mobaz
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Post by mobaz on Aug 5, 2021 14:26:19 GMT -5
JCJ showing up well in practice. Love to see it. Hope he sticks around.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 6, 2021 13:05:00 GMT -5
Bills have Josh Allen 6/256 with 150m guaranteed…. A lot to commit to a due you haven’t seen do it in front of a crowd. Will be interesting to see how they can build around him and his huge cap hit when it kicks in…. They’ve been a good drafting team though which will be key moving forward.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 7, 2021 13:48:55 GMT -5
Raekwon McMillan Reportedly Suffers Season-Ending ACL Injury…
He was on a lot of people’s projected 53
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 7, 2021 18:32:25 GMT -5
Dalton Keane on IR - done for year.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 7, 2021 18:33:14 GMT -5
Random non-Patriots tid-bit… Since the end of his rookie deal, Kirk Cousins has signed 4 contracts covering 7 years (1st 2 were franchise tags)… he’s received about $194m ALL GUARANTEED. That’s incredible…. He’s the best at signing contracts that there is. So mediocre at QB but an amazing contract getter. This is why players are crazy to complain about the franchise tag. He played the system and won big. QBs probably - risk of injury for other positions is a lot higher…
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2021 10:17:15 GMT -5
Dalton Keane on IR - done for year. That's not a bad thing in my book.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Aug 8, 2021 10:31:52 GMT -5
Dalton Keane on IR - done for year. That's not a bad thing in my book. That was my first thought as well. Aside from the two, big-time free agent signings, the Pats also have Devin Asiasi fresh off the COVID reserve list. It'd be a stretch to have them carry fourth tight end, also not out of the question.
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Post by cdj on Aug 8, 2021 10:31:54 GMT -5
Dalton Keane on IR - done for year. That's not a bad thing in my book. A very good thing IMO. I didn’t see him making the roster
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2021 11:32:55 GMT -5
Mike Tomlin said James Washington didn't request a trade, after reports say he did. I would certainly monitor that situation, he'd be a great pickup.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 9, 2021 12:34:53 GMT -5
Dalton Keane on IR - done for year. That's not a bad thing in my book. I was resisting making any proclamations on this type of thing right now with some much time left for guys to get hurt, but I agree if the other TEs stay healthy it’s probably a net positive for the franchise.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 10, 2021 5:35:12 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Aug 10, 2021 7:48:39 GMT -5
I still think the Pats should have moved up for Fields when he dropped to 11, but Jones+Barmore might end up being more valuable. Very excited for that dude.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 12, 2021 5:17:45 GMT -5
LT Isaiah Wynn: Cross your fingers that Wynn doesn't get bit by the injury bug because he has looked outstanding so far. He's playing with confidence and loose — could be as a result of the team picking up his fifth-year option for a decent chunk of coin. There should be no talk of him kicking inside. Hopefully he stays healthy. He also talks about how Mason’s pass blocking is catching up to his run blocking… how Brown looks to be the same guy as last time in Foxboro and says Onwenu has been best guy in camp and will be an All-pro very soon. www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/08/11/bedard-patriots-breaking-down-patriots-line-play-campDT Christian Barmore: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rookie interior pass rusher this good this soon, and I saw some good ones in Miami and Green Bay. I can't even find a comp for him — former Packer Johnny Jolly comes to mind, but Barmore is more ferocious and powerful at this age. Now the Patriots need to figure out if he can two-gap on early downs, and keep him on the field (Barmore going off and then back on the practice field is becoming a regular occurrence). If he stays on the field, people are going to wonder why they overrated Adam Butler for so long. Barmore is WAY better.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 12, 2021 11:01:55 GMT -5
