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Post by tizzle on Feb 23, 2023 18:46:17 GMT -5
Orlov seems like a great fit. A hell of a lot to give up for two rentals though.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 23, 2023 18:47:57 GMT -5
Orlov seems like a great fit. A hell of a lot to give up for two rentals though. We will see if they are rentals |
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Post by cdj on Feb 23, 2023 19:10:49 GMT -5
Well that definitely puts them in a good spot to make a run lol
WOW.
My bet is Orlov walks as a FA and Hathaway stays. But Idc about that now. The boys have a cup to win!!
Orlov has been Washington’s 2nd best D for awhile imo and Hathaway is a high end 4th liner. He’s a huge pain in the ass and he’s from Kennebunkport
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Post by tizzle on Feb 23, 2023 19:31:43 GMT -5
Orlov seems like a great fit. A hell of a lot to give up for two rentals though. We will see if they are rentals Well, they are rentals, because they aren't signed past the end of year. Even if you re-sign them, you could have done that after the season, so trading for them is a rental and then a signing. These guys aren't like Lindholm. He was a premier player, if you get any indication from him he'd re-sign, then it's worth giving extra to have him on your team to get that deal done before he can get to the market. Orlov agin is decent, maybe worth bringing back, but he's not so tremendous that you should buy the rights to negotiate with him before there's competition. There are plenty of guys in his category you could sign in the offseason, and he'll be 32 before next season. Hathaway is just a 4th line guy, dozens of guys like him. Plus, the deal seemed to come together quickly so not much chance they've talked contract with them. Again, I think they help this year and we're going for it, as we should. So no real complaints. Just cost a lot. We've made cap space too. Rumors that another deal is coming. One guy is tweeting that Reilly and Zboril are going to be gone. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 23, 2023 19:39:40 GMT -5
Orlov is probably a top 30 defenseman in hockey. Def top 50. VERY good player.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 23, 2023 19:46:08 GMT -5
Stunner!! Wow!!
MUCH better than anything I was hearing about Gavrikov.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 21:15:49 GMT -5
I like this trade bruins have enough scoring but we gain a lot of grit. Garnet Hathaway and Brad Marchand on the same team makes me wonder who will be the bigger pain in ass?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Feb 24, 2023 7:48:28 GMT -5
Anyone looked to see when the last time was that both the Bs and Cs were so dominant?
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Post by texs31 on Feb 24, 2023 11:24:00 GMT -5
Mark Allred saying more moves are coming with Reilly and Zboril likely on the way out.
Could be just moving money.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 24, 2023 11:35:38 GMT -5
Mark Allred saying more moves are coming with Reilly and Zboril likely on the way out. Could be just moving money. Reilly doesn’t save them anything on the Cap |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 24, 2023 12:32:50 GMT -5
Mark Allred saying more moves are coming with Reilly and Zboril likely on the way out. Could be just moving money. Reilly doesn’t save them anything on the Cap Not correct. You can only bury 1.125M when sending a player to the minors. So that means 1.875 of his deal is still counting against the cap. FWIW, Wagner is counting as 225K against for the same reason. |
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Post by texs31 on Feb 24, 2023 15:13:56 GMT -5
Reilly and Lauko healthy scratches from Prov. Wonder if Lauko is the sweetener for someone to take Reilly.
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Post by tizzle on Feb 24, 2023 17:14:59 GMT -5
Mark Allred saying more moves are coming with Reilly and Zboril likely on the way out. Could be just moving money. What I am guessing. It's kind of hard to picture them having the ammo to do much else. And there's not much else that you could do, really Some people want them to acquire a scoring RW and move Frederic to 4th line C. But even if you don't like Nosek (who I think is just fine in his role), he is one of the best face-off men in the league. And Frederic is terrible at it. Do you really want your defensive line to just be giving away possession every time there's a face-off? I don't think that's a great idea. |
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Post by foreverred9 on Feb 24, 2023 20:01:35 GMT -5
Anyone looked to see when the last time was that both the Bs and Cs were so dominant? That run in the 1970s has to be it, Bruins were elite or great for most of the decade and the Celtics had their best regular season ever in 72/73, were very strong in 74/75, and won the title in 73/74 and 75/76 in less dominant years. But to narrow it to a specific year, they sort of just missed each other. The Bruins peak dominance was 70/71 and 71/72, then dropped a bit in 72/73 when Celtics peaked. 73/74 might be the best option as the Bruins had their 6th best regular season by point pct and the Celtics won the title with their 25th best regular season by win pct (which is crazy that season barely breaks into the top 25, as they were second best in the NBA that year). Same thing in 2007-08 when the Celtics won the title (3rd best regular season) but it was the following season when the Bruins nearly won the presidents cup (9th best regular season). This year's Celtic season is just their 20th best season. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 24, 2023 20:44:47 GMT -5
These guys aren't like Lindholm. He was a premier player, if you get any indication from him he'd re-sign, then it's worth giving extra to have him on your team to get that deal done before he can get to the market. Orlov agin is decent, maybe worth bringing back, but he's not so tremendous that you should buy the rights to negotiate with him before there's competition. I think you're underrating Orlov a bit. I also think it was a bit of an overpay, but Orlov isn't a bad guy to do it because he's just damn close to elite. |
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Post by tizzle on Feb 25, 2023 14:41:18 GMT -5
These guys aren't like Lindholm. He was a premier player, if you get any indication from him he'd re-sign, then it's worth giving extra to have him on your team to get that deal done before he can get to the market. Orlov agin is decent, maybe worth bringing back, but he's not so tremendous that you should buy the rights to negotiate with him before there's competition. I think you're underrating Orlov a bit. I also think it was a bit of an overpay, but Orlov isn't a bad guy to do it because he's just damn close to elite. I'm not. He's a good player, a great fit, I'd be 100% fine with re-signing him and moving Grzelcyk. All I'm saying is he's a rental. Even if you do ultimately resign him, that just makes him a rental you happened to resign later. What I was trying to say is that maybe you could make a case that a player isn't a rental if they are really elite and you want to to keep them off the market. ie Lindholm. In that case, you're considering having the opportunity to negotiate with a guy before anyone else can to have value. Bu that only really applies to elite players. It's not that valuable to do with even a very good player like Orlov, imo. There are other players at his skill level who will be FAs. This is kind of an opaque discussion and not all that worth continuing anyway. Of course, with Lindholm it seems we had at least broached an extension before acquiring him, while with Orlov we don't have the cap to really even discuss it now, which makes the whole thing kind of moot anyway. Main point is we got tougher and better with the move. It cost a lot, but the team is going for it now. Which is understandable. |
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Post by tizzle on Feb 25, 2023 21:41:20 GMT -5
Ullmark with the Goal! What a shot!
