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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Jan 28, 2024 17:24:43 GMT -5
Rooting for Song for a variety of reasons. I'd hope Boston keeps him and we see what he has with another year of training under his belt. For a team (Boston) seemingly hesitant to invest in high-end free agent pitchers and instead focused on "finds" at good value, imagine what a healthy and productive Song could mean to this team. Low salary, and I assume team control for some years, but I don't know about that team control issue.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 28, 2024 18:36:10 GMT -5
Which high end pitchers are you referring to?
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Post by ephus on Jan 29, 2024 13:04:49 GMT -5
So what will happen with Song in 24? There was so much chatter when DD grabbed him and tried to see if he could stick with the big league club. Any chance he could be a surprise in 24? How he looks after a full offseason in a pitching program is sure to be one of the most interesting storylines of the spring. I just hope he has a chance to work without too much pressure, and gets a chance to continue to build back his arm strengh and confidence. I think the site having him slotted for AA is perfect.
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Post by 0ap0 on Jan 29, 2024 13:22:44 GMT -5
Which high end pitchers are you referring to? All of them? I mean, the FO went in to the offseason acknowledging they were lacking in high end pitching, brought in none, and sold their (arguably) best to the Braves. Committing the resources necessary for acquiring/retaining high-end pitching just doesn't seem to be something they're interested in doing. At least not this year.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 29, 2024 16:02:29 GMT -5
Names, please. What "high-end free agent pitchers"? And if acquired through trades then who are they traded for? Step up to the mic.
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Post by christianarroyossock on Jan 29, 2024 19:02:11 GMT -5
Names, please. What "high-end free agent pitchers"? And if acquired through trades then who are they traded for? Step up to the mic. Chill man, he’s right. The Sox really haven’t given out contracts to high end pitchers since the price and sale contracts flopped, so they are understandably hesitant to repeat that. You can see that with Yamamoto this year, not being a front runner for snell, etc.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 29, 2024 19:25:26 GMT -5
Seriously, I'm looking for the names of such pitchers - this year. Yamamoto was never coming to Boston, New York, or Toronto. That was foregone once Ohtani signed for what he did and why he did. Hanging that around the FO's neck is popular, but it doesn't cut any ice for me.
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Post by levi on Jan 29, 2024 19:58:37 GMT -5
You’d think a mod wouldn’t be advocating for trade proposals that aren’t in the trade proposal sub-forum.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 29, 2024 20:04:05 GMT -5
Alright, let's get back to Noah Song...
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 29, 2024 20:36:37 GMT -5
You’d think a mod wouldn’t be advocating for trade proposals that aren’t in the trade proposal sub-forum. Norm was NOT making a ‘trade proposal’! He was asking who the ‘high end pitchers’ were that the commenter was referring to! A very valid question as Song is not a valid option compared to ANY MLB, AAA option. He was not given his release from the military as they correctly made him fulfill his contractual obligation (and ruined any legitimate chance he HAD to be an MLB pitcher). My brother attended the Air Force Academy 1974-1978 then served 17 years and was down sized out. I am very patriotic, I am also a veteran, but only served 6 years. The service academies made an example of Noah Song. Yes, he signed a contract which they made him fulfill (and rightly so) upon graduation from the academy, but this should be a warning that any serious athlete with the slightest pro aspirations should NOT go to a service academy. There are 100s of college and universities that would be a better fit!!!!!! Song said he had no regrets, and still has the option to become an aviator if he wants. He can probably re-enlist. The only loser is the Red Sox and their fans who would have enjoyed seeing him pitch. Unfortunately we can not live two lives at the same time, so we get to see how each turns out, then go back and choose the one we like the outcome of better.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 29, 2024 20:40:12 GMT -5
You’d think a mod wouldn’t be advocating for trade proposals that aren’t in the trade proposal sub-forum. Norm was NOT making a ‘trade proposal’! He was asking who the ‘high end pitchers were that the commenter was referring to! A very valid question as Song is not a valid option compared to ANY MLB, AAA option. He was not given his release from the military as they correctly made him fulfill his contractual obligation (and ruined any legitimate chance he HAD to be an MLB pitcher). My brother attended the Air Force Academy 1974-1978 then served 17 years and was down sized out. I am very patriotic, but through out every military advertisement my 21 and 18 year old boys get in the mail. I am also a veteran, but only served 6 years. The service academies made an example of Noah Song. Yes, he signed a contract which they made him fulfill (and rightly so), but this should be a warning that any serious athlete with the slightest pro aspirations should NOT go to a service academy. There are 100s of college and universities that would be a better fit!!!!!! You forgot the last 4 words. 'for a sports career.'
