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Trevor Story Undergoes Internal Brace Procedure
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2023 16:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Jan 10, 2023 16:09:37 GMT -5
For those saying Story should have just had surgery when the season ended, I never begrudge players or teams for putting off major procedures if there's another viable option. Even routine surgery can be dangerous (e.g., staph infections), and plenty of hospitals have been delaying non-emergency surgeries due to shortages and the need to triage with RSV/other surges over the last few months (and few healthcare settings have really had a break over the last 3 years anyway). It's definitely a disappointing development, but maybe it will prompt the team to make an aggressive move on the trade market.One thing about this situation is it's awkwardness for roster building. Do you really reshape the team to cover what you think/hope is just a two-month gap? Probably you just try to grit it out. Which maybe they can do with, say, Andrus/Arroyo/Valdez. But then the lineup for the first third (half?) of the season is:
Yoshida Turner Devers Kiké Casas Andrus Verdugo Arroyo McWong
...which starts out shaky, especially in the power department, and gets worse from there once one of those guys goes down.
ADD: Not banking on him being back AT ALL this season, Chaim? Well that solves this problem at least.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 10, 2023 16:10:12 GMT -5
Whoops! There is similar age or fragility on the staff. This is the big risk this year, and why predicting wins is impossible. We did have this player named Xander.. ??
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Post by chr31ter on Jan 10, 2023 16:10:31 GMT -5
Yikes.
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Post by levi on Jan 10, 2023 16:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Jan 10, 2023 16:16:08 GMT -5
For those saying Story should have just had surgery when the season ended, I never begrudge players or teams for putting off major procedures if there's another viable option. Even routine surgery can be dangerous (e.g., staph infections), and plenty of hospitals have been delaying non-emergency surgeries due to shortages and the need to triage with RSV/other surges over the last few months (and few healthcare settings have really had a break over the last 3 years anyway). It's definitely a disappointing development, but maybe it will prompt the team to make an aggressive move on the trade market. Merloni was also saying this timeline makes perfect sense. You're not throwing a ball in October, November, or December. Then after throwing a coupoe weks and getting the arm ramped up you're elbow starts barking and you get it checked out. Very common in terms of timing.
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Post by shagworthy on Jan 10, 2023 16:16:22 GMT -5
rutt-ro. An already anemic offense was diagnosed with a blood-clotting disorder.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 10, 2023 16:17:36 GMT -5
Is there video of this? I'd like to see Chaim talking like Story might miss the entire season for myself. Don't see anywhere indicating that this is a 10 month surgery
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Jan 10, 2023 16:22:56 GMT -5
The language there just sounds like hedging to me. He knows he needs to be careful with what he says. He knows all eyes are on him, given the way the offseason has unfolded. Might not want to add to the narrative that he’s out of touch or whatever you want to call it, if he incorrectly predicts Story is back.
For what it’s worth, I think Story will be back by the summer but you never know.
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Post by seamus on Jan 10, 2023 16:24:03 GMT -5
Bloom might just be taking a conservative approach. If he says, "We're hoping he's back in 4 months" and it ends up being a totally normal 6 months, people will freak out. Much better to start it as, "We'll see" and then turn it into, "He'll be back by the end of June" once he's actually well into the recovery phase.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 10, 2023 16:27:13 GMT -5
well, that puts a weird twist on this. No intent, of course, but bad planning is in play.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 10, 2023 16:29:48 GMT -5
well, that puts a weird twist on this. No intent, of course, but bad planning is in play. So, everyone's theory he was just signed to replace Xander for cheaper basically came to fruition and so far its already blown up on them.
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Post by jkfer98 on Jan 10, 2023 16:30:00 GMT -5
Money question: So presumably, Story will be put on the 60 day DL, taking him off the 40 man. If he misses half the season, will the Sox now have $10 million more to spend under the CBT?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 10, 2023 16:30:03 GMT -5
The language there just sounds like hedging to me. He knows he needs to be careful with what he says. He knows all eyes are on him, given the way the offseason has unfolded. Might not want to add to the narrative that he’s out of touch or whatever you want to call it, if he incorrectly predicts Story is back. For what it’s worth, I think Story will be back by the summer but you never know. i think is a long shot, with respect. It is an elbow, which of greater concern to begin with. Also, he is the 2nd year of 6 year deal, they may take a long term asset view. I think a lot of rope is going to be given here to get him back
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jan 10, 2023 16:34:02 GMT -5
Jeez. I am generally optimistic about every Sox team as the calendar turns to February. This is really bad news. Total gut punch. Let’s hope this completely fixes his arm and he’s fully viable at SS until the Mayer era begins.
