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Post by mobaz on Aug 27, 2019 7:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Sept 3, 2019 11:18:29 GMT -5
Tatum with an injury at the end of FIBA game. Looks like a sprained ankle only.
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 14, 2019 9:14:11 GMT -5
Ok just to get this going again and as an entree to this seasons expectations. How many games are the C's going to win this year?
Is it a 50 win team? 55 maybe. I am going to be optimistic and say 55.
Toronto will fall back but the Sixers and Bucks should be better.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 14, 2019 11:01:15 GMT -5
Ok just to get this going again and as an entree to this seasons expectations. How many games are the C's going to win this year? Is it a 50 win team? 55 maybe. I am going to be optimistic and say 55. Toronto will fall back but the Sixers and Bucks should be better. 46 |
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 14, 2019 16:51:46 GMT -5
I'm taking 48.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 14, 2019 17:04:04 GMT -5
Yeah 45-50 win range. Right around last year's team, only without the side stories and drama in the middle.
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Post by coke0myfavdrink on Sept 14, 2019 17:14:50 GMT -5
Put me down for 52
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 24, 2019 16:06:50 GMT -5
Are they better than the IT team that made it to the ECF? I think they are. That team won 53 games. The East is weaker with Toronto falling off, yes the Sixers and Bucks are good but who else will be a challenge.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 24, 2019 17:03:18 GMT -5
Are they better than the IT team that made it to the ECF? I think they are. That team won 53 games. The East is weaker with Toronto falling off, yes the Sixers and Bucks are good but who else will be a challenge. The East was way worse back then |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 24, 2019 18:39:17 GMT -5
Other than those 2 I mentioned who is all that good?
Maybe Indiana but it isn't that great now after the top 4.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 24, 2019 19:04:19 GMT -5
Toronto will still be strong. The Nets should be solid. The depth is also better with Orlando, Detroit, and Miami being decent teams. The Bulls are a wild card. Charlotte sucks. The Knicks probably do too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 2:30:30 GMT -5
Yes, all the teams that stunk 3-4 years ago are way better save for the Knicks and the Hornets. It's not even close.
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 25, 2019 9:24:36 GMT -5
Most people are looking at and counting on the young guys to step up and be the difference this year. Everyone seems to be discounting the guy that was a top 25 player a few years ago, Gordon Hayward. He along with Kemba will be the stars of the team with Tatum, then you throw in Smart, Brown and Kanter. This team is being under valued based on last year but it is miles better than the team that IT led. It is just a matter of coming together and playing team ball, which Stevens teams had always done before last yr.
Think about this for a second. Every season under Stevens before last the C's out played expectations right? Something happened last yr that made that team play below expectations. Maybe it was Kyrie, maybe it was Hayward not being ready, maybe it was the maturation of a young team or all of the above. Hayward will be back to his old self and the young guys have learned something, hopefully, and Kyrie is replaced by Kemba. Which hopefully ends up being a good thing. This is a good team that is being under valued at the moment.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 25, 2019 12:53:31 GMT -5
Maybe Stevens doesn’t know how to coach or develop a star player..
