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Post by nomar on Jan 13, 2023 10:48:53 GMT -5
A Seabold for Leiter swap might actually be a good move. Steamer projects Leiter at 3.56 xFIP (0.4 WAR) and Davenport’s model projects him at 3.68 ERA (0.6 WAR). This is a good idea IMO. If you remove his starting pitching appearances, his relief numbers (which were ~75% low leverage granted) were really solid. 10.5 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 3.3 FIP, 3.19 xFIP, 2.87 ERA. He’s been tougher on lefties than righties too, which could be useful. I’m surprised he is who got DFA’d.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 13, 2023 10:56:13 GMT -5
A Seabold for Leiter swap might actually be a good move. Steamer projects Leiter at 3.56 xFIP (0.4 WAR) and Davenport’s model projects him at 3.68 ERA (0.6 WAR). He'd have to go to the 40 man in the scenario, right? If so, who does Leiter bump off? Seems pretty unlikely that he'd have the edge up on any of the guys in the mind of the front office
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 13, 2023 10:58:30 GMT -5
A Seabold for Leiter swap might actually be a good move. Steamer projects Leiter at 3.56 xFIP (0.4 WAR) and Davenport’s model projects him at 3.68 ERA (0.6 WAR). He'd have to go to the 40 man in the scenario, right? If so, who does Leiter bump off? Seems pretty unlikely that he'd have the edge up on any of the guys in the mind of the front office This was my thought as well, I'd take him over Brasier but Seabold for him doesn't make much sense seeing how both sides would have to turn around and clear another spot on their 40 man.
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Post by levi on Jan 13, 2023 11:03:08 GMT -5
A Seabold for Leiter swap might actually be a good move. Steamer projects Leiter at 3.56 xFIP (0.4 WAR) and Davenport’s model projects him at 3.68 ERA (0.6 WAR). He'd have to go to the 40 man in the scenario, right? If so, who does Leiter bump off? Seems pretty unlikely that he'd have the edge up on any of the guys in the mind of the front office I would easily replace Ort with Leiter, who can get LHH out. Ort doesn’t really have any + pitches. Leiter has a very good CH that was -7 run value last year resulting in .096 xBA, .120 xSLG, .161 xwOBA. Also 72nd percentile whiff rate — Red Sox bullpen could use more of that.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 13, 2023 11:33:22 GMT -5
There is no ambiguity: multiple women say Bauer assaulted them. Yes, one consented to being with him *at first.* women have the right to change a yes to a no. Unconsciousness is an automatic no (teach yer children). And all the post-act texts etc. are not out of line in cases of trauma. And by the way: what kind of exploitative piece of trash gets off on punching women under any circumstance? Any team that signs him deserves to he boycotted. Sorry, I think this is a fact-less post that doesn't fit the trials narrative.
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Post by manfred on Jan 13, 2023 11:43:13 GMT -5
There is no ambiguity: multiple women say Bauer assaulted them. Yes, one consented to being with him *at first.* women have the right to change a yes to a no. Unconsciousness is an automatic no (teach yer children). And all the post-act texts etc. are not out of line in cases of trauma. And by the way: what kind of exploitative piece of trash gets off on punching women under any circumstance? Any team that signs him deserves to he boycotted. Sorry, I think this is a fact-less post that doesn't fit the trials narrative. It’s true. I forgot there was a third woman.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 14, 2023 3:20:42 GMT -5
WOW, the Mets used the same doctor as the Giants to evaluate Correa. Twins say thank you.
Apparently, that doctor has never examined him.
At that point, btw, he told his agent, "make me a Twin." Sox wouldn't have had a chance at that point.
ADD: Correa has never been one of my favorites but now I'm rooting for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 13:32:05 GMT -5
At least they have Carlos Rodon now and he definitely won’t get hurt
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Post by runner on Jan 14, 2023 14:03:33 GMT -5
At least they have Carlos Rodon now and he definitely won’t get hurt That Frankie Montas trade has been a disaster for the Yankees so far.
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Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2023 14:55:56 GMT -5
At least they have Carlos Rodon now and he definitely won’t get hurt That Frankie Montas trade has been a disaster for the Yankees so far. Never trust A’s pitchers. Montas’ expected stats didn’t match his reputation to begin with. Waldichuk will probably be better than him within the next couple of years too. Glad they dealt him.
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Post by levi on Jan 14, 2023 22:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 15, 2023 11:31:14 GMT -5
Mancini got 2/14 with an opt out and $7 million of incentives. Woof.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 17, 2023 4:50:34 GMT -5
Another great one gone....
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Post by benzinger on Jan 19, 2023 16:44:35 GMT -5
One year @ $3.75m is a real steal for the Royals. Assuming he’s healthy, I’d think there is a pretty good chance he outperforms Jansen this year.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 19, 2023 16:46:26 GMT -5
Would be hard to root for Chapman but putting that aside, I'd have liked to have him for that price vs joely Rodriguez.
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Post by incandenza on Jan 19, 2023 16:56:30 GMT -5
Would be hard to root for Chapman but putting that aside, I'd have liked to have him for that price vs joely Rodriguez. Joely has much better FIP (3.14 vs. 4.07) and xFIP (3.36 vs. 3.62) numbers over the last three seasons, a pretty considerable sample. Better by xERA too. And Chapman looked generally cooked last season. And also he's 4 years older. And also he choked his girlfriend. And also Rodriguez is cheaper. Under no circumstances and by no set of considerations would I prefer Chapman to Rodriguez.
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Post by benzinger on Jan 19, 2023 17:00:47 GMT -5
Would be hard to root for Chapman but putting that aside, I'd have liked to have him for that price vs joely Rodriguez. That’s an absolute steal. Assuming even moderate success, he’s already a hot trade chip at the deadline this year, too.
