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Post by costpet on Mar 21, 2020 8:28:06 GMT -5
If the virus gets out of control, there may not be a season this year. Then the draft is meaningless for a while. And Brady gets another year older.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 21, 2020 15:31:43 GMT -5
I'm highly intrigued by RB AJ Dillion. Guys a tank a 6' 250 pounds and put up big numbers at Boston College. I was really hoping Howard wouldn't have a market and we could sign him. I want and feel we need a big RB to go with Michel. I was hoping Harris was that guy, yet he either sucks or was in the dog house all last year!
Perry's first mock was offense, offense, offense and I feel the same way. Right now outside of LB's the D looks very good. You will certainly add a few guys for depth and the future, yet I just feel you have to address the offense in a big way.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 22, 2020 16:51:27 GMT -5
Patriots bring back Hoyer. It might mean nothing, but seems like a big telling move that Stidham is the guy. Bring in a good veteran that knows the system and can help him. Maybe things change if a guy like Cam gets released, but seems to end any chance of Winston.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 23, 2020 16:12:44 GMT -5
Goskowski cut
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2020 18:45:54 GMT -5
Patriots have filled most holes besides kicker and TE. I'm sure we'll bring in a few more LBers and other payers for more depth and competition. Yet still nothing at TE.
My first mock and it's likely not close to the Patriots because it's built on need, not just value.
1) Cole Kmet TE
3) Julian Okwara OLB
3) Chase Claypool WR
3) Jake Fromm/ Jalen Hurts QB
4) AJ Dillion RB
5) Rodrigo Blankenship K
6) Keith Ismael C
I'll fill out the remaining five picks soon, focusing on DTs, a coverage LB/inside guy, blocking TE, return guy and just value picks.
A big part of me doesn't want to take Kmet at 23, it isn't great value. Yet let's be frank it's our#1 need and he might not even be there. TEs are going to rise, like they always do and by the late third there might not be much left in a weak class. So I go old school like Daniel Graham and Ben Watson at 23. I was also looking at WR and OT if one of the good one fell to 23.
Okwara is the kind of guy we usually stay away from, but if he's there I take him. Another good athlete that can get after the QB and drop into coverage. Was projected as a first rounder his junior year, yet had a broken leg last year.
Claypool is the deep threat we need and played in an offense similar to ours. Yet this might be a pipe dream as Kiper just put him in the first round. Yet we need a deep threat WR to open up the field.
Fromm and Hurts are just two guys that seem to fit for different reasons.
Dillon in the tough inside RB we needed last year. So many waisted Red Zone trips!
Blankenship is our new kicker.
Ismael is a center for added depth.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 1, 2020 17:47:16 GMT -5
Patriots release Cody Kessler yet reports also say they aren't currently ready to add anyone else.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 1, 2020 17:55:12 GMT -5
Patriots release Cody Kessler yet reports also say they aren't currently ready to add anyone else. He’s kind of useless if you have Hoyer |
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Post by texs31 on Apr 1, 2020 22:02:03 GMT -5
Bill Simmons seem to think that Edelman could be on his way to Detroit soon.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Apr 2, 2020 14:00:43 GMT -5
Bill Simmons seem to think that Edelman could be on his way to Detroit soon. The Lions re-signed Amendola and already have Jones and Golladay, it doesn't seem like a fit. |
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Post by texs31 on Apr 2, 2020 15:55:20 GMT -5
Curran is reporting that a source says "Not a chance in Hell . . . ".
Let's see, Simmons vs Curran . . . who do I bel . . . Curran!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 3, 2020 7:55:09 GMT -5
Patriots release Cody Kessler yet reports also say they aren't currently ready to add anyone else. He’s kind of useless if you have Hoyer With some reports saying they were set, it sets up who they add right? Stidham isn't Brady, you don't role with just two QBs. So it kinda looks like they see what happens in the draft and if that doesn't work out sign a veteran. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 3, 2020 7:57:40 GMT -5
So do Patriots do there normal wait till late in the off-season and then offer Sanu the option of taking a pay cut or being released?
