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Evaluating the Front Office and Ownership
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 27, 2022 22:57:43 GMT -5
It’s like we basically have the opposite of DD in our FO. DD just dished out contracts at will with no regard to value. Can’t be in that extreme and expect sustainable results.
This one is the other extreme, if it’s not value then it’s not happening. Ben Cherrington fluctuated between both extremes in his tenure.
We need some sort of happy medium
Need to try to get Theo back, I’d also take Hazen but he really seems to like running Arizona.
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Post by incandenza on Dec 27, 2022 23:07:02 GMT -5
Reminds me of an episode of West Wing where a candidate for president hosts a "till they drop" press conference outside a nuclear plant that he had pushed to open which had an incident. The presser works in that he answers all of the reporters questions and eventually they have nothing else to pester and the media turns in his favor. I'd enjoy seeing Bloom do this, because I do to your point, think he could offer answers to each that are at least understandable to the general public and personally I'd enjoy a little more positivity in the team's coverage. I also think, with a fan base so passionate, it's kind of nice to have some direct accountability in that way. Now, a GM isn't dependent on public votes in the same way, and the show was notoriously optimistic about human nature (I'm not sure that there's any scenario where Felger says nice things about the team/FO), so in reality this wouldn't work and will never happen. But I like the concept. Big yes on the FO being more forthcoming about what they're trying to do. I think a big part of Bloom's/the FO's problem is nobody has cogently explained what they're trying to do. I mean, I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless. What business in the world doesn't want to do well now and, oh by the way, in the future too? My hope is that Bloom wants to develop stars and sign them to long-term contracts early in their cost-controlled years. That way, he could have a stallion of young studs who are the best players on the team, each making ~$15M in AAV until their early 30s. That would give them the flexibility to make mid-range signings like Story, Yoshida and Jansen without bloating the payroll like D-Dom did and putting themselves in a position where it takes several years to dig out. I'd like that strategy and would like to know whether that's what he's doing. Because since the end of the 2021 ALCS, I haven't been able to figure out what the hell the plan is or if there even is one. I always seem to be the only one who thinks this, but I don't think there's any mystery to their motivations at all. I think I can give an explanation with pretty high confidence as to why they made, or failed to make, any particular move, just based on what they said publicly about it, plus what we know about how they tend to evaluate talent. (The one exception here is their failure to get a starting RFer for 2022, but even there their plan made decent sense if only Kiké had stayed healthy.)
Like for instance, you said "I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless." Well what it means is that they're not going to sign to Bogaerts to 11/280 because that would hamstring them for a solid half decade down the road. And it also means that they weren't going to punt on 2022 when they still had a non-negligible chance to make the playoffs.
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Post by bcsox on Dec 27, 2022 23:27:06 GMT -5
I saw someone in this thread State “how are they going to spend right up into the luxury tax now?
They shouldn’t. Don’t spend money just to spend money. Will they take heat by dropping their payroll be about 25 mill or so from last season to this one? Yes, but they are taking a ton of heat now and it doesn’t seem to bother them.
Give yourself plenty of room to operate during the year. If you need to eat a bad contract midseason to get the player you want, then you have room.
Stay flexible.
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 27, 2022 23:43:49 GMT -5
Big yes on the FO being more forthcoming about what they're trying to do. I think a big part of Bloom's/the FO's problem is nobody has cogently explained what they're trying to do. I mean, I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless. What business in the world doesn't want to do well now and, oh by the way, in the future too? My hope is that Bloom wants to develop stars and sign them to long-term contracts early in their cost-controlled years. That way, he could have a stallion of young studs who are the best players on the team, each making ~$15M in AAV until their early 30s. That would give them the flexibility to make mid-range signings like Story, Yoshida and Jansen without bloating the payroll like D-Dom did and putting themselves in a position where it takes several years to dig out. I'd like that strategy and would like to know whether that's what he's doing. Because since the end of the 2021 ALCS, I haven't been able to figure out what the hell the plan is or if there even is one. I always seem to be the only one who thinks this, but I don't think there's any mystery to their motivations at all. I think I can give an explanation with pretty high confidence as to why they made, or failed to make, any particular move, just based on what they said publicly about it, plus what we know about how they tend to evaluate talent. (The one exception here is their failure to get a starting RFer for 2022, but even there their plan made decent sense if only Kiké had stayed healthy.)