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 29, 2024 20:49:28 GMT -5
Norm was NOT making a ‘trade proposal’! He was asking who the ‘high end pitchers were that the commenter was referring to! A very valid question as Song is not a valid option compared to ANY MLB, AAA option. He was not given his release from the military as they correctly made him fulfill his contractual obligation (and ruined any legitimate chance he HAD to be an MLB pitcher). My brother attended the Air Force Academy 1974-1978 then served 17 years and was down sized out. I am very patriotic, but through out every military advertisement my 21 and 18 year old boys get in the mail. I am also a veteran, but only served 6 years. The service academies made an example of Noah Song. Yes, he signed a contract which they made him fulfill (and rightly so), but this should be a warning that any serious athlete with the slightest pro aspirations should NOT go to a service academy. There are 100s of college and universities that would be a better fit!!!!!! You forgot the last 4 words. 'for a sports career.' Agreed 100%. They are a great education, and a great career for those that want a military career!! Just not for the minority that want an athletic career. Thank you for the add.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 29, 2024 20:53:23 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Song could've ditched the military and paid his tuition, I think. They didn't have a gun to his head.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 29, 2024 21:36:26 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Song could've ditched the military and paid his tuition, I think. They didn't have a gun to his head. Yes, he could have resigned, and could probably have transferred and got a scholarship somewhere else, but like I said earlier…if you try to accomplish two life courses at once, you might find that neither comes out the way you would have wanted rather than pick one and give it your full focus. If Song wanted a chance to be a MLB pitcher he should have resigned from the military academy, obviously he did not (unfortunately for the Red Sox and their fans).
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Post by levi on Jan 29, 2024 21:48:43 GMT -5
You’d think a mod wouldn’t be advocating for trade proposals that aren’t in the trade proposal sub-forum. Norm was NOT making a ‘trade proposal’! He was asking who the ‘high end pitchers were that the commenter was referring to! A very valid question as Song is not a valid option compared to ANY MLB, AAA option. He was not given his release from the military as they correctly made him fulfill his contractual obligation (and ruined any legitimate chance he HAD to be an MLB pitcher). My brother attended the Air Force Academy 1974-1978 then served 17 years and was down sized out. I am very patriotic, I am also a veteran, but only served 6 years. The service academies made an example of Noah Song. Yes, he signed a contract which they made him fulfill (and rightly so), but this should be a warning that any serious athlete with the slightest pro aspirations should NOT go to a service academy. There are 100s of college and universities that would be a better fit!!!!!! Song said he had no regrets, and still has the option to become an aviator if he wants. He can probably re-enlist. The only loser is the Red Sox and their fans who would have enjoyed seeing him pitch. Unfortunately we can not live two lives at the same time, so we get to see how each turns out, then go back and choose the one we like the outcome of better. Buddy…”And if acquired through trades then who are they traded for?” <- is this not asking for trade proposals?
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Post by Smittyw on Jan 29, 2024 21:54:06 GMT -5
Rooting for Song for a variety of reasons. I'd hope Boston keeps him and we see what he has with another year of training under his belt. For a team (Boston) seemingly hesitant to invest in high-end free agent pitchers and instead focused on "finds" at good value, imagine what a healthy and productive Song could mean to this team. Low salary, and I assume team control for some years, but I don't know about that team control issue. I'm really surprised this line was so controversial. Since DD was fired (4+ years ago), the biggest commitments to starting pitchers have been to guys like Richards, Perez, Wacha, and Paxton.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 29, 2024 21:54:41 GMT -5
Norm was NOT making a ‘trade proposal’! He was asking who the ‘high end pitchers were that the commenter was referring to! A very valid question as Song is not a valid option compared to ANY MLB, AAA option. He was not given his release from the military as they correctly made him fulfill his contractual obligation (and ruined any legitimate chance he HAD to be an MLB pitcher). My brother attended the Air Force Academy 1974-1978 then served 17 years and was down sized out. I am very patriotic, I am also a veteran, but only served 6 years. The service academies made an example of Noah Song. Yes, he signed a contract which they made him fulfill (and rightly so), but this should be a warning that any serious athlete with the slightest pro aspirations should NOT go to a service academy. There are 100s of college and universities that would be a better fit!!!!!! Song said he had no regrets, and still has the option to become an aviator if he wants. He can probably re-enlist. The only loser is the Red Sox and their fans who would have enjoyed seeing him pitch. Unfortunately we can not live two lives at the same time, so we get to see how each turns out, then go back and choose the one we like the outcome of better. Buddy…”And if acquired through trades then who are they traded for?” <- is this not asking for trade proposals? Buddy, he is asking who the commenter has in mind! He is not perposing a trade. Buddy
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 29, 2024 21:54:57 GMT -5
Please stop with all the back-and-forth. Once again, let's stick to Noah Song.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Feb 27, 2024 11:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 27, 2024 15:58:17 GMT -5
That was some ugly from song
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Post by yuchangclan on Feb 27, 2024 23:47:42 GMT -5
48 pages and this guy still can’t throw strikes.
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Post by patford on Feb 28, 2024 0:09:13 GMT -5
48 pages and this guy still can’t throw strikes. He's a long shot at this point but he barely touched a ball for four years; then the Phillies completely mishandled him due to Dombrowski being petty which cost him a year. “I kind of felt like I started off behind the curve all of last year and trying to catch on while still trying to work at max effort was really tough to do.” Then he spent two months this winter with the Navy.
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Post by hank on Feb 28, 2024 12:08:17 GMT -5
48 pages and this guy still can’t throw strikes. same Song, different verse
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 27, 2024 13:43:14 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 27, 2024 13:52:00 GMT -5
Noooo
Now on track to have his first normal minor league season at age 29
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