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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 2, 2021 16:32:41 GMT -5
NFL contracts... never what they seem.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 2, 2021 18:46:50 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 2, 2021 19:10:38 GMT -5
He could but the last 2 years have shown a pretty good decline in his production from his peak. So having a competent tight end versus nothing is a huge upgrade but he’s been a borderline number 1 |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 2, 2021 19:43:16 GMT -5
He could but the last 2 years have shown a pretty good decline in his production from his peak. So having a competent tight end versus nothing is a huge upgrade but he’s been a borderline number 1 I just see him splitting targets with Irv Smith Jr. The great thing is he should be a lot cheaper and I don't think he's really declined. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2021 6:32:15 GMT -5
He could but the last 2 years have shown a pretty good decline in his production from his peak. So having a competent tight end versus nothing is a huge upgrade but he’s been a borderline number 1 I just see him splitting targets with Irv Smith Jr. The great thing is he should be a lot cheaper and I don't think he's really declined. It’s possible, I’d have to look deeper into the numbers but they dropped at a higher rate than his snap count. I’d take him in a heartbeat at the right price. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 3, 2021 13:45:38 GMT -5
I'm not Vikings fan so this is just by the stats, it looks like they went to a two TE set. About the same number of targets to TEs for the year, just split between the two TEs. I don't think you get that 2016 version, yet 500 to 600 yards and a bunch of TDs seems likely.
The only problem is half the league is likely going to be in on him. Yet adding Rudolph and Van Noy would be one hell of a start to free agency.
Interesting note, people think this is just the start of cuts like this.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 3, 2021 14:41:34 GMT -5
Someone quoted an agent who said that next week is "going to be a massacre" (re: Cuts)
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2021 16:15:02 GMT -5
Someone quoted an agent who said that next week is "going to be a massacre" (re: Cuts) A lot of teams in tough cap situations. Money will dry up fast for these free agents. It’s a good year to have money and a lot of roster holes to fill. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 3, 2021 16:23:13 GMT -5
What can you get for Gilmore on a one year 7.3 million deal when teams have no money? There's been so much talk about trading him, you have to consider what that trade would look like.
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Post by costpet on Mar 3, 2021 18:01:58 GMT -5
I'd take a 3rd rounder for Gilmore. We're already strong in CB's and Safeties. Load up on draft choices and sign some key free agents. With a decent QB we could be darn good next year. Just have to wait for all those free agents to hit.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2021 18:53:44 GMT -5
I'd take a 3rd rounder for Gilmore. We're already strong in CB's and Safeties. Load up on draft choices and sign some key free agents. With a decent QB we could be darn good next year. Just have to wait for all those free agents to hit. God no, and they aren’t as loaded with corners as you think. They actually could use one with JMac being a free agent, JC restricted and Gilmore in his last year. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2021 18:59:57 GMT -5
By the way I’m all in on Mac Jones at 15 if he’s still there.
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Post by cdj on Mar 3, 2021 20:04:00 GMT -5
Throw Delanie Walker on the veteran TE list. He’s playing in 2021. Pats were rumored to have a little interest in him last offseason but he didn’t play due to covid + healing up injuries
He would be a bargain bin type signing
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 4, 2021 2:06:07 GMT -5
I'd hate just a 3rd, more like a 2nd and 5th, or a young player at a need position like DT, WR or TE.
I don't think Jason is going anywhere and you do have Williams. Are we done with Williams?