Like for instance, you said "I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless." Well what it means is that they're not going to sign to Bogaerts to 11/280 because that would hamstring them for a solid half decade down the road. And it also means that they weren't going to punt on 2022 when they still had a non-negligible chance to make the playoffs.
But at what point do you yourself look at the 2 last place finishes with us predicted for a 3rd here and say damn their moves, operation, and plan are not at all working? To be more concise when are we supposed to look at it as a failed regime / operation?
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Post by incandenza on Dec 28, 2022 0:07:08 GMT -5
I always seem to be the only one who thinks this, but I don't think there's any mystery to their motivations at all. I think I can give an explanation with pretty high confidence as to why they made, or failed to make, any particular move, just based on what they said publicly about it, plus what we know about how they tend to evaluate talent. (The one exception here is their failure to get a starting RFer for 2022, but even there their plan made decent sense if only Kiké had stayed healthy.)
Like for instance, you said "I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless." Well what it means is that they're not going to sign to Bogaerts to 11/280 because that would hamstring them for a solid half decade down the road. And it also means that they weren't going to punt on 2022 when they still had a non-negligible chance to make the playoffs.
But at what point do you yourself look at the 2 last place finishes with us predicted for a 3rd here and say damn their moves, operation, and plan are not at all working? To be more concise when are we supposed to look at it as a failed regime / operation? I dunno, but I'm sure not gonna preemptively count 2023 as a failure because "us predicted for a 3rd [last place finish] here."
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 28, 2022 8:28:15 GMT -5
Big yes on the FO being more forthcoming about what they're trying to do. I think a big part of Bloom's/the FO's problem is nobody has cogently explained what they're trying to do. I mean, I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless. What business in the world doesn't want to do well now and, oh by the way, in the future too? My hope is that Bloom wants to develop stars and sign them to long-term contracts early in their cost-controlled years. That way, he could have a stallion of young studs who are the best players on the team, each making ~$15M in AAV until their early 30s. That would give them the flexibility to make mid-range signings like Story, Yoshida and Jansen without bloating the payroll like D-Dom did and putting themselves in a position where it takes several years to dig out. I'd like that strategy and would like to know whether that's what he's doing. Because since the end of the 2021 ALCS, I haven't been able to figure out what the hell the plan is or if there even is one. I always seem to be the only one who thinks this, but I don't think there's any mystery to their motivations at all. I think I can give an explanation with pretty high confidence as to why they made, or failed to make, any particular move, just based on what they said publicly about it, plus what we know about how they tend to evaluate talent. (The one exception here is their failure to get a starting RFer for 2022, but even there their plan made decent sense if only Kiké had stayed healthy.)
Like for instance, you said "I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless." Well what it means is that they're not going to sign to Bogaerts to 11/280 because that would hamstring them for a solid half decade down the road. And it also means that they weren't going to punt on 2022 when they still had a non-negligible chance to make the playoffs.
For a team that wants to build a great system and have sustainable success, not getting under the tax last year is a borderline fireable offense. It’s costing them big time in the draft. Instead of having picks 70 and 71 in the draft they now have 133 and 134. Not only is this a big different in talent level it’s also over $1m in signing bonus money. There’s no excuse for that. They decided to trade their starting catcher but still wouldn’t dumb a few million dollars to get under the luxury tax to give themselves a safety net for this offseason. Total clown show.
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 28, 2022 9:27:39 GMT -5
But at what point do you yourself look at the 2 last place finishes with us predicted for a 3rd here and say damn their moves, operation, and plan are not at all working? To be more concise when are we supposed to look at it as a failed regime / operation? I dunno, but I'm sure not gonna preemptively count 2023 as a failure because "us predicted for a 3rd [last place finish] here."