Duuudes, I am bummed.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 10, 2023 16:36:55 GMT -5
I wouldnt count on Story either being back or being his hself if he did come back this season.
This is an injury they really couldnt afford.
It really sucks when your healthiest middle infielder is Christian Arroyo who is as injury prone as a player can get.
Now they're kind of screwed.
They lack power to begin with, particularly from the right side.
So now they try to make due at 2b with Arroyo until he gets hurt, hopefully not before the season begins. I think Valdez can help, but he was better as a 2nd half option. Now he might need to be rushed along.
Or they can rush Rafaela along, although it would be detrimental to his development, and put him in CF and move Hernandez, coming off his issues himself, to SS.
I can't see them moving Hernandez over to play Duran in CF, flanked by Yoshida and Verdugo. That would be frightening.
I think they now have to sign one or both of Andrus and Iglesias. Otherwise they'll probably try to get Wendell and/or Rojas in a deal.
The options are really terrible. The mistake in not extending Bogaerts last year is already compounding as the Sox will likely have among the worst middle infield combo in baseball.
Yeesh. Not good.
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Post by Guidas on Jan 10, 2023 16:56:53 GMT -5
So now Sox don't have a starting shortstop or second baseman. Help me again, what was The Plan™? Guidas, I have completely lost track of what the meaning of this schtick is even supposed to be. What they've done this offseason is extend Devers, spend a bunch to beef up the bullpen, add Yoshida as a high-OBP outfielder, add to the starting pitching depth, and presumably add another middle infielder through trade or free agency. Agree with these moves or not (I personally have mixed feelings), it's pretty straightforward what they've sought to do. Are you really confused about it at this point? I am. I don't see a logical progression. I heard a lot about "Wait til you guys see what Chaim does with all this money!" What I've seen so far is yes - an improved pen - but from there it's a lot of plan Bs and Cs and Ds, a lot of hoping players W, X, and Sale can stay healthy, and ownership stepping in to sign Devers (which I love but it doesn't improve the team, just keeps it from degrading more). Sure, Yoshida could be a stud, or he could be a #4 OF. Sure, two back-up catchers could some how play like one good catcher. Sure, a SS could emerge from current 40 man (but then you need a CF) or a trade that's better than replacement level. But even before they lost Story - who had well-documented arm problems - this looked like a 4th place in the AL East team team that needs everything to break right to get one of the WC bids. Bloom and his supporters here seem confident, so I'm holding final judgement until the season is done, but if that's the plan, combined with "Just wait when two or three of our prospects come up and excel at above MLB average level sometime in the next 2-3 years!" then Bloom is no better than 15 or so other GMs in the game. Why pay top dollar for that kind of leadership on a high-revenue team?
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Post by terriblehondo on Jan 10, 2023 17:33:07 GMT -5
Losing Story is huge. Raffy is not going to have any protection in this lineup. Defensively up the middle is really worrying. I guess the team narrative about being totally good with Story playing short is out the door now.
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Post by runner on Jan 10, 2023 19:49:41 GMT -5
He might be done for 2023.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2023 19:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by Alonzo on Jan 10, 2023 19:56:29 GMT -5
......but they have a 28.6428% chance of making the playoffs I seriously underestimated the odds of the event that the planes of the Yankees, Rays, Jays and O's all crash within one season.
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Post by Canseco on Jan 10, 2023 19:57:31 GMT -5
This is probably a foolish question, but if the Sox are in contention in September, might we hope for Story as an option at DH?
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Post by scottysmalls on Jan 10, 2023 20:00:50 GMT -5
I wonder if post-Correa Story’s contract would look different. Were there any clauses about his elbow? Based on how this off-season went if Story was an FA now instead and had this elbow issue it probably would have looked like 6/163 + conditional 4 years of options for another $70m if he's healthy at the end of those 6 years.
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Post by runner on Jan 10, 2023 20:07:36 GMT -5
If you need a good laugh.😂 I was going for a minute straight.
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 10, 2023 20:10:21 GMT -5
This is probably a foolish question, but if the Sox are in contention in September, might we hope for Story as an option at DH? If the Sox are in contention in September, you would have to assume that Devers, Turner, and Casas have been significant contriubtors up to that point. How would those pieces fit if Story were to slot in at DH?
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