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Post by texs31 on Sept 25, 2019 13:01:49 GMT -5
Totally unrelated but Kristaps Porzingis looks like a totally new human.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 14:53:51 GMT -5
Maybe Stevens doesn’t know how to coach or develop a star player.. You do wonder how much success Stevens would have in the big 3 ERA. At least I do wonder. He couldn't manage that team at all last year. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 26, 2019 10:34:06 GMT -5
Maybe Stevens doesn’t know how to coach or develop a star player.. Is it his job to develop a star player? Or is it to get a group of players to play together as a team and win? The problem may be that star players are greedy when it comes to playing a good team game. Is he to blame for that? Maybe but his teams have always produced more than expected. Go and research what he accomplished at Butler, it is remarkable. And what about his career in Boston, his teams always exceeded expectations until last year. I guess we have to wait and see with this season but other than last year his track record is pretty good. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 26, 2019 10:50:15 GMT -5
Maybe Stevens doesn’t know how to coach or develop a star player.. Is it his job to develop a star player? Or is it to get a group of players to play together as a team and win? The problem may be that star players are greedy when it comes to playing a good team game. Is he to blame for that? Maybe but his teams have always produced more than expected. Go and research what he accomplished at Butler, it is remarkable. And what about his career in Boston, his teams always exceeded expectations until last year. I guess we have to wait and see with this season but other than last year his track record is pretty good. His job is to win a Title and you need stars to do that so if he can’t coach stars then he’s useless for a team that wants to win. Maybe he’s a great college coach and maybe he’s a great coach for NBA teams without real expectation. I’m a fan of his, but this is the outstanding question. I think he will figure it out. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 26, 2019 21:00:35 GMT -5
Maybe
If we are talking about this team I don't see Kemba as being one of those types of stars. Then the other guys who could become stars like Tatum and Brown are the reason why it is so important to create their own stars.
I like this team, they could be very good.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 27, 2019 6:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 7:53:31 GMT -5
I have a hard time putting Curry ahead of Kobe in any list. Kobe was a better defender and all around player.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 27, 2019 11:03:01 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion from Kyrie on his season last year. He attributes a lot of his drive and attitude issues last year to the death of his grandfather, and he was reeling most of the year to make basketball and leadership a priority.
This might also contribute to Marcus Smart's difference of opinion on Kyrie's leadership last year, since they were both dealing with impactful deaths at the same time.
I was/am of the "get Kyrie out of here" point of view, but he takes more accountability here than I would have expected. I'm happy with the team as-is and think Kemba will be a better fit, but I appreciate what Kyrie said.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 27, 2019 12:41:06 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion from Kyrie on his season last year. He attributes a lot of his drive and attitude issues last year to the death of his grandfather, and he was reeling most of the year to make basketball and leadership a priority. This might also contribute to Marcus Smart's difference of opinion on Kyrie's leadership last year, since they were both dealing with impactful deaths at the same time. I was/am of the "get Kyrie out of here" point of view, but he takes more accountability here than I would have expected. I'm happy with the team as-is and think Kemba will be a better fit, but I appreciate what Kyrie said. This isn’t a surprise to me. I said it early on. Kyrie is very self reflective and is young and evolving. This is why I hated all the outright hatred and piling on. If you want people to change and develop we need to be more open. It’s alright to analyze a situation but that’s different than constant blame and piling on. It drove him away and I don’t blame him for that. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 14:35:20 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion from Kyrie on his season last year. He attributes a lot of his drive and attitude issues last year to the death of his grandfather, and he was reeling most of the year to make basketball and leadership a priority. This might also contribute to Marcus Smart's difference of opinion on Kyrie's leadership last year, since they were both dealing with impactful deaths at the same time. I was/am of the "get Kyrie out of here" point of view, but he takes more accountability here than I would have expected. I'm happy with the team as-is and think Kemba will be a better fit, but I appreciate what Kyrie said. This isn’t a surprise to me. I said it early on. Kyrie is very self reflective and is young and evolving. This is why I hated all the outright hatred and piling on. If you want people to change and develop we need to be more open. It’s alright to analyze a situation but that’s different than constant blame and piling on. It drove him away and I don’t blame him for that. Yeah, I doubt the people who piled on Kyrie are ever going to apologize for it. They just assumed the worst for the guy and just kept dumping on him after a tragic death that he didn't even reveal. Yeah after a lot of people dumped on me considering those circumstances, I would jump ship ASAP also. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 28, 2019 16:26:13 GMT -5
On another note, who else is looking forward to 3 rookies blending in at times.
The guy picked first with the highest ceiling could be 3rd in minutes played as Williams, I expect, will get minutes and Edwards has a role to fill if he can hit 3's. Langford could be the next Jaylen Brown but have a hard time getting on the floor.
I won't be surprised if they contribute a lot, it's a pretty good draft considering no lottery picks. In the long run I think Williams is going to have a better career than half the top picks.
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