Either am I but that is the reality of what the odds are now before the 2023 season. The answer of “I dunno” doesn’t give me promise that you want to have a debate about this regime. For instance for me bloom became an apparent problem and not the right man for the job after last offseason. I won’t rehash his poor moves, but since November of 2021 he has been on a downward spiral of bad and incoherent moves, in my opinion. Okay the rest of this post is not a direct response to you My problem is nothing seems coherent or part of a bigger plan from this regime. People defend not selling at the deadline last year because they could have made the playoffs, but then don’t explain why Bloom didn’t address the bullpen, because the one we had was not going to take us to the playoffs. We sign Story but then don’t want to offer bogaerts a similar but slightly larger deal? Instead we offer a slap in the face? We will sign Jansen and Yoshida for a combined 34 million per year, two players that in a perfect world may combine for 4 WAR next season, but we seemingly don’t want to pay Devers who just turned 26, a 9 year extension worth 34 million a year that loose reports suggest he would take. A player who is a solid bet for a 4.5+ WAR for the foreseeable future. If we let Devers go for comp picks… that is a failure at this point. As it it seems pretty clear the range he is looking from us and Bloom Knows right now if he will offer him that or not. And we can’t say the comp picks are valuable in that situation, but then also say it doesn’t matter much that our comp picks are fairly worse this year because of being over the luxury tax in 2022.
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Post by manfred on Dec 28, 2022 9:49:06 GMT -5
I’m going to assume the Sox sign Kluber.
This team reminds me more and more of the early-90s Sox. Brunansky, Viola, Danny Darwin, Jack Clark. Bello is Aaron Sele. A staff headed by Sale, Paxton, and Kluber is so early-90s. Guys who could have good years (Darwin did at 37!), but are looking back, not forward. Turner is Jack Clark or other… cross your fingers for what’s left in the tank. Obviously Devers is Mo… your one (remaining) superstar who will soon be playing for the Mets.
And the two least likable periods in my fan history. Who to root for in a constant swirl of semi-anonymity or post-stardom decay?
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 28, 2022 10:02:49 GMT -5
I’m going to assume the Sox sign Kluber. This team reminds me more and more of the early-90s Sox. Brunansky, Viola, Danny Darwin, Jack Clark. Bello is Aaron Sele. A staff headed by Sale, Paxton, and Kluber is so early-90s. Guys who could have good years (Darwin did at 37!), but are looking back, not forward. Turner is Jack Clark or other… cross your fingers for what’s left in the tank. Obviously Devers is Mo… your one (remaining) superstar who will soon be playing for the Mets. And the two least likable periods in my fan history. Who to root for in a constant swirl of semi-anonymity or post-stardom decay? Whose Matt Young?
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Post by manfred on Dec 28, 2022 10:09:13 GMT -5
I’m going to assume the Sox sign Kluber. This team reminds me more and more of the early-90s Sox. Brunansky, Viola, Danny Darwin, Jack Clark. Bello is Aaron Sele. A staff headed by Sale, Paxton, and Kluber is so early-90s. Guys who could have good years (Darwin did at 37!), but are looking back, not forward. Turner is Jack Clark or other… cross your fingers for what’s left in the tank. Obviously Devers is Mo… your one (remaining) superstar who will soon be playing for the Mets. And the two least likable periods in my fan history. Who to root for in a constant swirl of semi-anonymity or post-stardom decay? Whose Matt Young? That is a layup… Paxton.
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Post by chr31ter on Dec 28, 2022 10:10:42 GMT -5
I always seem to be the only one who thinks this, but I don't think there's any mystery to their motivations at all. I think I can give an explanation with pretty high confidence as to why they made, or failed to make, any particular move, just based on what they said publicly about it, plus what we know about how they tend to evaluate talent. (The one exception here is their failure to get a starting RFer for 2022, but even there their plan made decent sense if only Kiké had stayed healthy.)
Like for instance, you said "I know they've said they want to compete now and build for the future but that is trite and meaningless." Well what it means is that they're not going to sign to Bogaerts to 11/280 because that would hamstring them for a solid half decade down the road. And it also means that they weren't going to punt on 2022 when they still had a non-negligible chance to make the playoffs.
But at what point do you yourself look at the 2 last place finishes with us predicted for a 3rd here and say damn their moves, operation, and plan are not at all working? To be more concise when are we supposed to look at it as a failed regime / operation? I'd say let's see what things look like approaching the trade deadline this season. If the team stinks and the Bloom acquisitions (...and I include his draft picks in this) aren't performing up to expectations, then I think he's out of a job.
