Patriots 2021 Offseason Thread

I’ve been out on Wentz since he accidentally locked himself inside a NJ turnpike bathroom, can’t have that kind of bumbling energy running your offense

If reports about hun ignoring coaches and running his own plays are true then he changed. That doesn’t mean that’s why he isn’t an MVP, but he certainly changed in a way, I wouldn’t touch him

What does that even mean? Every QB in the league changes plays at the line based on D, heck Brady did that more than any QB.

I have read a few and even that one touches on the issues. The he can't self reflect, take responsibility, lossing is never on him, doesn't take hard coaching well. That matches up with the others and are issues for me.

Occasionally changing a play he doesn't like isn't an issue for me. Why was the coach calling plays his QB doesn't like?  Sounds like a coach trying to teach him a lesson and that's even worse in my opinion.

Brady would do that crap all the time. Heck per Bruce Arien's Brady just basically called all his own plays in the Superbowl and the whole game plan was his. That team got better because the coach gave his QB freedom to do what he does best and do it his way. Which was a huge difference from Arien's deep vertical system he loves.

If Wentz does well for the Colts and I think he will, who was the problem? Bill runs everything with an iron fist, yet even he gave Brady a ton of slack to do things his way. I think this is a perfect example why coaches shouldn't call the plays. Brian Kelly did that at Notre Dame and it created friction with his QBs and everything got better when he stopped doing it. You want the coach yelling at the OC not the QB when things go wrong.

You believe in him that much? I'm not saying that's wrong, he's the ultimate boom/bust guy for me. I'm highly intrigued, yet also very reluctant to trade up for such a raw player. I'd feel a lot better if the conversation was take him at 15 or pass, not trade up.

Cross a trade for Marcus Mariota off the list, wow his contract is crazy. So many incentives. If he's good and plays a bunch, his salary basically doubles. Yet if he's released, I want him. I can see him doing what they wanted Newton to do. Improve your passing accuracy, while still giving you a great running QB. Yeah if you want Lance he makes even more sense. They are both very similar, add in Stidham and that's three QBs who could all play the same system, unlike last year.

It's a lot more than he's worth, it takes away your ability to add to the rest of the team.  Which is why I'd go after a guy like him in the first place. Per reports they had no interest in Wentz because of his contract, he's at 25 and 22 million the next two years.

Kinda of a moot point because he's not getting anything close to 20 million this year with the cap dropping and right now I'd say there's a great chance he gets cut.

I can't endorse Cam Newton. I didn't see a guy that needed more time, I saw a guy who doesn't have the arm talent to run our system. Even the one they tailored around him.

I would expect a full camp, by summer they can get the vaccine which would change everything. Article today saying drug makers will have hundreds of millions of doses by July. By the end of March they predict we'll have had 220 million doses, enough for a third of the Country.

Not to go on a vaccine tangent, but the J&J vax will probably get approved by this weekend and that's a single-doser. That said, I've been involved in regular conversations with the players' association regarding PSA's to help overcome vaccine hesitancy - the NFLPA leaders are all for it, except the players themselves, who make their living with their bodies, remain distinctly uncomfortable with getting vaccinated (we're getting the same concerns from the NBA, albeit via the agents).

If the players are going to get vaccinated at rates that would allow a resumption of normal off-season activities, it's going to take some bargaining with the league and assurances of a loosening of in-season restrictions.

You don't need 75% vaccination to get heard immunity, just vaccination plus people who already have immunity from having it equalling 75%. It's going to happen quicker than people think, heck your already seeing a huge downward trend with only 44.1 million getting at least one dose so far.

For me the key will be the amount of new cases per day, not vaccination rates because we really have no clue how many people have already had it.

Sorry, misread that. In my defense my eyes are dilated so I can hardly see.

What’s up with Stidham? Reports that the team had no confidence in him and they played Cam down the stretch to prevent a player revolt have to be concerning.