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Post by bg23 on Jan 10, 2023 15:32:40 GMT -5
Does anyone here have any medical knowledge that might help us guess the fallout from this? Should we expect this to be a TJ-style surgery where once it's done his elbow will be in good shape and he will likely be able to return to SS? Or is this more a sign that his elbow will be a risk for the forseeable future and SS is likely out of the question? The difference between this surgery and TJ is they repair the UCL with a brace around the ligament to strengthen it, rather than the full reconstruction that is done in TJ i.e. a completely new ligament. The surgery is somewhat new, and there have not been many cases of it in the MLB, but there has still been thousands of these surgeries with high levels of success. Generally, if the UCL is healthy enough that a repair is recommended rather than reconstruction it is good news. In most cases the surgery leads to less pain, more stability, and improved arm strength. That is in no way a given, so the jury will still be out on Story as a shortstop, but I personally feel better about Story the shortstop after the surgery than the version of Story that obviously had an injured elbow.
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Post by iamnotluistiant on Jan 10, 2023 15:33:43 GMT -5
Maybe Bloom will announce that he's firing himself at the 4 pm conference.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2023 15:37:46 GMT -5
Maybe Bloom will announce that he's firing himself at the 4 pm conference. first post.... and joined 6 min ago.. wonder whos puppet account this is lol
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Post by jmei on Jan 10, 2023 15:40:16 GMT -5
Let's move on from the front office trolling. There's a whole separate thread if you want to criticize the front office.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jan 10, 2023 15:42:10 GMT -5
Does anyone here have any medical knowledge that might help us guess the fallout from this? Should we expect this to be a TJ-style surgery where once it's done his elbow will be in good shape and he will likely be able to return to SS? Or is this more a sign that his elbow will be a risk for the forseeable future and SS is likely out of the question? The difference between this surgery and TJ is they repair the UCL with a brace around the ligament to strengthen it, rather than the full reconstruction that is done in TJ i.e. a completely new ligament. The surgery is somewhat new, and there have not been many cases of it in the MLB, but there has still been thousands of these surgeries with high levels of success. Generally, if the UCL is healthy enough that a repair is recommended rather than reconstruction it is good news. In most cases the surgery leads to less pain, more stability, and improved arm strength. That is in no way a given, so the jury will still be out on Story as a shortstop, but I personally feel better about Story the shortstop after the surgery than the version of Story that obviously had an injured elbow. I'm going to take this silver lining and run with it: In mid-May they get healthy Trevor Story with short stop arm strength and he actually ends up more valuable because of this. Although even that best case scenario wouldn't change that it would have been nice to do this in November.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jan 10, 2023 15:43:56 GMT -5
Although this is not ideal, it’s not the end of the world either. 4-6 month timetable puts him back on the field around June or July. Hopefully his elbow is completely healed and that’s one less thing we have to worry about. Maybe we can get a Joey wendle to platoon with arroyo or a Taylor walls from the rays.
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Post by buffs4444 on Jan 10, 2023 15:44:12 GMT -5
“This is a g—— Greek tragedy” —Rockhound, “ARMAGEDDON”
That is all…. smh
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Post by incandenza on Jan 10, 2023 15:45:52 GMT -5
So now Sox don't have a starting shortstop or second baseman. Help me again, what was The Plan™? Guidas, I have completely lost track of what the meaning of this schtick is even supposed to be. What they've done this offseason is extend Devers, spend a bunch to beef up the bullpen, add Yoshida as a high-OBP outfielder, add to the starting pitching depth, and presumably add another middle infielder through trade or free agency. Agree with these moves or not (I personally have mixed feelings), it's pretty straightforward what they've sought to do. Are you really confused about it at this point?
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Post by cardsox1 on Jan 10, 2023 15:46:05 GMT -5
Bobby D to second base Aroyo to ss
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jan 10, 2023 15:47:26 GMT -5
I would say there's a solid chance that Story's replacement is internal if the deals aren't to Blooms liking. Remember, they sacrificed RF and 1st base for months. Sucks for Story, but it seems like as long as they can endure the injury issue and stay afloat that he'll be back by the ASB worst case scenario.
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Post by cdj on Jan 10, 2023 15:48:15 GMT -5
he’s probably going to be back in May/June, it ain’t that big of a deal. What I’m most upset about is that he can’t have a normal off-season.
Still plenty of time to work a trade. Only 3 full months or so.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 10, 2023 15:48:44 GMT -5
tough deal, feel awful for him. Really hurts the team as well. Daggum !!