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Post by greenmonster on Dec 28, 2022 10:29:45 GMT -5
I’m going to assume the Sox sign Kluber. This team reminds me more and more of the early-90s Sox. Brunansky, Viola, Danny Darwin, Jack Clark. Bello is Aaron Sele. A staff headed by Sale, Paxton, and Kluber is so early-90s. Guys who could have good years (Darwin did at 37!), but are looking back, not forward. Turner is Jack Clark or other… cross your fingers for what’s left in the tank. Obviously Devers is Mo… your one (remaining) superstar who will soon be playing for the Mets. And the two least likable periods in my fan history. Who to root for in a constant swirl of semi-anonymity or post-stardom decay? Whose Matt Young? Matt Young threw a no-hitter and still found a way to lose.
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Post by briam on Dec 28, 2022 10:51:49 GMT -5
The way they’re speaking about their plans for the rotation emphasizes the “I have no idea what their plan is” narrative. It REALLY seems like they just completely whiffed on reading the market and have officially gotten caught in the middle.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 28, 2022 10:53:06 GMT -5
I wonder if the strategy is driven by “sign/trade players that the spreadsheets say are net value positive.” That would explain the perceived randomness (or, on the flip side, creativity) and lack of sentimentality of recent moves and non-moves. There’s a certain admirable discipline in that kind of approach, and as a spreadsheets guy, it obviously has a certain appeal to me. But man, it puts a lot of pressure on getting the spreadsheets right. Well, as a fan who watches and listens and has a good feel for the game from decades of doing such - and one who is neither an advanced stat or spreadsheet guy- my heart tells me that this FO is just getting fleeced, and it pretty much sucks. Lots of the last two years have simply been an embarrassment. Perhaps we chip in and buy this book for the Sox front office, reviewed today in The Wall Street Journal. It's a book on mathematical modeling from a mathematical modeler that, at least from this review, seems to have the thesis of "don't trust the models." The author cut her teeth modeling weather and climate and was taken by how often the models were completely wrong. The reviewer spends a lot of time discussing epidemiology and pharmaceutical modeling (his field) and the pros and cons of modeling there. But both seem to agree the perfectly curated world of modeling is not the real world. This leaves me (still) wondering if Bloom's/Ownership's and the Front Office's models and spreadsheets accounted for - or adjusted for in real-time - the massive shift in the free agent market that occurred in front of their eyes? Or as the reviewer says: "But it’s up to us to learn from models without being drawn in by their seductive elegance, and to ensure that the lessons from Model Land find substantive expression where it actually matters: in our messy, material, magnificent world." Full article here (subscription required). Looking forward to reading the book: www.wsj.com/articles/escape-from-model-land-review-seduced-by-numbers-11672182577
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 28, 2022 11:08:39 GMT -5
The way they’re speaking about their plans for the rotation emphasizes the “I have no idea what their plan is” narrative. It REALLY seems like they just completely whiffed on reading the market and have officially gotten caught in the middle. I've been told that Chaim has a plan and did last year, too! This would fly in the face of that logic. I can't believe that this isn't going exactly according to plan! In Bloom, we trust. Infact, I can't wait to see what kind of fun they have planned for the fanbase today!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 28, 2022 11:16:57 GMT -5
I think Bloom’s days are numbered at this point. Not really any time left to right the ship.
Losing Bogaerts and Eovaldi for fourth round picks is inexcusable. There were multiple teams that wanted Eovaldi at the trade deadline and Bloom lost him for almost nothing.
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Post by briam on Dec 28, 2022 11:27:33 GMT -5
Also, I think we should keep this off-season in mind the next time we are hanging our hopes on “x amount of money to spend this off-season.” There’s just way too many factors that complicate the FA market to make anything a sure thing. It’ll be interesting what the pivot is since the stance (mine included) was let’s wait and see what Bloom does this winter. So far it’s been a dud, and I can’t imagine a FO that’s mantra is “building a consistent winner” is going to cash in some top end prospect capital to make a move big enough to sway the majority’s opinion.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Dec 28, 2022 13:23:07 GMT -5
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Post by keninten on Dec 28, 2022 17:14:39 GMT -5
I`ve come to believe the owners are interfering too much. This reminds me of restaurants I have run and a new owner comes in with no experience and starts telling everyone how to do things. No one can figure out what they are doing. They did this with Theo and seemed to with Cherington. Duquette seemed to run things the way he wanted and when they didn`t like it let him go. Now they hire another young guy and may be doing the same to him. It`s really the lack of direction that makes me think this way.
