receiving type TEs like Irv Smith and Fant? Like too bad Hockenson has flown up draft boards because he's the best blocker. He seems like a guy they draft in the first round.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 21, 2019 13:24:49 GMT -5
Ferrel isn't falling unless red flags pop up, like big ones. You might get a shot at one of those DT because the class is soo good. Shouldn't the debate be if X falls past say pick #20 do we move up? Like most drafts the chance a guy we want falling is rather slim, not to pick #32. When I talk about falling I just mean to within the realm of them being able to get the player. If that’s moving up so be it. They’ve moved up in the past to get the player they want in rd 1 and it usually works. I agree Ferrel is least likely and a long shot that’s why I said most likely the other 2. I have seen Farrell mostly mocked top 10ish but in a couple he’s been in low 20s which is a range you can trade into. My guess is they don’t draft a tight end in Rd 1 who is simply a receiving tight end. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 21, 2019 13:27:22 GMT -5
Simmons won’t even be on the Patriots draft board. There’s video of him punching a woman.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 9:44:25 GMT -5
McCourty is playing next season
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 22, 2019 10:06:49 GMT -5
slapthesign.com/2019/01/23/nfl-alize-mack/walterfootball.com/draft2019TE.phpI'm not the only one that likes the fit. One of the reasons I think the TE class is so deep is a guy like Mack. He's had issues, a good amount of them, yet nothing serious. He's certainly not a normal Patriot type player. Yet as Walter Football shows he might be the fastest and best athlete at TE in the draft. You've certainly seen him make crazy impressive plays for Notre Dame. Yet Notre Dame just doesn't use TEs much in its offense much. Which is kinda mind blowing because they have like four of them that will play in the NFL. He's not a great blocker, but has the ability to be at minimum a good one. Notre Dame has so many good TEs they never even used him as one. A guy to watch because I think he blows up the combine. Just look at that list rounds 2-4 are going to have a bunch of options. It's just a lot of them are like Mack more of a pass catching TE, than a complete TE like Gronk. Then again Gronk is a once every generation type player. So trying to find the next one seems rather foolish. We really just need a very good receiving TE. A match up nightmare type guy. This draft has a crap load of them. Really helped by a bunch of underclassmen coming out early.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 10:21:27 GMT -5
slapthesign.com/2019/01/23/nfl-alize-mack/walterfootball.com/draft2019TE.phpI'm not the only one that likes the fit. One of the reasons I think the TE class is so deep is a guy like Mack. He's had issues, a good amount of them, yet nothing serious. He's certainly not a normal Patriot type player. Yet as Walter Football shows he might be the fastest and best athlete at TE in the draft. You've certainly seen him make crazy impressive plays for Notre Dame. Yet Notre Dame just doesn't use TEs much in its offense much. Which is kinda mind blowing because they have like four of them that will play in the NFL. He's not a great blocker, but has the ability to be at minimum a good one. Notre Dame has so many good TEs they never even used him as one. A guy to watch because I think he blows up the combine. Just look at that list rounds 2-4 are going to have a bunch of options. It's just a lot of them are like Mack more of a pass catching TE, than a complete TE like Gronk. Then again Gronk is a once every generation type player. So trying to find the next one seems rather foolish. We really just need a very good receiving TE. A match up nightmare type guy. This draft has a crap load of them. Really helped by a bunch of underclassmen coming out early. Cool so you and some chick who’s also a Notre Dame fanatic like Mack. 😝 |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 22, 2019 11:18:53 GMT -5
slapthesign.com/2019/01/23/nfl-alize-mack/walterfootball.com/draft2019TE.phpI'm not the only one that likes the fit. One of the reasons I think the TE class is so deep is a guy like Mack. He's had issues, a good amount of them, yet nothing serious. He's certainly not a normal Patriot type player. Yet as Walter Football shows he might be the fastest and best athlete at TE in the draft. You've certainly seen him make crazy impressive plays for Notre Dame. Yet Notre Dame just doesn't use TEs much in its offense much. Which is kinda mind blowing because they have like four of them that will play in the NFL. He's not a great blocker, but has the ability to be at minimum a good one. Notre Dame has so many good TEs they never even used him as one. A guy to watch because I think he blows up the combine. Just look at that list rounds 2-4 are going to have a bunch of options. It's just a lot of them are like Mack more of a pass catching TE, than a complete TE like Gronk. Then again Gronk is a once every generation type player. So trying to find the next one seems rather foolish. We really just need a very good receiving TE. A match up nightmare type guy. This draft has a crap load of them. Really helped by a bunch of underclassmen coming out early. Cool so you and some chick who’s also a Notre Dame fanatic like Mack. 😝 Have you even seen him make catches? Go look up the 26 yard catch against Michigan and tell me you don't like him. Given where he will be most likely drafted it makes a lot of sense. If he was on a team that threw to the TEs more he'd be rated a lot higher. He's kinda like a Tyler Eifert type TE, he can go up and get the ball. Something we didn't have last year. If you want to target other areas like DT, WR, heck even QB early, he's a great target later in the draft. You don't get the chance to draft guys with his upside in later rounds in many drafts. I know you think Notre Dame sucks, but you'll see in the draft that just isn't true. They are going to have a lot of players picked in this draft and a bunch of them make sense for the Patriots depending on when they get picked. A lot of the top guys line up with our needs. Not many Colleges will have more players drafted this year. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 11:29:27 GMT -5