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 4, 2021 6:16:01 GMT -5
I'd hate just a 3rd, more like a 2nd and 5th, or a young player at a need position like DT, WR or TE. I don't think Jason is going anywhere and you do have Williams. Are we done with Williams? I think Williams best bet is as a situational player - hard to see him as a regular corner... maybe a safety? I honestly am not sure. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 4, 2021 14:26:13 GMT -5
I want to give Williams a chance at being the #3 CB. Otherwise that was a disaster of a pick given they traded up for him and Bill said they had a first round grade on him. Time for that pick to pay off.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 7, 2021 8:23:58 GMT -5
Reports are Jimmy G is the Patriots plan A at QB and are going to make a strong push for him.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 8, 2021 10:39:56 GMT -5
www.si.com/nfl/draft/.amp/mocks/monday-2021-nfl-mock-draft-7-rounds-trades-free-agency-predictionsSome crazy crap in this, yet if you're trading Gilmore getting Jimmy is about as good as it gets. I'd certainly hope they add on like three years, drive his cost down a little this year, yet not tons of guaranteed money. Some of the other moves make some sense, yet not really as Samuel isn't the type of WR we really need. You go Payne over Parsons, it makes some sense. Yet take the more ready impactful player that has a lower bust rate. I like the center and guard players, yet it's literally a draft of replacing players they have us losing in free agency. Wise, Thuney and Andrews. Not a big fan of this approach. I do like Max Milne WR 4th round, yet you need more! You will never develop a great WR core acting like that. Given Jimmy's injury history you pass on Trask and he drops to the 4th round? You'd have to feel Stidham is ready to step in, yet given last year that seems foolish.
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Post by mobaz on Mar 9, 2021 6:50:51 GMT -5
Pats to trade back for Trent Brown, who will be on a 1 year $11m deal.
He seemed a little overrated to me while here so it surprises me. Guessing Thuney is gone and Wynn will be in the mix at LG or RT depending on where Onwenu fits best.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 9, 2021 7:05:54 GMT -5
Pats to trade back for Trent Brown, who will be on a 1 year $11m deal. He seemed a little overrated to me while here so it surprises me. Guessing Thuney is gone and Wynn will be in the mix at LG or RT depending on where Onwenu fits best. That’s certainly possible, but it’s also possible it means Cannon is going. His salary is too high for him. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 9, 2021 7:11:13 GMT -5
Pats to trade back for Trent Brown, who will be on a 1 year $11m deal. He seemed a little overrated to me while here so it surprises me. Guessing Thuney is gone and Wynn will be in the mix at LG or RT depending on where Onwenu fits best. Not sure about overrated maybe you are right but the Pats won that SB with an O that was ground and pound. Put Brown and 350 lb Onwenu beside each other and I can see some line of scrimmage domination. That is one way to overcome the lack of talent at WR and TE. Pats could have the #1 Oline next year. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 9, 2021 7:12:58 GMT -5
Cannon is all but gone without a major contract restructure.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 9, 2021 7:22:10 GMT -5
They could go a number of different ways:
Brown/Wynn/Andrews(FA)/Mason/Onwenu
Brown/Onwenu/Andrews(FA)/Mason/Wynn
Wynn/Onwenu/Andrews(FA)/Mason/Brown
The last 1 might be best but it's also possible that Brown agreed to this restructure based on the fact that he'd be LT and heading back to FA next year as such.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 9, 2021 7:25:59 GMT -5
Looks like it's 2022 picks (Pats get a 7th and give a 5th) per Rapsheet.
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Post by mobaz on Mar 9, 2021 8:06:34 GMT -5
Pats to trade back for Trent Brown, who will be on a 1 year $11m deal. He seemed a little overrated to me while here so it surprises me. Guessing Thuney is gone and Wynn will be in the mix at LG or RT depending on where Onwenu fits best. Not sure about overrated maybe you are right but the Pats won that SB with an O that was ground and pound. Put Brown and 350 lb Onwenu beside each other and I can see some line of scrimmage domination. That is one way to overcome the lack of talent at WR and TE. Pats could have the #1 Oline next year. I'm just wary of the guys who had one good year and leave the Pats in FA for big dollars. Hopefully the team can get the best out of him again (a la Jamie Collins). The deal is up to $11m so I'm guessing there are snap and game incentives if it's not working. "Fits the system, good enough, and at a reasonable price" is probably fine with as many holes as this team has. As noted by Field Yates, the Pats will be in line to get another comp pick if Brown succeeds and leaves again. |
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