If it is Bloom he could become the Bobby Valentine of GM`s.
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 28, 2022 20:10:12 GMT -5
I`ve come to believe the owners are interfering too much. This reminds me of restaurants I have run and a new owner comes in with no experience and starts telling everyone how to do things. No one can figure out what they are doing. They did this with Theo and seemed to with Cherington. Duquette seemed to run things the way he wanted and when they didn`t like it let him go. Now they hire another young guy and may be doing the same to him. It`s really the lack of direction that makes me think this way. If it is Bloom he could become the Bobby Valentine of GM`s. The moves made make me think the owners are not all that involved Yoshida for 18 million per year over 5 years for someone who has not played is not an ownership move. In fact more money was spent on Yoshida than the Sandoval contract. Jansen at 2 years 16 per is the very opposite of what I think and ownership move would be.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Dec 28, 2022 21:00:44 GMT -5
I`ve come to believe the owners are interfering too much. This reminds me of restaurants I have run and a new owner comes in with no experience and starts telling everyone how to do things. No one can figure out what they are doing. They did this with Theo and seemed to with Cherington. Duquette seemed to run things the way he wanted and when they didn`t like it let him go. Now they hire another young guy and may be doing the same to him. It`s really the lack of direction that makes me think this way. If it is Bloom he could become the Bobby Valentine of GM`s. this is kind of where my thoughts go to at times. without getting too deep into it, i really wonder if they are doing him right.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Dec 28, 2022 21:07:42 GMT -5
I`ve come to believe the owners are interfering too much. This reminds me of restaurants I have run and a new owner comes in with no experience and starts telling everyone how to do things. No one can figure out what they are doing. They did this with Theo and seemed to with Cherington. Duquette seemed to run things the way he wanted and when they didn`t like it let him go. Now they hire another young guy and may be doing the same to him. It`s really the lack of direction that makes me think this way. If it is Bloom he could become the Bobby Valentine of GM`s. The moves made make me think the owners are not all that involved Yoshida for 18 million per year over 5 years for someone who has not played is not an ownership move. In fact more money was spent on Yoshida than the Sandoval contract. Jansen at 2 years 16 per is the very opposite of what I think and ownership move would be. i think the larger point, which you might want to consider, is the complete adherence to no long term, high AAV FA contracts. I don't think there are many large market GM's who wouldn't want to at least have that option in their back pocket. It doesn't appear the Sox are going to do that, and that MO really does precede the Bloom tenure.
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 29, 2022 9:57:53 GMT -5
There is for sure an alternate universe where we have Betts and Devers signed for the next decade.
Itâs a fun game of a would you rather hypothetical.
Letâs say 10 years $325 million got it done in 2019 for Betts⦠I think that could have gotten it done.
Then letâs say a 9 year deal worth $300 million gets it done now for Devers
Our current luxury tax payroll is about $211 million (that includes a projected $17 million for Devers arb, if I am seeing that right)
So the opportunity cost would be no Yoshida or Story. So letâs do some math. For our payroll.
211-18 (Yoshida) - 23 (Story) brings use down to. $170 million. + 32 (Betts) and + 16 (for Devers increase over his arb number) equals a payroll tax of $219 million. This number for luxury tax is probably a bit lower since it would average against the last of arb.
Even in 2019 I always thought bogaerts would be the sacrifice and the one necessary to let go. Basically the above would cost us story, Yoshida, some near term financial flexibility, and about 5 more years of long term financial flexibility.
So say we sign iglesias for 1 year 6 million, total luxury tax payroll is $225 million ($8 million under).
Verdugo LF Betts RF Devers 3B Casas 1B Turner DH Kiké CF Iglesias SS Wong/McGuire C Arroyo 2B
All pitching the same as we have now.
I know the post is meaningless and a complete hypothetical. I just donât understand Bloom because his plug and play type style with prospects coming up and short term Value FA deals makes way more sense when you have 2 cornerstone guys locked up for the next decade.
