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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 28, 2019 16:49:08 GMT -5
I didn't read it, hate those long strolling lists, but I heard it being discussed on tv. They left Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady off the list? Maybe not T-Mac but AI should be on any list. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 29, 2019 12:02:54 GMT -5
This isn’t a surprise to me. I said it early on. Kyrie is very self reflective and is young and evolving. This is why I hated all the outright hatred and piling on. If you want people to change and develop we need to be more open. It’s alright to analyze a situation but that’s different than constant blame and piling on. It drove him away and I don’t blame him for that. Yeah, I doubt the people who piled on Kyrie are ever going to apologize for it. They just assumed the worst for the guy and just kept dumping on him after a tragic death that he didn't even reveal. Yeah after a lot of people dumped on me considering those circumstances, I would jump ship ASAP also. Why should we apologise? He admits basically everything we said about him and gives a reason why and how he handled it horribly. He's saying it was my bad and you think we should apologize? He admits he was this huge issue that you spent like a year saying wasn't true, it was everyone else. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 2, 2019 4:02:09 GMT -5
Kyrie just doesn't get it. Do you think KG wanted him out there being his protector? He is trying too hard to be the leader. Leaders don't act or talk the way he does, leadership is a natural thing and he doesn't have it. No big deal just play ball, do your part and shut up.
Al should have been the leader last year. Whatever it is the past.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 2, 2019 7:56:35 GMT -5
Kyrie just doesn't get it. Do you think KG wanted him out there being his protector? He is trying too hard to be the leader. Leaders don't act or talk the way he does, leadership is a natural thing and he doesn't have it. No big deal just play ball, do your part and shut up. Al should have been the leader last year. Whatever it is the past. Al isn’t a front and center leader. He’s the quiet guy behind the scenes. Which is fine, but he’s not a face of the franchise type. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 2, 2019 10:00:06 GMT -5
I know I am late to the party but I never really put the blame on Kyrie last year, what I see now is a guy who can't help himself and should just shut up and play. When he opens his mouth he doesn't come off well and that bleeds into the locker room. Hopefully the Celtics prove it on the floor with a rejuvenated D and better chemistry.
I agree on AL, quiet leader but he could have done more last year with reining in Kyrie. It would have been good for Kyrie if someone had. I just think he is more suited to lead by example.
Hopefully he won't lead in Philly either as that team has issues with Embiid and needs veteran leadership. That is a formidable front court right there. I don't even want to think about how scary good that combo could be.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 4, 2019 18:32:37 GMT -5
I know it's just the summer league but Grant Williams was +83 in 4 games, impressive to say the least.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 6, 2019 21:15:47 GMT -5
Guess who led the team with +14, GW. This is why I say he will get real minutes this year he wins.
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Post by ianrs on Oct 7, 2019 11:55:37 GMT -5
Guess who led the team with +14, GW. This is why I say he will get real minutes this year he wins. Pretty amazing how positively hes been impacting games. I think hes a legitimate steal for the Celtics and we'll be able to run some nasty small lineups with him as a Draymond 5, Jaylen at the 4. Super excited for this team! |
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 7, 2019 12:40:52 GMT -5
Want to see more of this!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 7, 2019 14:36:53 GMT -5
Rozier was plus 17 tops for the game in 22 minutes. Helping the Hornets starters outplay our starters.
Danny Ainge is telling everyone to pump the breaks on Hayward. Not what you want your GM saying right before the season.
I do like starting Williams, but that is going to be a big learning curve.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 8, 2019 9:58:58 GMT -5
Danny Ainge is telling everyone to pump the breaks on Hayward. Not what you want your GM saying right before the season. I didn't take it like that. Hayward had to endure a LOT of sh*t this past season, like from the media and even from some teammates. Ainge probably wants to protect him and stop the narrative from being about him again. He's just a really good player on a (hopefully) really good team, move along nothing to see here and all. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 8, 2019 10:19:59 GMT -5
Danny Ainge is telling everyone to pump the breaks on Hayward. Not what you want your GM saying right before the season. I didn't take it like that. Hayward had to endure a LOT of sh*t this past season, like from the media and even from some teammates. Ainge probably wants to protect him and stop the narrative from being about him again. He's just a really good player on a (hopefully) really good team, move along nothing to see here and all. Just spitballing but maybe Danny thinks most fans put too much emphasis on the traditional stat sheet and what his numbers will look like. Which on a team like this to be successful his stats won't be overwhelming, similar to Horford whose contributions out weighed his stats. The starters certainly didn't look good in the first game but I would take Tatum scoring 20 a game on 14 shots for the season. What I want to see is Walker and Gordon do the same. Have to say also that Browns O game didn't look very good, especially for a guy who played recently. But he can play D. Williams is going to earn minutes, yeah I know I have already said it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 8, 2019 13:26:25 GMT -5
Danny Ainge is telling everyone to pump the breaks on Hayward. Not what you want your GM saying right before the season. I didn't take it like that. Hayward had to endure a LOT of sh*t this past season, like from the media and even from some teammates. Ainge probably wants to protect him and stop the narrative from being about him again. He's just a really good player on a (hopefully) really good team, move along nothing to see here and all. For me it was all about timing. All off-season the Celtics have pumped up Hayward and how great he was doing. Looking like a different player. Then we get to camp, Danny sees the team play and we get pump the breaks on Hayward and him wondering if we have enough talent. Just weird comments if Hayward is back to being Hayward or close to it. Doesn't Danny's comments do the opposite? Here we are debating Hayward because of what Danny said, it's been on Boston sports radio. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 10, 2019 10:08:10 GMT -5
Any predictions on Tacko's future?