LT Isaiah Wynn: Cross your fingers that Wynn doesn't get bit by the injury bug because he has looked outstanding so far. He's playing with confidence and loose — could be as a result of the team picking up his fifth-year option for a decent chunk of coin. There should be no talk of him kicking inside. Hopefully he stays healthy. He also talks about how Mason’s pass blocking is catching up to his run blocking… how Brown looks to be the same guy as last time in Foxboro and says Onwenu has been best guy in camp and will be an All-pro very soon. www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/08/11/bedard-patriots-breaking-down-patriots-line-play-campDT Christian Barmore: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rookie interior pass rusher this good this soon, and I saw some good ones in Miami and Green Bay. I can't even find a comp for him — former Packer Johnny Jolly comes to mind, but Barmore is more ferocious and powerful at this age. Now the Patriots need to figure out if he can two-gap on early downs, and keep him on the field (Barmore going off and then back on the practice field is becoming a regular occurrence). If he stays on the field, people are going to wonder why they overrated Adam Butler for so long. Barmore is WAY better. Who overrated Adam Butler? He was always a very nice undrafted free agent, I wasn't sad to see him go. I don't know why anyone would compare an undrafted free agent to a guy seen as a top 15 pick, that dropped because his effort level runs hot and cold. Based on just pure talent Barmore is likely the most talented DL guy we've drafted since Seymour a few decades ago.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 12, 2021 14:54:25 GMT -5
LT Isaiah Wynn: Cross your fingers that Wynn doesn't get bit by the injury bug because he has looked outstanding so far. He's playing with confidence and loose — could be as a result of the team picking up his fifth-year option for a decent chunk of coin. There should be no talk of him kicking inside. Hopefully he stays healthy. He also talks about how Mason’s pass blocking is catching up to his run blocking… how Brown looks to be the same guy as last time in Foxboro and says Onwenu has been best guy in camp and will be an All-pro very soon. www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/08/11/bedard-patriots-breaking-down-patriots-line-play-campDT Christian Barmore: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rookie interior pass rusher this good this soon, and I saw some good ones in Miami and Green Bay. I can't even find a comp for him — former Packer Johnny Jolly comes to mind, but Barmore is more ferocious and powerful at this age. Now the Patriots need to figure out if he can two-gap on early downs, and keep him on the field (Barmore going off and then back on the practice field is becoming a regular occurrence). If he stays on the field, people are going to wonder why they overrated Adam Butler for so long. Barmore is WAY better. Who overrated Adam Butler? He was always a very nice undrafted free agent, I wasn't sad to see him go. I don't know why anyone would compare an undrafted free agent to a guy seen as a top 15 pick, that dropped because his effort level runs hot and cold. Based on just pure talent Barmore is likely the most talented DL guy we've drafted since Seymour a few decades ago. The point was that people thought Butler was a good interior pass rusher (which he really wasn’t) so they are about to see what a good interior pass rusher is. Wasn’t a player Comp.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 12, 2021 15:51:20 GMT -5
Who overrated Adam Butler? He was always a very nice undrafted free agent, I wasn't sad to see him go. I don't know why anyone would compare an undrafted free agent to a guy seen as a top 15 pick, that dropped because his effort level runs hot and cold. Based on just pure talent Barmore is likely the most talented DL guy we've drafted since Seymour a few decades ago. The point was that people thought Butler was a good interior pass rusher (which he really wasn’t) so they are about to see what a good interior pass rusher is. Wasn’t a player Comp. Who clueless fans that think sacks are an end all? It's all about the total pressures, which is sacks, hurries and QB hits combined. Butler had 34 over the last three years, Winovich had 37 last year alone. Aaron Donald the gold standard had 170 over the last three years. Good chance Barmore gets more pressures next year than Butler did in three years.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 12, 2021 16:46:32 GMT -5
The point was that people thought Butler was a good interior pass rusher (which he really wasn’t) so they are about to see what a good interior pass rusher is. Wasn’t a player Comp. Who clueless fans that think sacks are an end all? It's all about the total pressures, which is sacks, hurries and QB hits combined. Butler had 34 over the last three years, Winovich had 37 last year alone. Aaron Donald the gold standard had 170 over the last three years. Good chance Barmore gets more pressures next year than Butler did in three years. Idk man but there were plenty of people lamenting the loss of Butler - that’s all he was saying. Nothing more - don’t get fixated on it wasn’t the point.
