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mobaz
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Post by mobaz on Jul 16, 2020 12:52:22 GMT -5
Rumors of "some big scandal" with Washington football team supposed to drop today. The buzz is there's no way Dan Snyder can survive it. Hope it lives up to the hype (and is more than a massage parlor visit). He's a terrible owner and DC fans deserve better.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 16, 2020 14:40:26 GMT -5
Rumors of "some big scandal" with Washington football team supposed to drop today. The buzz is there's no way Dan Snyder can survive it. Hope it lives up to the hype (and is more than a massage parlor visit). He's a terrible owner and DC fans deserve better. Well it better be true with how they’ve teased this story
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Post by mobaz on Jul 16, 2020 20:56:15 GMT -5
Rumors of "some big scandal" with Washington football team supposed to drop today. The buzz is there's no way Dan Snyder can survive it. Hope it lives up to the hype (and is more than a massage parlor visit). He's a terrible owner and DC fans deserve better. Well it better be true with how they’ve teased this story The internet rumor mill was more extreme than the reality. 15 female former staffers as well as reporters describe sexual harrasement and verbal abuse as pervasive and with no mechanism to stop it. Snyder or Bruce Allen not implicated directly but built a toxic culture and other execs (as well as the radio voice) led it. Pretty awful stuff. That said, doesn't include coke parties, a coach benching the OT because they slept with the same woman, leading to Alex Smiths broken leg, ref bribing, and Jeffery Epstein connections, all of which had traction in the rumor mill. I bet Snyder survives it.
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Post by philarhody on Jul 17, 2020 7:21:51 GMT -5
Cam Newton is talking quite a bit for someone who may not even be the starting qb on his own team. If Cam’s revenge tour doesn’t meet his expectations, I’m guessing drama will ensue.
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Post by costpet on Jul 17, 2020 12:08:39 GMT -5
That’s not the way Bill likes his players to talk. He’d better keep his mouth shut if he wants to play.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 17, 2020 14:21:33 GMT -5
It's why he got the deal he did, for his talent level it looks like a steal. Yet he doesn't fit in so many ways. It's still very much 50-50, that's he's a very good starter or he gets cut. Nevermind his free spirit, can he learn the playbook in a short period of time? Stidham and Hoyer are like Brady really hard workers that are very smart and go about things in the Patriot way. Newton is the polar opposite, he's been handed the Starter job everywhere he's been all the way back to College. I think he's buying the press thinking he's going to be handed it here also. Where I'm fairly certain Bill wants a competition, where Newton is only the starter if he clearly outplays Stidham. Given our system, that is going to mean Newton has to work harder than he ever has. How does he handle that?
In a perfect world Newton earns the starter spot giving Stidham more time, yet the competition is very close. Pushing both QBs to be better. Stidham gets some playing time, heck maybe even a few starts if Newton is injured. Stidham is ready for next year and Newton earns his big payday.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2020 16:46:58 GMT -5
Let’s not forget Newton has won at every level. That’s hard to do if you’re not a hard worker.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2020 16:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 17, 2020 17:10:20 GMT -5
Well every professional athlete isn't lazy, yet every professional athlete isn't Brady or MJ either.
Most football players don't know what hard work is till they play for certain teams like the Patriots.
