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Post by jmei on Jan 31, 2023 14:25:03 GMT -5
I also think the Marlins (because of where they are in the competitive landscape) are more willing to accept a high-risk/high-reward player, whereas the Red Sox wanted a little more stability.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 31, 2023 14:29:49 GMT -5
Who is the next top 40 prospect to be DFD? I feel like this should become a thread. I did like the return on Barnes, but then yesterday they DFA German? I guess MLB depth is not as important as I thought. Anytime you DFA someone of the 40 man roster, it's automatically taking away from MLB depth, no? German wasn't going to be in Boston to start the year, so it's not like they sent 2 guys out of Boston while only bringing one in Totally agree, Barnes out and Bleier in, and the 40-man stays at 40. Everyone that complained as guys were DFA made me think…. it is not a 50-man roster, and someone needs to go. The Red Sox are balancing the current need for 2023 vs when some of the other lower minor league guys arrive.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 31, 2023 14:52:59 GMT -5
all i know is this.
by the end of the 2022 season, and upon the conclusion of the often walked first batter he faced, i was transformed in Sgt. Elias in Platoon.
BARNES !!! BARNES !! Stop walking guys, you piece of sh*t !!
I won't miss being that guy anymore. LOL.
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Post by cdj on Jan 31, 2023 15:32:02 GMT -5
I will always appreciate Barnes for his sub 1 playoff ERA. Some luck involved there as his walk rate in the playoffs is high but he was effective nonetheless
Thanks for the memories Matt!
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jan 31, 2023 17:16:32 GMT -5
That was the sticky stuff time and he has since proved that it was the answer to his high spin rate. His numbers dropped off significantly since the change.
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Post by mobaz on Jan 31, 2023 17:24:27 GMT -5
That was the sticky stuff time and he has since proved that it was the answer to his high spin rate. His numbers dropped off significantly since the change. Not to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure he was a Bullfrog guy (rather than Spider Tack) and I still think that it's a bridge too far to keep pitchers from having ANYTHING. No one really expected it to go that extreme in the middle of a season.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 31, 2023 22:39:35 GMT -5
I will always appreciate Barnes for his sub 1 playoff ERA. Some luck involved there as his walk rate in the playoffs is high but he was effective nonetheless Thanks for the memories Matt! My feelings exactly. Just as I will always appreciate Kimbrel for his perfect playoff save conversion percentage...
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Post by congusgambler33 on Feb 1, 2023 0:18:53 GMT -5
That was the sticky stuff time and he has since proved that it was the answer to his high spin rate. His numbers dropped off significantly since the change. Not to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure he was a Bullfrog guy (rather than Spider Tack) and I still think that it's a bridge too far to keep pitchers from having ANYTHING. No one really expected it to go that extreme in the middle of a season.
I am with you on timing of the enforcement of the rules, but not surprised in how they hand out punishments nowadays. It has hampered several pitchers carreers.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 1, 2023 15:36:28 GMT -5
Ben Clemens, while not exactly critical of the trade for Boston, is remarkably low on Bleier, calling him "right on the cusp of bullpen playability." This regarding a guy with a 3.06 career ERA.
He makes him out to be completely hopeless against righties but he had a FIP/xFIP of 3.60/4.23 against them last season and 3.90/4.26 for his career. That's pretty similar to Matt Strahm's overall numbers last season; similar to Rich Hill and Michael Wacha, too. And then as Clemens says, Bleier is Carlos Rodon against lefties. Seems better than "cusp of playability" to me.
ADD: Like this is kind of a weird paragraph: In his two worst seasons Giolito had FIPs of 4.94 and 5.56. Late-career Romo had FIPs in the 4.20-4.35 range. Espino's career FIP is 4.89. Archer's been 4.26 or above since 2019. These numbers are all notably larger than 3.90. Whereas active pitchers with career FIPs of 3.90-3.95 include Joe Kelly, Cristian Javier, Dylan Cease, Jack Flaherty, Luis Garcia, Ross Stripling, and Chris Paddack. It's a pretty good group!
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 1, 2023 15:41:44 GMT -5
Ben Clemens, while not exactly critical of the trade for Boston, is remarkably low on Bleier, calling him "right on the cusp of bullpen playability." This regarding a guy with a 3.06 career ERA.
He makes him out to be completely hopeless against righties but he had a FIP/xFIP of 3.60/4.23 against them last season and 3.90/4.26 for his career. That's pretty similar to Matt Strahm's overall numbers last season; similar to Rich Hill and Michael Wacha, too. And then as Clemens says, Bleier is Carlos Rodon against lefties. Seems better than "cusp of playability" to me.
That seems kind of silly, if Bleier is "on the cusp of playability" what does that make Barnes after looking at the batted ball stats someone tossed up in the thread in the last few pages that show Barnes has literally been one of the worst pitchers in baseball for the last few years using those specific metrics?
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Post by seamus on Feb 1, 2023 15:54:43 GMT -5
Ben Clemens, while not exactly critical of the trade for Boston, is remarkably low on Bleier, calling him "right on the cusp of bullpen playability." This regarding a guy with a 3.06 career ERA.
He makes him out to be completely hopeless against righties but he had a FIP/xFIP of 3.60/4.23 against them last season and 3.90/4.26 for his career. That's pretty similar to Matt Strahm's overall numbers last season; similar to Rich Hill and Michael Wacha, too. And then as Clemens says, Bleier is Carlos Rodon against lefties. Seems better than "cusp of playability" to me.
ADD: Like this is kind of a weird paragraph: In his two worst seasons Giolito had FIPs of 4.94 and 5.56. Late-career Romo had FIPs in the 4.20-4.35 range. Espino's career FIP is 4.89. Archer's been 4.26 or above since 2019. These numbers are all notably larger than 3.90. Whereas active pitchers with career FIPs of 3.90-3.95 include Joe Kelly, Cristian Javier, Dylan Cease, Jack Flaherty, Luis Garcia, Ross Stripling, and Chris Paddack. It's a pretty good group!
Yeah, it's a weird take. It's like he went into writing the article thinking that Bleier was unplayably awful against righties and just leaned into it rather than reassessing. The slash line looks terrible, for sure, but Bleier still doesn't walk anybody or give up home runs no matter their handedness.
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Post by bosoxnation on Feb 1, 2023 19:40:15 GMT -5
I'm very bias going to UConn at the same time as Barnes and seeing him a bunch. I'm grateful for what he did for us but I think a change of scenery was needed and we got the lefty we needed so it all worked.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Feb 7, 2023 0:36:14 GMT -5
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