If he or our FO truly learned their lesson from Betts Devers would have had a juicy but lower than it will take now extension by July of the 2021 season.
If they want to sell at all that they care at all about winning and not just the bottom line, they have to sign Devers.
This is Boston, we donât care won the league in least money spend per win, we care about winning the league. Thatâs the whole purpose of playing / watching
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Post by manfred on Dec 29, 2022 10:26:51 GMT -5
There is for sure an alternate universe where we have Betts and Devers signed for the next decade. Itâs a fun game of a would you rather hypothetical. Letâs say 10 years $325 million got it done in 2019 for Betts⦠I think that could have gotten it done. Then letâs say a 9 year deal worth $300 million gets it done now for Devers Our current luxury tax payroll is about $211 million (that includes a projected $17 million for Devers arb, if I am seeing that right) So the opportunity cost would be no Yoshida or Story. So letâs do some math. For our payroll. 211-18 (Yoshida) - 23 (Story) brings use down to. $170 million. + 32 (Betts) and + 16 (for Devers increase over his arb number) equals a payroll tax of $219 million. This number for luxury tax is probably a bit lower since it would average against the last of arb. Even in 2019 I always thought bogaerts would be the sacrifice and the one necessary to let go. Basically the above would cost us story, Yoshida, some near term financial flexibility, and about 5 more years of long term financial flexibility. So say we sign iglesias for 1 year 6 million, total luxury tax payroll is $225 million ($8 million under). Verdugo LF Betts RF Devers 3B Casas 1B Turner DH Kiké CF Iglesias SS Wong/McGuire C Arroyo 2B All pitching the same as we have now. I know the post is meaningless and a complete hypothetical. I just donât understand Bloom because his plug and play type style with prospects coming up and short term Value FA deals makes way more sense when you have 2 cornerstone guys locked up for the next decade. If he or our FO truly learned their lesson from Betts Devers would have had a juicy but lower than it will take now extension by July of the 2021 season. If they want to sell at all that they care at all about winning and not just the bottom line, they have to sign Devers. This is Boston, we donât care won the league in least money spend per win, we care about winning the league. Thatâs the whole purpose of playing / watching No Verdugo or Wong if you sign Betts. Your lineup is wrong.
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Post by pappyman99 on Dec 29, 2022 11:00:18 GMT -5
There is for sure an alternate universe where we have Betts and Devers signed for the next decade. Itâs a fun game of a would you rather hypothetical. Letâs say 10 years $325 million got it done in 2019 for Betts⦠I think that could have gotten it done. Then letâs say a 9 year deal worth $300 million gets it done now for Devers Our current luxury tax payroll is about $211 million (that includes a projected $17 million for Devers arb, if I am seeing that right) So the opportunity cost would be no Yoshida or Story. So letâs do some math. For our payroll. 211-18 (Yoshida) - 23 (Story) brings use down to. $170 million. + 32 (Betts) and + 16 (for Devers increase over his arb number) equals a payroll tax of $219 million. This number for luxury tax is probably a bit lower since it would average against the last of arb. Even in 2019 I always thought bogaerts would be the sacrifice and the one necessary to let go. Basically the above would cost us story, Yoshida, some near term financial flexibility, and about 5 more years of long term financial flexibility. So say we sign iglesias for 1 year 6 million, total luxury tax payroll is $225 million ($8 million under). Verdugo LF Betts RF Devers 3B Casas 1B Turner DH Kiké CF Iglesias SS Wong/McGuire C Arroyo 2B All pitching the same as we have now. I know the post is meaningless and a complete hypothetical. I just donât understand Bloom because his plug and play type style with prospects coming up and short term Value FA deals makes way more sense when you have 2 cornerstone guys locked up for the next decade. If he or our FO truly learned their lesson from Betts Devers would have had a juicy but lower than it will take now extension by July of the 2021 season. If they want to sell at all that they care at all about winning and not just the bottom line, they have to sign Devers. This is Boston, we donât care won the league in least money spend per win, we care about winning the league. Thatâs the whole purpose of playing / watching No Verdugo or Wong if you sign Betts. Your lineup is wrong. Very true I messed up there, but in the end, how difficult would it be to replace those two? Not very, in my opinion
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