We'll see if he works crazy hard there won't be many issues. The bar in New England is crazy high though. We've seen it repeatedly over the years from players coming in here. They didn't understand what hard work was till they played for Bill.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2020 18:00:35 GMT -5
Well every professional athlete isn't lazy, yet every professional athlete isn't Brady or MJ either. Most football players don't know what hard work is till they play for certain teams like the Patriots. We'll see if he works crazy hard there won't be many issues. The bar in New England is crazy high though. We've seen it repeatedly over the years from players coming in here. They didn't understand what hard work was till they played for Bill. That’s fine but you said he was the polar opposite and it sounded like you were saying Newton doesn’t work hard. Didn’t know where it was coming from.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 18, 2020 0:26:11 GMT -5
Well every professional athlete isn't lazy, yet every professional athlete isn't Brady or MJ either. Most football players don't know what hard work is till they play for certain teams like the Patriots. We'll see if he works crazy hard there won't be many issues. The bar in New England is crazy high though. We've seen it repeatedly over the years from players coming in here. They didn't understand what hard work was till they played for Bill. That’s fine but you said he was the polar opposite and it sounded like you were saying Newton doesn’t work hard. Didn’t know where it was coming from. I said that because Cam Newton is the polar opposite of the typical Patriots QBs since Bledsoe. A group of guys like Brady, Hoyer, Cassell, Jimmy, and Stidham. A group that is much better described as crazy hard workers, incredible high football IQ types, that do well off of hard work more than physical ability. 100% focused on football, football junkies. With that we ran the most complex offensive system in football. I don't think Cam Newton has been that type of QB. Not saying he's lazy, but I don't see a guy who's a die-hard worker who wants to perfect his craft and be the best he can be. The guys one of the most talented QBs in the history of the game with his arm talent, athletic ability, speed and power. If he buys in, does things the Patriots way, watch out NFL. It's not just watching game tape either, it's so much more than that. It's the little things and fine details. It's practicing all year at a level few teams do, so your ready for things like say jumping on a football in the Superbowl, not worrying about getting injured. He's just got a very long list of non-patriot type crap. His crap in College is the thing of legends and not in a good way. His below average Wonderlic score at the combine, when most Patriot QBs are well above average. It's a crazy long list.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 20, 2020 9:31:24 GMT -5
At least Sanu is committed to trying to be good this year... contract year special..
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 20, 2020 12:02:49 GMT -5
Sanu will be an okay 3rd WR. You don't want him starting because between him and Edelman you won't stretch the field. We have to hope Harry can do better at that, he's the guy you want as your #2. In a perfect world your #3 would be a speed guy that could take the top off the D to allow those guys to work underneath. Asiasi should help adding more of a vertical threat. Yet we really need either Lee or Thomas to step up.
We have to have more big plays, because without Brady your not going to dink and dunk all game long. The D will do what they did last year and whoever the QB is won't be as good at not taking sacks. The fact both QBs can run will certainly help. Yet you still need to stretch the field. I really like Asiasi yet you can't count on him being that guy as a rookie, like you could with Gronk. While I don't mind the players, Edelman, Harry, Sanu and Myers isn't a great mix for that. Lee can be that guy, yet can he stay healthy?
Jeff Thomas would have been a 2nd or 3rd round pick based just on talent. He's that fast, that athletic and has great ability in the open field. He's a guy that's perfect for kickoffs, Punt returns and being a #5 WR who you bring in to stretch the field. Now if he can just get his act together. I love how his agent steered him to the Patriots. That is either brilliant or very stupid. I can't take another year watching Bolden return kicks and I don't want core players returning punts either. Just look at Sanu getting injured doing that. On tape he has more ability to go up and get balls than Dorsett ever showed, which is why he was horrible at it.
JJ Taylor has a higher Madden rating than Dalton Keene. It's the year of smaller undrafted weapons! Bill rebuilding our weapons with undrafted guys.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 25, 2020 5:53:36 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-pushing-the-nfl-toward-a-financial-cliff-11595592000“The coronavirus pandemic has burst the league’s $16 billion revenue bubble. NFL revenue could fall as much as $4 billion in 2020, depending on factors such as how many fans can attend games, executives familiar with the matter said. The resulting drop in the salary cap for 2021—a figure that’s calculated off the prior year’s revenue—could exceed $80 million, or more than 40% of the current cap at $198 million.”
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 25, 2020 12:17:37 GMT -5
How? We already went through this with much more detail and actual numbers and percentages. 50% of revenue comes from TV and players get like 55% if I remember right. That's about 4.4 billion of the 6.4 billion cap coming from TV money for this year. The likely lost revenue is the lowest part of the salary cap and player get like 40% of it. Nevermind the NFL TV deals have a 7% growth rate built in them. Meaning that 8 billion will grow by 7% and thus the players 4.4 billion will go up 7% next year. Those numbers make zero sense, a 25% decrease in revenue will result in like a 15% drop in the salary cap because the players get a small cut of ticket sales and concession sale etc.