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Post by cdj on Aug 12, 2021 21:45:53 GMT -5
Encouraging performance
Nice to see Stevenson show off home run ability
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Post by marrcus on Aug 12, 2021 22:54:05 GMT -5
Yeah he isn't going to get many opportunities like that but even though he's not particularly fast he's still quick enough to go for long run and not be caught from behind. Jones looked pretty much exactly as anticipated. I know kickers are mostly FA signings but this UM kid should have been drafted -I'd say- after this first look at him. Hope they have a healthy preseason.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 13, 2021 5:29:46 GMT -5
Yeah he isn't going to get many opportunities like that but even though he's not particularly fast he's still quick enough to go for long run and not be caught from behind. Jones looked pretty much exactly as anticipated. I know kickers are mostly FA signings but this UM kid should have been drafted -I'd say- after this first look at him. Hope they have a healthy preseason. He didn’t kick well in college - it’s not a surprise he wasn’t drafted. He said the Patriots coaching has helped his approach to the ball which helped his accuracy. If he kicks like this, the rest of camp then he better make the team. He’s probably already kicked himself off the PS onto someone’s roster.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 13, 2021 5:47:33 GMT -5
I wonder how we would have felt about Mac if Wilkerson didn’t drop that dime for a TD…. Was nice to see Mac throw the ball down the field when the starting oline was in front of him. Quick throws were smart with that backup line. Wasn’t perfect but he looked good.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 13, 2021 6:10:12 GMT -5
Respect:
Cam Newton says of Mac Jones, "his preparation is pristine...He's going to keep getting better and better."
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Post by voiceofreason on Aug 13, 2021 6:54:09 GMT -5
Yeah he isn't going to get many opportunities like that but even though he's not particularly fast he's still quick enough to go for long run and not be caught from behind. Jones looked pretty much exactly as anticipated. I know kickers are mostly FA signings but this UM kid should have been drafted -I'd say- after this first look at him. Hope they have a healthy preseason. It was a bit surprising that he has the speed to not get caught from behind, that is fast. Think about it, the fastest players on the field are cornerbacks and WRs so to not get caught by CBs you have to be fast. He looked both quicker and faster than I expected from a 230 lb guy. I have been in the keep Sony camp for depth and his play until now but if the Pats were to shop him what could they get? A late 3rd or 4th rd pick? It might still be smarter to keep him for depth as if Harris went down they would go from deep to weak fast. Bolden is the roster cut imo as Stevenson can play on special teams and the Pats are pretty deep on SP teams as it is. Mac looked good completing about 70% in his first game.
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Post by voiceofreason on Aug 13, 2021 7:15:05 GMT -5
My crazy call for the season is that BB plays both Cam and Mac by mid season. Cam will most likely be starting in the beginning, if he looks good he stays #1. But most likely he won't look great and Mac will be starting by mid October. Then BB will pull a Saints move and throw Cam in to run RPO once in a while in short yardage. That would make the opposing D have to prepare for more looks and BB loves making it hard on the opposition. Remember the Seahawks game last year. The Pats were successful with Cam in the gun running RPO many times all game and then they finally stopped him on the last play of the game or the Pats win it. I think we will see a lot of that this year, Bill playing both guys.
Also if the Pats are down late or down by more than 10 or so who would you rather see in there, for me that will be when Mac gets his first shot or 2. I think BB will believe they have a better shot in coming back from down a couple scores with Mac. Maybe just maybe that will be the Bucs and Brady game, they will be down and Mac will make his 1st appearance, how fitting.
Don't go crazy on me, these are just a few out there calls.
The Mac Cam name thing is funny btw.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 13, 2021 9:02:11 GMT -5
Yeah he isn't going to get many opportunities like that but even though he's not particularly fast he's still quick enough to go for long run and not be caught from behind. Jones looked pretty much exactly as anticipated. I know kickers are mostly FA signings but this UM kid should have been drafted -I'd say- after this first look at him. Hope they have a healthy preseason. It was a bit surprising that he has the speed to not get caught from behind, that is fast. Think about it, the fastest players on the field are cornerbacks and WRs so to not get caught by CBs you have to be fast. He looked both quicker and faster than I expected from a 230 lb guy. I have been in the keep Sony camp for depth and his play until now but if the Pats were to shop him what could they get? A late 3rd or 4th rd pick? It might still be smarter to keep him for depth as if Harris went down they would go from deep to weak fast. Bolden is the roster cut imo as Stevenson can play on special teams and the Pats are pretty deep on SP teams as it is. Mac looked good completing about 70% in his first game. He was going against the 3rd stringers there and that one guy had a chance to chase him down but pulled up. I don’t want to diminish him, I’m just not yet convinced he actually has home run speed.
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