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2020 8:33:55 GMT -5
Bill isn’t going to have guys like Hoyer and Kessler compete with one another. It doesn’t make much sense. They could add a draft pick or if someone like Newton drops into you lap for a minimum contract. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2020 8:36:40 GMT -5
So do Patriots do there normal wait till late in the off-season and then offer Sanu the option of taking a pay cut or being released? I doubt it - his contract isn’t an overpay and he’s a good player. He was hurt last year - him - Edelman and Harry could be a nice trio. They also traded a second round pick for him because he had an extra year on his deal. To turn around and release him would be a bit of a surprise. Bill doesn’t really take the draft pick into consideration but it tells us their intention at the time of the deal so I’m not sure Brady leaving changes their view of Sanu. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 3, 2020 19:05:24 GMT -5
So do Patriots do there normal wait till late in the off-season and then offer Sanu the option of taking a pay cut or being released? I doubt it - his contract isn’t an overpay and he’s a good player. He was hurt last year - him - Edelman and Harry could be a nice trio. They also traded a second round pick for him because he had an extra year on his deal. To turn around and release him would be a bit of a surprise. Bill doesn’t really take the draft pick into consideration but it tells us their intention at the time of the deal so I’m not sure Brady leaving changes their view of Sanu. I don't know how a soon to be 31 year old WR who ranks 41st in pay at his position isn't overpaid given what he did for us. I mean Dorsett had to take a minimum level deal this year. Nelson Agelor got 1.1 million from the Raiders. Nevermind he doesn't really fit with Harry and Meyers. You need an outside guy to stretch the field. The trade was horrible, it was a last ditched effort to try and help Brady. If we still had Brady, sure he'd likely be a lock Brady demanded veterans. Without Brady we'll need more talent and a vertical threat. Maybe Bill still likes the guy, but he's very overpaid, he'd be lucky to get over 2 million as a free agent. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 4, 2020 5:02:41 GMT -5
I doubt it - his contract isn’t an overpay and he’s a good player. He was hurt last year - him - Edelman and Harry could be a nice trio. They also traded a second round pick for him because he had an extra year on his deal. To turn around and release him would be a bit of a surprise. Bill doesn’t really take the draft pick into consideration but it tells us their intention at the time of the deal so I’m not sure Brady leaving changes their view of Sanu. I don't know how a soon to be 31 year old WR who ranks 41st in pay at his position isn't overpaid given what he did for us. I mean Dorsett had to take a minimum level deal this year. Nelson Agelor got 1.1 million from the Raiders. Nevermind he doesn't really fit with Harry and Meyers. You need an outside guy to stretch the field. The trade was horrible, it was a last ditched effort to try and help Brady. If we still had Brady, sure he'd likely be a lock Brady demanded veterans. Without Brady we'll need more talent and a vertical threat. Maybe Bill still likes the guy, but he's very overpaid, he'd be lucky to get over 2 million as a free agent. Judging Sanu based on what he did for the Patriots last year is a terrible way of doing it. First, a receiver entering a team midseason is not easy to do, especially in this offense with Brady and the option routes. Secondly, he was clearly injured. If you want to quibble that he’s over paid a little that’s fine, but it’s not a lot. If the roll into the season without Sanu so they have Edelman, Harry and Meyers plus no tight ends then we can probably say they aren’t trying. |
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Post by texs31 on Apr 4, 2020 8:54:37 GMT -5
In this week's episode of Numbers Without Context.
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Post by costpet on Apr 4, 2020 11:05:19 GMT -5
There's a good chance there may not be a season this year. I can't see them putting 60,000 people shoulder to shoulder by September. I'm sure the owners will get desperate do to something, but the government may not let them.
Perhaps they play to an empty stadium, but then you have the players, coaches, and various workers all exposed. Can't forgo that TV revenue.
Of course, Brady would be a year older and out of practice, so you might not ever see him in a Bucks uniform. Retired a Patriot, as ordained.
PS. Stay out of church. God will give you a pass.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2020 13:02:20 GMT -5
I don't know how a soon to be 31 year old WR who ranks 41st in pay at his position isn't overpaid given what he did for us. I mean Dorsett had to take a minimum level deal this year. Nelson Agelor got 1.1 million from the Raiders. Nevermind he doesn't really fit with Harry and Meyers. You need an outside guy to stretch the field. The trade was horrible, it was a last ditched effort to try and help Brady. If we still had Brady, sure he'd likely be a lock Brady demanded veterans. Without Brady we'll need more talent and a vertical threat. Maybe Bill still likes the guy, but he's very overpaid, he'd be lucky to get over 2 million as a free agent. Judging Sanu based on what he did for the Patriots last year is a terrible way of doing it. First, a receiver entering a team midseason is not easy to do, especially in this offense with Brady and the option routes. Secondly, he was clearly injured. If you want to quibble that he’s over paid a little that’s fine, but it’s not a lot. If the roll into the season without Sanu so they have Edelman, Harry and Meyers plus no tight ends then we can probably say they aren’t trying. I would have agreed with that if his numbers weren't fairly close to what they were with the Falcons. If you consider about five million a little ok I guess we agree. They guy has never been that great of a player, he just a big possession receiver and if you have Edelman, Harry and Myers he doesn't really fit. I have zero issues keeping him if he reworks his deal, but I don't see his value if Stidham is the QB. You could add a guy like Sharpe for the Vet minimum. We need money to make trades and sign draft picks. He's clearly the most overpaid guy on the roster. I much rather use that money to trade for a TE and then draft a young WR that can be an outside guy that Stidham can grow with. Things are going to be very different without Brady. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 5, 2020 5:22:44 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Apr 5, 2020 9:39:05 GMT -5
I'd do that first trade. Work the second round, open a list of possibilities. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 6, 2020 15:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by beasleyrockah on Apr 6, 2020 16:18:25 GMT -5
This draft is going to be fascinating, and I expect complete chaos and multiple clock stoppages as teams have trouble getting the information in on time. The lack of war rooms will be much more of a problem for teams with shared decision makers than the Patriots. I wonder if all else is equal, would Bill rather load up in this draft or push picks into 2021? There are arguments for both sides.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 7, 2020 11:43:31 GMT -5
I'd do that first trade. Work the second round, open a list of possibilities. The more I study the draft, if the right person isn't there, I love that trade. |
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Post by texs31 on Apr 7, 2020 13:48:02 GMT -5
Doug Kyed (NESN) posted 7 ideas for a trade back from 23. I like that one but, if you don't want to drop that far, Miami could be a target at 39 (getting 56 and 185) but costing you 100 and 212 (in addition to 23).
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