The only way a 25% drop in Revenue could reduce the salary cap by 40% is if that money is TV money. If that happens that means reduced or no games and they would lose way more than 25%.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 26, 2020 5:45:29 GMT -5
rom former Newton tight end Greg Olsen, to ESPN’s First Take: “The one thing (Belichick’s) going to learn about Cam is no one wants to win more than him, nobody’s gonna come every day and practice harder and train harder and prepare better. The things that Cam does so well are pretty much that whole ‘Patriot Way’ of everything is about winning. Cam is going to check all those boxes, so I don’t think they’re going to have any issues on that front. … Is he going to dress different after the game than some of the other quarterbacks? Of course. Cam is his own person. But never at any moment does it ever take away his willingness and his preparation to go out there and win first and foremost. I think that would resonate with all coaches around the league, not just in New England.”
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 26, 2020 5:52:14 GMT -5
How? We already went through this with much more detail and actual numbers and percentages. 50% of revenue comes from TV and players get like 55% if I remember right. That's about 4.4 billion of the 6.4 billion cap coming from TV money for this year. The likely lost revenue is the lowest part of the salary cap and player get like 40% of it. Nevermind the NFL TV deals have a 7% growth rate built in them. Meaning that 8 billion will grow by 7% and thus the players 4.4 billion will go up 7% next year. Those numbers make zero sense, a 25% decrease in revenue will result in like a 15% drop in the salary cap because the players get a small cut of ticket sales and concession sale etc. The only way a 25% drop in Revenue could reduce the salary cap by 40% is if that money is TV money. If that happens that means reduced or no games and they would lose way more than 25%. I don’t know man but it seems the analysis that was done previously here wasn’t correct since the NFL announced yesterday the lowest they’d allow the cap to go is $175m which is $35m lower than the $210m projected. Saints, Eagles, Falcons and Chiefs will be hurting big time if that happens.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2020 11:46:15 GMT -5
How? We already went through this with much more detail and actual numbers and percentages. 50% of revenue comes from TV and players get like 55% if I remember right. That's about 4.4 billion of the 6.4 billion cap coming from TV money for this year. The likely lost revenue is the lowest part of the salary cap and player get like 40% of it. Nevermind the NFL TV deals have a 7% growth rate built in them. Meaning that 8 billion will grow by 7% and thus the players 4.4 billion will go up 7% next year. Those numbers make zero sense, a 25% decrease in revenue will result in like a 15% drop in the salary cap because the players get a small cut of ticket sales and concession sale etc. The only way a 25% drop in Revenue could reduce the salary cap by 40% is if that money is TV money. If that happens that means reduced or no games and they would lose way more than 25%. I don’t know man but it seems the analysis that was done previously here wasn’t correct since the NFL announced yesterday the lowest they’d allow the cap to go is $175m which is $35m lower than the $210m projected. Saints, Eagles, Falcons and Chiefs will be hurting big time if that happens. That's a pile of bull. You just posted an article that acted like the cap could be $120 million. My analysis was the cap would likely go down, yet it wouldn't be huge. So a $175 million and up is right on with what I predicted.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 26, 2020 11:46:30 GMT -5
I think projecting reductions in future salary caps is like spitting into the wind. Until you get to the final numbers and see how many games are played, whether any fans are allowed in, we are totally guessing. A lot is going to depend on how much money the owners lose and how much money the TV people lose. We will not know those numbers until January or February. The owners and TV people are not going to maintain cap level numbers if they lose large chunks of money and let the player salaries continue at the original 2019 projected numbers without some push back. Most people I read say they will be surprised that they make a whole season. No one has ever seen anything like this pandemic thing before. So what happens over the next 3 or 4 months is anyone's GUESS.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2020 11:49:28 GMT -5