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Post by benzinger on Jan 19, 2023 17:08:41 GMT -5
Would be hard to root for Chapman but putting that aside, I'd have liked to have him for that price vs joely Rodriguez. Joely has much better FIP (3.14 vs. 4.07) and xFIP (3.36 vs. 3.62) numbers over the last three seasons, a pretty considerable sample. Better by xERA too. And Chapman looked generally cooked last season. And also he's 4 years older. And also he choked his girlfriend. And also Rodriguez is cheaper. Under no circumstances and by no set of considerations would I prefer Chapman to Rodriguez. Joely Rodriguez is a nobody, though. He’s never pitched more than 50 innings in a season. He’s never even had any sustained success as a pro. He has negative WAR for his entire career. He’s a sub-replacement level guy that they signed on the cheap. He’s filler. Aroldis, on the other hand, has been to the top of Mt. Everest. He has pitched(and sometimes flopped) on the biggest of stages. He has some of the best stuff in the history of the game. I’m not sure if he’s healthy, but if he is, this will be a great signing. I’ll take him over Joely Rodriguez(whoever that is) any time.
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Post by incandenza on Jan 19, 2023 17:17:01 GMT -5
Joely has much better FIP (3.14 vs. 4.07) and xFIP (3.36 vs. 3.62) numbers over the last three seasons, a pretty considerable sample. Better by xERA too. And Chapman looked generally cooked last season. And also he's 4 years older. And also he choked his girlfriend. And also Rodriguez is cheaper. Under no circumstances and by no set of considerations would I prefer Chapman to Rodriguez. Joely Rodriguez is a nobody, though. He’s never pitched more than 50 innings in a season. He’s never even had any sustained success as a pro. He has negative WAR for his entire career. He’s a sub-replacement level guy that they signed on the cheap. He’s filler. Aroldis, on the other hand, has been to the top of Mt. Everest. He has pitched(and sometimes flopped) on the biggest of stages. He has some of the best stuff in the history of the game. I’m not sure if he’s healthy, but if he is, this will be a great signing. I’ll take him over Joely Rodriguez(whoever that is) any time. What does it matter what Chapman "has been" in the past? I'll take Triston Casas over Miguel Cabrera this season too.
I guess you're citing bWAR, which I find totally meaningless as a predictive stat, but in any case Joely has out-fWARed Aroldis over the last three seasons (1.4 vs. 0.6) and has slightly more IP (109 vs. 104).
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Post by scottysmalls on Jan 19, 2023 17:25:51 GMT -5
Chapman had a 17.5% walk rate last year - that's the worst in baseball for guys who threw at least 30 innings - and his fastball is down 3 MPH from his peak. He's not getting that velo back at age 35. From a pure baseball perspective totally get the move as flier for the Royals, but it's just a flier.
Beyond that I would never want him on the Red Sox, even if he was still pitching like it was 2012.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jan 19, 2023 17:31:11 GMT -5
Joely has much better FIP (3.14 vs. 4.07) and xFIP (3.36 vs. 3.62) numbers over the last three seasons, a pretty considerable sample. Better by xERA too. And Chapman looked generally cooked last season. And also he's 4 years older. And also he choked his girlfriend. And also Rodriguez is cheaper. Under no circumstances and by no set of considerations would I prefer Chapman to Rodriguez. Joely Rodriguez is a nobody, though. He’s never pitched more than 50 innings in a season. He’s never even had any sustained success as a pro. He has negative WAR for his entire career. He’s a sub-replacement level guy that they signed on the cheap. He’s filler. Aroldis, on the other hand, has been to the top of Mt. Everest. He has pitched(and sometimes flopped) on the biggest of stages. He has some of the best stuff in the history of the game. I’m not sure if he’s healthy, but if he is, this will be a great signing. I’ll take him over Joely Rodriguez(whoever that is) any time. a dizzying amount of hyperbole in here. The best stuff in the HISTORY OF THE GAME? lol yeah alright I know some people here have made it their life's mission to be as dour as possible about something as trivial as baseball, but a post-prime pumping up of former Yankee and all around awful person Aroldis Chapman was not on my bingo card
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Post by benzinger on Jan 19, 2023 17:38:17 GMT -5
Joely Rodriguez is a nobody, though. He’s never pitched more than 50 innings in a season. He’s never even had any sustained success as a pro. He has negative WAR for his entire career. He’s a sub-replacement level guy that they signed on the cheap. He’s filler. Aroldis, on the other hand, has been to the top of Mt. Everest. He has pitched(and sometimes flopped) on the biggest of stages. He has some of the best stuff in the history of the game. I’m not sure if he’s healthy, but if he is, this will be a great signing. I’ll take him over Joely Rodriguez(whoever that is) any time. a dizzying amount of hyperbole in here. The best stuff in the HISTORY OF THE GAME? lol yeah alright I said “some of the best stuff in the history of the game”. And it’s true. You’ve seen him in his prime. He was absolutely terrifying. He’s averaged 14.7k/9 for his career. How many pitchers can top that? I think he also has the record for fastest pitch ever? So yeah, his stuff is pretty good.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 19, 2023 18:57:29 GMT -5
This franchise has become such a joke we're pining for washed up wife beater Aroldis Chapman.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 19, 2023 19:10:10 GMT -5
This franchise has become such a joke we're pining for washed up wife beater Aroldis Chapman. FreshPrinceWe?.gif Speak for your own damn selves. If you're lamenting not getting Chapman, time to do some self reflection. Nobody holding a gun to you and making you watch the 2023 team. Chapman gun pun intended
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Post by cdj on Jan 19, 2023 19:53:17 GMT -5
Literally the player on the market I was least interested in the Sox adding
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