Is it 5o/50 he succeeds or worse?
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 10, 2019 10:34:07 GMT -5
Any predictions on Tacko's future? Is it 5o/50 he succeeds or worse? Role player at best. He cannot handle the ball and never will be able to. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 10, 2019 10:48:11 GMT -5
His upside is Bobo, right?
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 10, 2019 11:03:41 GMT -5
He couldn't do much in college so I think the chances are slim. He needs a few seasons in the Gleague. His agent won't be doing him any favors if he tries to keep him in the NBA as reported.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 10, 2019 23:27:59 GMT -5
For me it was all about timing. All off-season the Celtics have pumped up Hayward and how great he was doing. Looking like a different player. Then we get to camp, Danny sees the team play and we get pump the breaks on Hayward and him wondering if we have enough talent. Just weird comments if Hayward is back to being Hayward or close to it. Doesn't Danny's comments do the opposite? Here we are debating Hayward because of what Danny said, it's been on Boston sports radio. There could be something we don't know, maybe Danny is trying to motivate Hayward like putting a chip on his shoulder. As far as I can remember, Danny has always been pretty good with the players, so he wouldn't just be negative on Hayward because he doesn't think he's good enough. Hayward's either good enough or Danny would lie. I guess we'll see what happens, but it would be really odd if Danny is being sincere here. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 11, 2019 12:23:07 GMT -5
Or he is simply trying to reduce expectations thus pressure. Which I am sure he is feeling anyway with a contract like that and the performance so far.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 11, 2019 23:14:07 GMT -5
Ok, this is just golden:
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Post by ianrs on Oct 14, 2019 2:34:12 GMT -5
I know it's preseason but Jayden absolutely looks like he's taken his game to the next level. Gordon looks back, too. This team's gonna be so fun and really good.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2019 7:18:11 GMT -5
The good news is the depth in this team went from too deep “where are we going to get everyone minutes?” to pretty lousy so there are plenty of minutes for Hayward, Brown and Tatum. Oddly this is probably better roster construction in the NBA. The only thing that’s really wrong with it is there’s no veteran depth. You want either young guys scrapping for time and developing or veterans who do one or two things really well who are mostly happy they have an NBA Contract and don’t complain about their minutes. This teams bench is 100% young guys which makes them unreliable. Stevens seems to work better with young players who aren’t established or reclamation veterans so this could work but there’s going to be a lot of ugly play from the second units here. Bright side is it’s almost a perfect situation for a guy like Edwards to have free reign which may work well.
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Post by philarhody on Oct 15, 2019 3:56:40 GMT -5
There has been so much made about Tatum shooting more threes and free throws this year. And yet, his stat line from the other night is 2 for 9 with just two threes and one free throw attempted. If this guy’s shot selection doesn’t improve this season, he may never be the perennial all star we were all hoping for.
With that said, I still think him and Jaylen are worth gambling on as your centerpieces. Jaylen looks like a new player this year. Who he is now from who he was coming out of Cal is a totally different player. I think he’s probably gonna be a max guy.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 15, 2019 6:34:25 GMT -5
There has been so much made about Tatum shooting more threes and free throws this year. And yet, his stat line from the other night is 2 for 9 with just two threes and one free throw attempted. If this guy’s shot selection doesn’t improve this season, he may never be the perennial all star we were all hoping for. With that said, I still think him and Jaylen are worth gambling on as your centerpieces. Jaylen looks like a new player this year. Who he is now from who he was coming out of Cal is a totally different player. I think he’s probably gonna be a max guy. They are worth it for no other reason than you have no choice... they are basically married to them. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 15, 2019 11:25:14 GMT -5
They have a good amount of veteran depth, it's just not starting caliber players. I actually love the mix overall. You have the veterans for experience, but also the young guys to grow around Tatum and Brown. Which is what you want.
Gotta say Robert Williams could be the key guy this year. Haven't been able to watch the games but his box scores have been what you want. He's making the defensive plays like Blocks and Steals. D is going to have to be this teams calling card and no one could have a bigger impact than Williams. Even if it's just 15-20 minutes a game.
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