rom former Newton tight end Greg Olsen, to ESPN’s First Take: “The one thing (Belichick’s) going to learn about Cam is no one wants to win more than him, nobody’s gonna come every day and practice harder and train harder and prepare better. The things that Cam does so well are pretty much that whole ‘Patriot Way’ of everything is about winning. Cam is going to check all those boxes, so I don’t think they’re going to have any issues on that front. … Is he going to dress different after the game than some of the other quarterbacks? Of course. Cam is his own person. But never at any moment does it ever take away his willingness and his preparation to go out there and win first and foremost. I think that would resonate with all coaches around the league, not just in New England.” Context, who are the guys Olsen compares Newton too? A huge list like Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman and a bunch of other not good QBs that started games for the Bears while he was there.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 26, 2020 11:53:16 GMT -5
rom former Newton tight end Greg Olsen, to ESPN’s First Take: “The one thing (Belichick’s) going to learn about Cam is no one wants to win more than him, nobody’s gonna come every day and practice harder and train harder and prepare better. The things that Cam does so well are pretty much that whole ‘Patriot Way’ of everything is about winning. Cam is going to check all those boxes, so I don’t think they’re going to have any issues on that front. … Is he going to dress different after the game than some of the other quarterbacks? Of course. Cam is his own person. But never at any moment does it ever take away his willingness and his preparation to go out there and win first and foremost. I think that would resonate with all coaches around the league, not just in New England.” Cam certainly appears to be a different personality than recent pats QB's. I also think that Bill thinks he knows what he is getting or he would not have signed him to begin with. Huge diff between Cam and Tom, both in personality and skill set. He has proved that he can win in the NFL and I do not think that Rivera would put up with anything other than working hard and trying to win. We shall see how all of this works out.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 26, 2020 11:56:09 GMT -5
rom former Newton tight end Greg Olsen, to ESPN’s First Take: “The one thing (Belichick’s) going to learn about Cam is no one wants to win more than him, nobody’s gonna come every day and practice harder and train harder and prepare better. The things that Cam does so well are pretty much that whole ‘Patriot Way’ of everything is about winning. Cam is going to check all those boxes, so I don’t think they’re going to have any issues on that front. … Is he going to dress different after the game than some of the other quarterbacks? Of course. Cam is his own person. But never at any moment does it ever take away his willingness and his preparation to go out there and win first and foremost. I think that would resonate with all coaches around the league, not just in New England.” Context, who are the guys Olsen compares Newton too? A huge list like Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman and a bunch of other not good QBs that started games for the Bears while he was there. Okay I get it. you are not happy with the Cam signing, because you are not as high on him as other people. Your opinion and welcome to it.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2020 11:58:09 GMT -5
I think projecting reductions in future salary caps is like spitting into the wind. Until you get to the final numbers and see how many games are played, whether any fans are allowed in, we are totally guessing. A lot is going to depend on how much money the owners lose and how much money the TV people lose. We will not know those numbers until January or February. The owners and TV people are not going to maintain cap level numbers if they lose large chunks of money and let the player salaries continue at the original 2019 projected numbers without some push back. Most people I read say they will be surprised that they make a whole season. No one has ever seen anything like this pandemic thing before. So what happens over the next 3 or 4 months is anyone's GUESS. The NFL just said the Salary Cap won't go below $175 million no matter what happens.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2020 11:59:43 GMT -5
Context, who are the guys Olsen compares Newton too? A huge list like Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman and a bunch of other not good QBs that started games for the Bears while he was there. Okay I get it. you are not happy with the Cam signing, because you are not as high on him as other people. Your opinion and welcome to it. That's not the point I was making.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 26, 2020 12:34:34 GMT -5
I don’t know man but it seems the analysis that was done previously here wasn’t correct since the NFL announced yesterday the lowest they’d allow the cap to go is $175m which is $35m lower than the $210m projected. Saints, Eagles, Falcons and Chiefs will be hurting big time if that happens. That's a pile of bull. You just posted an article that acted like the cap could be $120 million. My analysis was the cap would likely go down, yet it wouldn't be huge. So a $175 million and up is right on with what I predicted. My bad i misread your figures
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