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Post by manfred on Jan 10, 2023 15:48:46 GMT -5
I wonder if post-Correa Story’s contract would look different. Were there any clauses about his elbow?
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Post by cdj on Jan 10, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5
The difference between this surgery and TJ is they repair the UCL with a brace around the ligament to strengthen it, rather than the full reconstruction that is done in TJ i.e. a completely new ligament. The surgery is somewhat new, and there have not been many cases of it in the MLB, but there has still been thousands of these surgeries with high levels of success. Generally, if the UCL is healthy enough that a repair is recommended rather than reconstruction it is good news. In most cases the surgery leads to less pain, more stability, and improved arm strength. That is in no way a given, so the jury will still be out on Story as a shortstop, but I personally feel better about Story the shortstop after the surgery than the version of Story that obviously had an injured elbow. I'm going to take this silver lining and run with it: In mid-May they get healthy Trevor Story with short stop arm strength and he actually ends up more valuable because of this. Although even that best case scenario wouldn't change that it would have been nice to do this in November. I like this spin zone the best and I’ll go with it too. Glass half full baby Other silver lining is that he’s not a pitcher going through this, his bat shouldn’t be at much risk of decline once he recovers
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Post by runner on Jan 10, 2023 15:52:39 GMT -5
he’s probably going to be back in May/June, it ain’t that big of a deal. What I’m most upset about is that he can’t have a normal off-season. Still plenty of time to work a trade. Only 3 full months or so. That's if the surgery works. Which it might not, considering this is the first case of this surgery happening in MLB.
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Post by cdj on Jan 10, 2023 15:53:30 GMT -5
he’s probably going to be back in May/June, it ain’t that big of a deal. What I’m most upset about is that he can’t have a normal off-season. Still plenty of time to work a trade. Only 3 full months or so. That's if the surgery works. Which it might not, considering this is the first case of this surgery happening in MLB. True, but I’d be a lot more concerned if he was a pitcher
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Post by manfred on Jan 10, 2023 15:55:32 GMT -5
That's if the surgery works. Which it might not, considering this is the first case of this surgery happening in MLB. True, but I’d be a lot more concerned if he was a pitcher Sure, but SS is not a great position to have arm troubles. I’m betting he is now back to 2b for good. (Which is actually fine, anyway).
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Post by runner on Jan 10, 2023 15:56:36 GMT -5
That's if the surgery works. Which it might not, considering this is the first case of this surgery happening in MLB. True, but I’d be a lot more concerned if he was a pitcher I just hope it isn't like a PRP injection, where if it fails, he needs a new ligament anyways. More waisted time.
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Post by manfred on Jan 10, 2023 15:57:48 GMT -5
he’s probably going to be back in May/June, it ain’t that big of a deal. What I’m most upset about is that he can’t have a normal off-season. Still plenty of time to work a trade. Only 3 full months or so. That's if the surgery works. Which it might not, considering this is the first case of this surgery happening in MLB. It isn’t the first. Eli White had it (I’m assuming this is why the Rangers’ doctor is performing it on Story) and Sean Doolittle. Add: according to Bradford, Rich Hill had it, too.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 10, 2023 15:58:07 GMT -5
Expedite the Mayer rocket launch. Arrival at Fenway June 2023.
edit. WTF is wrong with me ? misspelled our top prospects name, big demerit.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jan 10, 2023 15:59:21 GMT -5
Expedite the Meyer rocket launch. Arrival at Fenway June 2023. F it let’s get yorke at second and mayer at ss IN SPRING TRAINING YOLO!!! (Totally kidding)
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 10, 2023 16:00:27 GMT -5
......but they have a 28.6428% chance of making the playoffs
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Post by seamus on Jan 10, 2023 16:00:33 GMT -5
For those saying Story should have just had surgery when the season ended, I never begrudge players or teams for putting off major procedures if there's another viable option. Even routine surgery can be dangerous (e.g., staph infections), and plenty of hospitals have been delaying non-emergency surgeries due to shortages and the need to triage with RSV/other surges over the last few months (and few healthcare settings have really had a break over the last 3 years anyway). It's definitely a disappointing development, but maybe it will prompt the team to make an aggressive move on the trade market.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 10, 2023 16:00:56 GMT -5
And I got lambasted for calling Story an injury risk when they signed him. Awesome news. Bloom strikes again!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 10, 2023 16:06:04 GMT -5
yeah...i am not going doom and gloom because of this. other teams will have injuries. Just need others to pick up the slack.
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