2023 Trade Deadline Thread

Duvall isn't much until he proves otherwise. He had a hot first 8 games, but he's only been a 2+ WAR player twice since 2017. Now, if he hits like he did the first week in April all through June and into July, then, sure, that's a playoff piece. Otherwise, he's meh unless someone needs a body in CF who might be able to run into one.

Turner currently has a .403 SLG and a .340 OBP. Last year's version of JDM (.341/.448) was actually slightly better than that.

If they're purging - and here's hoping they aren't - the pieces of value will probably Paxton if he can stay healthy and Jansen.

The rest of the pick-ups in the lottery ticket bin are meh unless someone gets very hot and sustains it into mid July.

ADDED: Kiké has some value based on his CF and 2nd base flexibility, and playoff record. But, again, you won't get much straight-up for him.

I also wonder how much flexibility Bloom will have to deal.

If the team is just a couple games out of the WC, how much latitude will Henry and Werner give him? In that case he probably needs to hold onto the short timers and deal from the farm to get an impact piece. If he's on the hot seat - and staring at another meh/.500 year around July 30-31 would likely mean it's pretty warm - he's going to want that piece or two to get into contention even more. I don't know if Henry lets him trade from the farm's top 10 prospects (let's say anyone but Mayer) to get, say, a #2 starter from Miami or Keller from Pitts or someone like that, or a controllable SS like Estrada from SF if they fall out of it (who's a capable SS but really a utility guy).

Now, if they can go on a little 8-10 game streak and get solidly into #2 WC team territory, I think Bloom can deal. But on the cusp, it will be very interesting to watch.

No. We need to keep Rafaela. We all hope Duvall is recovered and back to being amazing (for all 8 games). I have strong feelings about all the options, but here's hoping the Sox will be buyers, and that Story returns. Sale, too.

Yeah, I don’t think any youth should be traded unless the team is solidly in the WC standings and can get either Cease or Giolitto. Anyone else is just a big meh.

The problem with trading for guys is you have to outbid teams that are going to value their 2023 contributions a lot more than the Sox

I agree we should avoid acquiring rentals, but I think adding someone who is young, good, and cost-controlled is absolutely something we should be open to.

We’re basically a .500 team right now after tearing it down a couple years ago, I don’t think they’re at the beginning of a rebuild at all and I’d bet my left nut (not righty tho) they don’t trade Yoshida. They’re probably a couple impact guys away from being a legit playoff team, they aren’t THAT far off. This isn’t the 2020 roster or the Oakland A’s


For perspective they were way worse in 2020 than they are now and they were arguably a Laz Diaz away from the World Series the following season

I think the reason there was a quick turnaround in 2021 was because o think the core was better then than it is now. The core of 2018 was still pretty intact minus Price and the outfield, but Verdugo became part of the core. JD Martinez rebounded. Devers, Bogaerts, Vazquez, Eovaldi, Barnes, E-Rod and Sale came back, so that core from 2018 was still there and productive the way it was about 8 years earlier when the 2007 core was still largely intact for 2013 and Cherington actually did a great job filling out the rest of the roster. Bloom did a better job of filling out the 2021 roster with Whitlock his key pickup plus the freebie addition of Schwarber.

I'd say the current core is nowhere near as talented or even stable, but where now is better than then the farm system is getting closer to helping. Other than Bello and maybe Whitlock the rotation features youngsters, although a number of them are probably better off in the pen. Mayer and Yorke and perhaps Meidroth look like they can help soon. Maybe Duran or even Abreu becomes a regular and I hope/think Casas is ready to blossom so they have better future options now than they did in 2020/2021, but again Bloom will have to make sure he fills out the roster well enough.

I said rebuild, not tear it all down or tanking. You have a ton of young guys playing, the future is them getting better and the next wave. Then money coming off for guys like Sale. Yeah looks like the start of a rebuild, where a GM spent money on some veterans trying to speed up the process. Get ride of salary, get more young guys playing time and prepare to be ready for Mayer time. If it works out, you should have the young guys, money and finally also a farm system to support a good size run.

Isn't that the goal?

One reason I keep saying '25, '25, '25 is the core should be solid by then. This is due to my belief that Whitlock, Bello, Houck and Casas will be significant contributors by then. Raffy and Yoshi will be here and I still see Story as a good 2B, which is where he'll be playing then. They'll have to make a decision on Dugo. Other guys, like Wong, Duran, Kutter, Mayer, and fingers crossed on Rafaela and Yorke, won't be star level in 2025 but could all contribute at low cost.

For me there are two questions. One is whether the crop of young players coming up, other than MM, will be enough of a supplement to that core to build a nice run starting in 2025.

The other is whether the FO will make good use of the pile of money they'll have to spend during the '24-'25 off-season. They'll have a pot about the same size as they had last off-season. If they stay a .500 team this year, it'll mean they gained three wins over last year for about $80M in AAV.

Lol no.

Turner, Martin, Duvall, Hernandez, Paxton, Pivetta, and Jansen should all be traded if possible, unless we go on some tear up to the all star break