Celtics 2021 Offseason

At least he's well known for his open and clear communication and follow-through so I'm sure the team will be able to plan accordingly!

Udoka: "Let me bitch at the refs. You guys play through plays and move on to the next thing and let me be the guy who complains to the ref. That's not the team we want to be and that's not who I am. I don't want the team to start crying about every call."


If he can get Tatum to stop complaining then he needs to be in the HOF immediately.

I don’t like playing the race card but young, little white dude that’s never played high level basketball is going to have a tough time in this area. Why a guy like Ime was a necessary hire.

Agreed and I mean look at Brad. He couldn't fight a squirrel. Now Ime looks like a badass and he played some hard nosed game. If he tells you to do something, you BETTER do it.

Completely unnecessary and untrue potshot at Jaylen Brown. It’s especially lame considering he just busted his ass for him for a handful of years. Kinda sad that somebody is this off-put by a thoughtful individual speaking truth to power on specific issues that he would claim something silly like this but I digress

Guy is the least shallow and most thoughtful individual on the team. He is everything kyrie wishes he was off the court.

Also for the record just because you had a diverse array of favorite athletes growing up means jack about real world issues that Jaylen speaks on carefully and articulately. It’s great that you think that way but you can’t use it to paint broad strokes of society at-large

He brought up the race card and little white dude that never played, so that's exactly what he meant.

Literally a draft knock on him from scouts was that he would opt for career paths other than basketball that would be more meaningful. Multiple articles were written about this, they’re not hard to find.

You can have your own personal beliefs and views but quite frankly it’s tone deaf when you try to speak for an entire community and dismiss their plight because youve been around for decades and faced your own plight or whatever you’re trying to say. Most of its completely irrelevant. You took an illogical pot shot at him, it is what it is. He didn’t say he wouldn’t respect a white coach with no playing experience. He said Black coaches should have more representation in a sport that’s 90% black. Those are two different things and They SHOULD have more representation in authority positions for that matter. It’s finally starting to reflect that. They should have more representation in football too. You basically claim you want a meritocracy- well if this was truly a meritocracy they would be more represented in authority roles in leagues they absolutely dominate.

Certainly doesn’t seem like you always cheer for JB….you kind of just shit all over him because of your own world view shaped by your own experience. I suggest re-reading the sentence immediately after the one of mine you bolded. You’re completely dismissive of another individual and ultimately the community that he speaks up for and their experiences/perspectives all while almost insisting people be accepting of yours because “stuff was real in your day” and that was a real struggle. Yeah, it’s not the Jim Crow era. Doesn’t mean things can’t continue to improve….I mean he’s from a state that just had a prosecutor indicted for showing favor to a white father and son that murdered a black man. By your logic he shouldn’t care about that because you went through way worse growing up or something? Do you see how that doesn’t translate?

But anyways, this is off course. I just thought the potshot at Jaylen was nonsense for the blatantly obvious reasons that have been brought up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The implication is that he wouldn’t listen to or respect a white coach and that’s been proven demonstrably false by, you know, his existence and career to this point. I’m sorry him speaking out about black people being underrepresented in positions of authority in a league they dominate ruffled your feathers though.


The funny part is that I agree with you in thinking that what you were responding to was an off-base take- it’s just off base because star NBA players complain. They all do. Like non-stop. It’s because officials reward them for it. Doesn’t matter who tells them to stop, they’re not going to listen. Did lebron listen to Ty Lue? Doesn’t matter if it’s Brad or Byron Scott. Could be a purple coach. Doesn’t matter. They’re going to complain the second somebody breathes on them in the paint. That goes for Tatum, Lebron, Doncic, Paul, whoever.


Only reason I brought up kyrie was to point out that Jaylen is actually very intelligent and kyrie is the fraud that tries to act like he’s very intelligent.

My take was based on reading the room of THIS team not my personal beliefs. We are analyzing a team here. And it’s not much of a hot take since one of the best players on the team ASKED for it:

www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/jaylen-brown-on-why-its-important-for-celtics-and-nba-to-hire-african-american-head-coaches/amp/


I never said white coaches can’t succeed. They have and they will in the future. However, the fact there were so few black coaches, but so many black players and black coaches trying to be head coaches for YEARS AND YEARS, means there’s a huge talent pool of people basically being ignored, which means that’s where you should be looking versus in the same pool that keeps getting recycled over and over. The players know this and the rest of us should know this as well. You’re not hiring the guy based on the color of his skin; you’re hiring him because he deserves a job based on everything else. The reality is there’s a backlog of these people who happen to have black skin because they’ve been largely ignored for decades.

You need to read the room. When there’s talent that’s black that is being ignored and most of your players are black and you hire some retread or first time white guy over a deserving black candidate then you are setting yourself up for failure. If Pop was available, the no one would have an issue hiring him.

I have no clue how to take what was said other than the way I did. No reason to bring race into the discussion. When you do it comes off as something bad. For me, it's as simple as they needed a change because Stevens lost the lockeroom and he admitted as much. I blame Gordon Hayward and the advice he gave Stevens. Add in the Walker situation and a flawed roster and it created the perfect storm.

I just don't buy the connection stuff and so little in common crap. They are all US citizens and Stevens is a rather young coach. Do you think most Patriot players can relate to Bill? The guy that enjoyed playing lacrosse more than football?  I do 100% believe Stevens is a darn good coach and has been known as a players coach. Kinda hard to be that if you can't connect with the players.

LeBron James wants his teams and coaches to basically do whatever he wants. That seems like the worst example ever. Frankly this whole thing comes off as more of a players issue than anything Stevens did. Stevens did nothing to warrant his team full of adults being paid millions  to have them quit on him. Fairly sure we can thank Kemba Walker for that per reports.

www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/brad-stevens-admitted-he-lost-the-celtics-locker-room

We can blame Kemba for Brad losing the locker room? Please explain or share one of those reports.

Also, not Brads fault for a bunch of adults not doing their job but it is either Kemba’s fault or Kyries fault for those things happening… got it.

How does anything here put the blame Kemba?

There's no need to be speculating on that. We can't pinpoint the team's shortcomings perpetually at "locker room dysfunction" and we especially shouldn't do that laying the fault at a player who's not even here anymore. Kemba just didn't make sense for this roster, he's an undersized score first ball dominant guard. And you have 2 of the best wings in the NBA next to him being relegated to ISO or pop up Js. That was not the optimal way to maximize them.