Cool so you and some chick who’s also a Notre Dame fanatic like Mack. 😝 Have you even seen him make catches? Go look up the 26 yard catch against Michigan and tell me you don't like him. Given where he will be most likely drafted it makes a lot of sense. If he was on a team that threw to the TEs more he'd be rated a lot higher. He's kinda like a Tyler Eifert type TE, he can go up and get the ball. Something we didn't have last year. If you want to target other areas like DT, WR, heck even QB early, he's a great target later in the draft. You don't get the chance to draft guys with his upside in later rounds in many drafts. I know you think Notre Dame sucks, but you'll see in the draft that just isn't true. They are going to have a lot of players picked in this draft and a bunch of them make sense for the Patriots depending on when they get picked. A lot of the top guys line up with our needs. Not many Colleges will have more players drafted this year. You caught the smiley face to show my comment was a joke right? Also, I don’t think ND sucks and even if I did, plenty of great players come from terrible teams and plenty of overrated players come from great teams. Notre Dame has just gotten over rated the last couple of years. Time for them to join a conference. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 22, 2019 11:55:04 GMT -5
Kraft charged with solicitation per several reports.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 12:07:23 GMT -5
Kraft charged with solicitation per several reports. So bogus... old guy gets a couple rub and tugs and they are arresting him. |
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Feb 22, 2019 12:24:47 GMT -5
Kraft charged with solicitation per several reports. So bogus... old guy gets a couple rub and tugs and they are arresting him. Ha. While I agree, there are laws against it, though they may be archaic. i don't think the NFL is going to view it kindly, that is probably the least of his worries right now. Not a good time for suffering indignity at this point in the world. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 22, 2019 12:25:08 GMT -5
Kraft charged with solicitation per several reports. Tom Brady suspended to start the season confirmed. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 12:28:48 GMT -5
So bogus... old guy gets a couple rub and tugs and they are arresting him. Ha. While I agree, there are laws against it, though they may b earchaic. a don't think the NFL is going to view it kindly, that is probably the least of his worries right now. Of course, and I was joking. This case highlights why prostitution should be legal. Countries with legalized prostitution don’t have the same problems surrounding human trafficking that we do in this country. Opening up the sex industry helps eliminate this problem and gets women off the streets and gets all parties into safer healthier situations. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 22, 2019 12:33:26 GMT -5
Looking like the sting is related to a trafficking situation (not that Kraft is anything more than a John)
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 22, 2019 12:45:36 GMT -5
Oh never-mind - he categorically denies it. Apparently super rich dudes always go to seedy Asian massage parlors for the massage. Next story
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Post by mobaz on Feb 22, 2019 12:51:53 GMT -5
Sounds like there is definitely a trafficking aspect (I suppose there usually is in these situations).
Who would have thought Kraft would have been the first of the BB-Brady-Kraft trio to fall? Shocking!
Any chance he comes back after this? Or will he be Richardson-ed out? I think people like him more than they liked Richardson. Jimmy Haslem got out of business fraud
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 22, 2019 12:54:32 GMT -5
Sounds like there is definitely a trafficking aspect (I suppose there usually is in these situations). Who would have thought Kraft would have been the first of the BB-Brady-Kraft trio to fall? Shocking! Any chance he comes back after this? Or will he be Richardson-ed out? I think people like him more than they liked Richardson. Jimmy Haslem got out of business fraud For paying for sex? C'mon. This is literally almost nothing. Richardson was sexually harassing multiple women in the workplace. |
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Post by mobaz on Feb 22, 2019 12:55:41 GMT -5
Sounds like there is definitely a trafficking aspect (I suppose there usually is in these situations). Who would have thought Kraft would have been the first of the BB-Brady-Kraft trio to fall? Shocking! Any chance he comes back after this? Or will he be Richardson-ed out? I think people like him more than they liked Richardson. Jimmy Haslem got out of business fraud For paying for sex? C'mon. This is literally almost nothing. Richardson was sexually harassing multiple women in the workplace. For being charged with a felony. |
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