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Post by texs31 on Feb 25, 2023 21:55:21 GMT -5
1st Bruin ever. 9th in the NHL (via SOG). Others have been credited with goals but they were "own goals".
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Post by cdj on Feb 26, 2023 1:48:47 GMT -5
Wagon
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Post by cdj on Feb 27, 2023 22:12:58 GMT -5
Hathaway with a big impact through 2 periods so far
Orlov looking like a steady eddy
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Post by cdj on Feb 28, 2023 22:33:23 GMT -5
They’re getting absolutely dominated and are up 2-1 despite being out shot 32-7
Linus is a god among men
Orlov with both goals
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Post by LoneStarSox on Feb 28, 2023 23:58:33 GMT -5
That was one of the most memorable games of my life!
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 1, 2023 0:06:51 GMT -5
They’re getting absolutely dominated and are up 2-1 despite being out shot 32-7 Linus is a god among men Orlov with both goals Yes this game has been a dud and they do deserve to lose BUT that call where they called a penalty against the B's where CLEARLY not one Bruin touched a Flame from a Referee far from the play is beyond belief. This is not high-school, college nor even the minors , so there is no excuse for referees to get that, that wrong. Two choices for a honest business here you are either put on probation or fired, yet that does not happen in profesional sports. So they must be doing what they are told to do, NO??? How can a logical mind rationalize any different? I'm convinced that there are games in proffesional sports that launder money. No? If the third biggest bank in the world launders money for the mexican cartel, AND it was proven it did as this is not a conspiracy theory but an actual reality so stop trying to deny reality here as the USDA begrudgingly fined the bank a miniscule fine only after pressure from the public. Netflix has a documentary on this. Everything I just stated in this paragraph is an actual fact that cannot be disputed by anyone in anyway shape or form. Love that they won in OT but it changes nothing that I stated above. Far to often people here rationalize that the referees calls have nothing to do with the outcome and that the team deserves to lose becuase of how they played. Right or wrong, that over simplifies the reality of the actual truth and ignores reality because there are far to many among us that simply love sports and do not want to believe it to be true, and the truth can simply be dammed to secure what they want to believe. I don't expect anyone to agree with this but I have to say my piece. |
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Post by LoneStarSox on Mar 1, 2023 0:30:08 GMT -5
They’re getting absolutely dominated and are up 2-1 despite being out shot 32-7 Linus is a god among men Orlov with both goals Yes this game has been a dud and they do deserve to lose BUT that call where they called a penalty against the B's where CLEARLY not one Bruin touched a Flame from a Referee far from the play is beyond belief. This is not high-school, college nor even the minors , so there is no excuse for referees to get that, that wrong. Two choices for a honest business here you are either put on probation or fired, yet that does not happen in profesional sports. So they must be doing what they are told to do, NO??? How can a logical mind rationalize any different? I'm convinced that there are games in proffesional sports that launder money. No? If the third biggest bank in the world launders money for the mexican cartel, AND it was proven it did as this is not a conspiracy theory but an actual reality so stop trying to deny reality here as the USDA begrudgingly fined the bank a miniscule fine only after pressure from the public. Netflix has a documentary on this. Everything I just stated in this paragraph is an actual fact that cannot be disputed by anyone in anyway shape or form. Love that they won in OT but it changes nothing that I stated above. Far to often people here rationalize that the referees calls have nothing to do with the outcome and that the team deserves to lose becuase of how they played. Right or wrong, that over simplifies the reality of the actual truth and ignores reality because there are far to many among us that simply love sports and do not want to believe it to be true, and the truth can simply be dammed to secure what they want to believe. I don't expect anyone to agree with this but I have to say my piece. did you purchase your tinfoil hat online or make it yourself? |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 1, 2023 0:55:37 GMT -5
Great answer its as if the response was your own actual response without influence and that you actually watched the sources i refered to. Clearly you did not. Can even one person respond who has a shread of knowledge that saw the documentaries etc? Listen simply because you can't handle the response does not make me a basement dwelling tin-foil hat wearing person, in fact I'd question you where that though of yours even comes from? You can't respond to that either because that thought is not your own either. Before you accuse me of belonging to one party or another I'd stop you there too. No political party should think for you. If you think strictly by party lines then maybe just maybe you are the problem because you think along party lines instead of for yourself. Hopefully fodder for thought. I'll tap out here if you'd like to continue do so off line as this is not the correct venue for this conversation, all apologies.
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