Patriots 2021 Offseason Thread

4 years? Jeez hopefully that’s to keep cap number down.

Yeah I think it’s safe to say Bill did not like being run on

According to Bedard, the Bucs and Patriots were both in on Suh and Guy and when Suh picked the Bucs, Guy returned to New England.

Speaking of the Bucs, can I now say “told you so” that they’d bring the band back? I mean it’s basically all back together there.

You only get one and you already got it! Yeah I didn't think they'd give out a one year deal to Gronk with four voidable years to make his cap hit 3 million on a ten million dollar contract. I didn't think Gronk would want to make it that much harder if he wants to come back for another year. I didn't envision so many voidable years, like the three with Brady that results in massive cap savings. I didn't see Shaq Barrett taking a deal that basically means he's going to be cut after two years given what he could have got from other teams. If you thought they were going to use voidable years in almost every deal to reach savings no one predicted congratulations. I've never seen an NFL team use so many voidable years in my life. It's like Hockey years ago before they banned those crazy long deal with low salaries in years they would never play to lower the AAV.

That sucks because Suh is what we needed, he can actually dominate games unlike Guy. If you could have signed Suh, then draft Parsons they might have had the leagues best D.

Jimmy G coming back shortly...

If they need a veteran QB to pair with their QB draftee, wouldn't Cam Newton going back to SF in a deal (along with draft picks) for Garropolo fit the bill?

I mean it seems obvious that SF is moving on from Jimmy G sooner than later and the Pats at this point want him to be their starting QB for the long-term.

I can't help but wonder if the Pats would be better off simply finding a way to draft Mac Jones and start anew.

Upon reading other stories, to even get Mac Jones the Pats would have to give up a lot just to trade up to get him.

This doesn't bode well for the Patriots to get their QB of the future and then present situation doesn't exactly inspire and unless the 49ers are getting a lot back there's no real reason for them to downgrade their season with Jimmy G to go to Cam.

Feels like the Pats are boxed in.

I don't think they'd want Newton, nor do I think Bill wants to trade him. Newton is Jimmy insurance given the way he gets injured.

The easiest way is that Jimmy restructures, say add on a few years and I've always thought Gilmore could be the key to getting him. Gilmore isn't just a draft pick, he's a massive upgrade for them at a position where they have a need.

Yet if there plan was to trade up to get a QB, then trade Jimmy why didn't they sign a backup? There plan may very well be to keep Jimmy for another year to groom the guy they draft and he'd be their insurance policy. So no I don't think this means as much as some do.

How do you rate the QBs? Because right now it seems like three are going in the first three picks. Most have Lawrence and Wilson as the top two, after that it gets tricky. The 49ers have been linked to Fields, yet maybe they want Mac Jones.

Look at the costs they just set the market with, 3 first round picks and a third to jump up 9 spots.  Then Dolphins paid a first and switching lower picks to move up 6 spots. To make matters worse, it now appears both Darnold and Jimmy won't  be traded, just messing up the supply and demand even more. The draft just got a whole lot more interesting  and it’s still a month plus out.

Or maybe the Jets don’t want to draft a QB

Playoff Lenny back in Tampa... i remember when he was getting 8m a year in free agency. 🤷🏻‍♂️

So I watched Kellen Mond's tape. Was on my list, yet after seeing someone rank him fourth I moved him up.

Better than I expected, like I don't agree with my draft magazines ranking him 4/5th round. Watch his highlights and you think he's first round talent. Athletic, can move around, really run it and has very good arm strength. Can make NFL throws and has really improved from his early years.

Watch the Bama tape highlights, again why isn't he a first/second round guy? Watch advanced film breaking down his NFL level throws, he makes a ton of them. Now watch Bama tape, every play of his in that game. There it is, his mechanics can breakdown and result in a lot of bad throws. I mean BAD throws, like not even close. Both Bama and senior bowl he starts out slow and then gets going. When he's right he looks like a 1st/2nd round guy, when he's off he doesn't look like he belongs in the NFL.

Mac Jones and Trask put on clinics with accuracy compared to Mond. Yet Mond is a much better athlete with a stronger arm. Second most game played of any QB in the draft. He's got starter upside, it's just can you improve his mechanics, his feet and coach him up more on advanced stuff?

You watch Mac Jones/Trask and you see Patriot type QBs. Advanced level QBs that really run an offense that are highly accurate. The misses are close, very few horrible balls. Mond had like 15 horrible throws versus just Bama, yet also some really good NFL quality ones. I can see it, yet your drafting him with the hopes of what you can make him into, how much you believe in the player and his ability to keep getting better. I can certainly see someone ranking him over Trask based on upside, yet if you rank him over Fields/Lance that says more about them than him.

I really think Mac Jones will be available at 15, although his impressive pro day might change that. I am onboard with taking him there and would also be happy with another impact guy. Some have Parsons falling that far or maybe Payne or Rousseau. Please stay away from a WR though, too much bad history, as in like cursed.